Talk:2023 UEFA Champions League final

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Stop fake news about Marciniak at political event

Actualy it was business event co-organized by Mentzen, entrepreneur and tax advisor, that is also a leader of libertarian New Hope. Stop spreading fake news — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source when adding such information to the article. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:22, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

i gave a source and it been removed, its looks like on purpose spreading fake news and not willing to write the true. You spread fake news, attack a human and dont provide a context — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 16:18, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Please assume good faith. Nobody is attacking you, in fact, they fixed the issue when removing your redundant sentence. I have fixed it again, please stop adding the sentence, it is unnecessary. Thank you, Zorblin (talk) 17:36, 15 June 2023

come on, it was a motivational speach at business event co-organized by businessman, that happens to also be amateur (out-of-parliement, not making money on politics) politician. If you dont give full context you spread fake news that was political rally and ruin innocent ref reputation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 06:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

UEFA have problem with reffs taking part in poltical event, no different is right, left, green or red. Any mixing popularity of reffs with politics is bad. It was fake news Marciniak took part in political event. He took part in business event organized by businessman. For UEFA it would be no different that he was in his free time marxist or paleolibertarian politician. There is no good politics for UEFA. Good politics is no politics. And so because UEFA react to fake raport/denunciation from Nigdy Więcej and they check that it was business event organized by businessman (that in free time is amateur politician) he stay as reff, is he took part in any political rally he would be changed. Simple like that. It is getting tired, really stop spreading fake news, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 19:38, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

You are the one who keeps re-adding that it was a "political event". The latest version says it was just "an event" organised by a right-wing politician (a fact that is supported by reliable sources). Please don't change it again. – PeeJay 02:03, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Yeah it was just a (business) event what makes no controversies, but CONTROVERSY come from FAKE news claims that it was political event. And read again Mentzen is mostly businessman and from UEFA is no difference is it right or left wing, any politics are bad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Right, but no one is claiming it was a political event except you. The controversy comes from the fact that the event was organised by a prominent right-wing politician. These are facts. – PeeJay 21:51, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

so if he speak at left-wing it would be okay? The controversies come from claims/fake news that it was from "political event" to even "political rally". Then the facts come out that it was a business event organized by businessman (that on his free time is out of parliment, amateur politician). There is no reason if reff would be a part of left or right political agenda, both are bad no matter what politics would he promote. But after UEFA checked that he speak about business/motivation at business event he remain as reff, if he say a word about any left or right politics or any other speaker meantioned a word about politics he would be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 07:06, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if it would be okay for him to attend an event organised by a left-wing politician or not, because that didn't happen. We have to go with what is reported in reliable sources; such sources reported it as controversial that he attended this event, so what more can we do without violating WP:NPOV and WP:OR? Sounds like you're bending over backwards to defend the right wing of politics! – PeeJay 10:12, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

im not defending any politician, first of all the co-organizer of this business conference is mostly a businessman and aside he is out of parliament politician, so he is totally amateur politician. I think this fake news about political rally started at Guardian but in internet you could change 1984 style, but base on it there was written for example here https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/champions-league-final-referee-far-right-rally-szymon-marciniak/rvtenta1ejwgbeihhrc8ysx4 attending any politics right or left is not fine, so after UEFA review it was business event that not a word of politics was spoken Marciniak remain as reff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 11:47, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

What fake news?! The event was organised by Slawomir Mentzen, a prominent supporter of anti-gay, anti-Jew, far-right politics. The nature of the event itself is irrelevant. – PeeJay 12:25, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Fake news about Marciniak participating in political rally. Mentzen is not in parliement, he first of all businessman and again it was businnes conference with what UEFA dont had problem and Marciniak stay. If it was as first fake news and Nigdy Wiecej denunciation say any political event right and left he would be changed. It is simple like that.

And about Mentzen you repeat propaganda against him. Where you took this antigay and Jew? He first of all is businessman and tax advisor, he had Jew and gay client, and second his very small political activity, he is libertarian. The propaganda repeat his cynical political marketing lecture, which isnt his views. Really stop fake news — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 14:48, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

WP:DROPTHESTICK, seems like the only thing you're doing on Wikipedia is continuously arguing here. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

No one said Marciniak participated in any sort of political event... THAT WAS YOU! There is no fake news - Mentzen is a politician (current or former) who has been a member of a party with far-right policies; Mentzen organised an event of a nature that is unstated in the article; Marciniak attended that event; Marciniak attending the event was reported in the media; the event's links to Mentzen resulted in Marciniak being investigated by UEFA; no wrongdoing was found and Marciniak retained his position as referee for the final. All of those things happened, all of those things are true, and we would be doing readers a disservice by not including that information in the article. Like Joseph2302 said, you need to drop the stick and go away. – PeeJay 10:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

first media was claiming that it was political rally, for example Guardian, then they change it. But it still was reprinted for example in link I provide. So there was this fake news, that Marciniak took part in political event. If this fake news didn't happen and didn't get to UEFA no drama will be happening. They defamate innocent man, one of the best reff now. It is also important to bring up that Mentzen is most of all businessman and it was business event and for those reasons Marciniak stay as reff. Its looks like you don't like facts and Hegel style if the facts don't fit your agenda it is worst for facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 17:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2023

Change "costed" to "cost" in the following sentence: "Accessibility tickets for disabled spectators costed €70."

"Costed" would be appropriate if the tickets had been calculated to cost €70, instead they were priced at €70 ("cost"). Stewb179 (talk) 16:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 16:22, 16 June 2023 (UTC)