Talk:Battle of Wadi al-Khaznadar

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Name wrong?[edit]

According scholar sources like Enciclopaedya of Islam, the name is Wadi l-Khaznadar instead Wadi (a)l-Khazandar. Please check it--95.17.88.231 (talk) 15:33, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia[edit]

Is this Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia ? I know that Cilicia, Georgia and Mongols were allied for a while against the Mamelukes.--Eupator 14:55, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not only Cilician Armenia. There were several regiments from Greater Armenia who fought within the Georgian corps. --Kober 04:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns about sources[edit]

Currently the only source on this article is a single eyewitness account from the 13th century. This is effectively a primary source, and we really need more information from secondary sources to confirm the information in this article. --El on ka 17:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. Especially number of force is doubtful. --Enerelt (talk) 08:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Battle of Wadi al-Khaznadar[edit]

I have found no sources that call this battle, Wadi al-Khazandar.

However, I have found sources that call this battle, Wadi al-Khaznadar.

George F. Nafziger; Mark W. Walton, Islam at War: A History, p67.
Nicola Di Cosmo, Warfare in Inner Asian History: 500-1800, p240,243.

Does anyone have anymore sources for either? --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:10, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Timur's army was largely Turkic with significant amount of Mongols and other tribes, and he was a Muslim[edit]

Timur's army was consisted from a mix of tribes, but with the core Turkic warriors. Why you name his army as Mongolic just because he used Mongols and at the same time Boyazeed The Ottoman had a similar structure even with Christian elements, and you do not name his army as Christian? Mamluks were Turkic, Timur's army was Turkic, so "Mongol" is irrelevant here.

mamluk army[edit]

This is a very bad page: Firstly, the Mamluk army was small in size and the Mongol army was twice or triple in number Ibn Kathir mentions that Salar and Baybars "did not complete the number of their soldiers, so the army was greatly shortened, with poor management and other matters." - (Ibn Katheer, 9/14) "The number of the Muslim army was about 20 thousand horsemen, and the army of Ghazan was about 100 thousand." Al-Maqrizi, Al-Suluk, 2/319 Perhaps this is an exaggeration, but it indicates that the Mongol army is larger than the Mamluks Romeo778 (talk) 20:44, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]