Talk:Alexander Goldberg

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Irish or English?[edit]

The article has the basic elements but may need embellishing

I don't think Alex Goldberg is Irish. I think he is English?

He said he was Irish on the Big Questions recently.

""The Irish Jewish community - which I consider myself to be part of incidently - has had mixed fortunes in recent years. There has been a bit of a revival on the back of the Celtic Tiger... let's hope for your baker that this is not reversed." - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jan/19/kosher-food-paris - that's probably ample proof from the Guardian - no? -- Jenny Rubens (talk) 15:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC) has looked into this:[reply]

I have looked into the above claim and he does claim in the comments section that he is Irish - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jan/19/kosher-food-paris . There is also a published letter in the Jerusalem Post claiming to be the grandson of [Gerald Goldberg] which can be seen here (found it through Google search). Finally there are other references on the web to his interview with the Irish Times on January 7th 1998 (which is public source but on the web is behind a paywall) where he speaks of his pride in being Irish and holding an Irish passport


Alex Goldberg (23). Alex is the grandson of solicitor Gerald Goldberg, the former Lord Mayor of Cork. Alex's father, Theodore, moved to England to find work. Although Alex was born in England and now works in London for the European Council of Jewish Communities, he has a strong affinity with Cork and holds an Irish passport: "I identify with the Irish. My family were proud Irish nationalists. My grandfather's older brothers and sisters helped out in the Irish struggle for independence and later they went to help in the Jewish struggle for independence in what was then British Palestine."

He is proud to belong "to the two largest diasporas in the world - the Irish and the Jewish. Wherever I go in the UK or the US, there is a Jewish and an Irish community. They both have suffering behind them: for the Jews it is the Shoah (Holocaust); for the Irish, the Famine. They have a sense of humour which they use to cope with minority situations in the same introspective, self-deprecatory way.''

Jenny Rubens (talk) 15:50, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Length[edit]

This seems a rather long article. Should it be trimmed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.62.50 (talk) 10:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it seems to be longer then Lord Bingham's article who is the most senior judge in the country. Surely it should be edited?(personb (talk) 21:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC))[reply]

He is well known in the Jewish community and article is now trimmed. Rakusens (talk) 22:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)talk[reply]

I don't think he is well known; I had never heard of him before and I read the Jewish Chronicle every week. However, I would rather wikipedia had more articles then too few. Do you think the links should be removed? personb (talk) 22:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This has got even longer! I am going to edit it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.114.139 (talk) 20:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly all of the links on this page did not support the article or were dead links. Please see the previous comments for the need for change to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.21.43 (talk) 16:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The most basic facts on previous drafts were unsourced or wrong. For example the previous first paragraph claimed the subject was Chaplain to the University of Surrey. The university's own website does not describe him as this; it refers to him as a part time, specifically Jewish chaplain. The previous article clearly exaggerates this role. All the previous claims lacked any sourcing as the links did not verify the claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CCroly (talk • contribs) 16:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've reviewed enough of the previous version to agree it was a mess. I'm not sure if everything that was removed should have been removed, but I'm going to accept the pared-back version unless another editor wants to more completely review the previous one. I've made a few stylistic edits to the new version.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:50, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Think too much of this has been removed - it is clear some of the links were dead and CCroly was correct to query them. Think some he took out still had news references so were proper references. Otherwise this article is beginning to look better. Have no time to do anything now... Rakusens (talk) 21:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Think the content on the Surrey Multifaith Centre has been wrong corrected. Surrey University just promoted the Centre recently and still have a fund raising appeal - http://alumni.surrey.ac.uk/netcommunity/page.aspx?pid=1040. There are also other sections of this that have been over edited. James Richards (talk) 20:13, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article reads like it has been written by the subject. The links are often refer to the subjects own words. I have real notability concerns as it stands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.20 (talk) 09:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem strange that JamesRichards edited, then a minute later an ip address in Paris edits (where the subject is located) and then Jenny Rubens edits. It has the hallmarks of one user doing the same edits. In any event, should this article have sources that are the subject's own words? Is that not a self-published source and thus unreliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CCroly (talk • contribs) 22:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Alexander Goldberg/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article lacks picture, some of the references are gone, lacks infobox, lacks persondata, lacks substance, lacks good intro. Clear cut case of start class article, since it has a good basic structure and some references. - Duribald 20:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 20:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Surrey University Multifaith Centre[edit]

This probably belongs in a post of its own. The history of the centre is complex: it was bequested to the university as a place of prayer and reflection in 1980 to be shared by the three Abrahamic faiths. The centre was then due to be knocked down and replaced with a much larger centre paid for by the faith communities. They raised £1m. More recently, the existing centre was gutted, rebuilt in parts and renovated. Subsequently other faith hubs have appeared on campus mirroring the Islamic Prayer Room that was opened a decade ago replacing a much smaller Islamic Prayer Room in Cathedral Court.

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