Talk:2022–23 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Africa Qualifier

Rwanda v Malawi

Can you please list the Malawi par score (138 at 16.5 overs) when rain stopped play? Anthonylopresti1 (talk) 05:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

The DLS par scores aren't usually listen in the match summaries here; those who want to know can calculate from the result (Malawi scored 97 and lost by 41 runs, so the par score was 97+41=138) মাশ্‌ফী※Mashfi (ETP) 12:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Mashfi - Just makes it more obvious though in a similar way to if they were set a revised target under DLS Anthonylopresti1 (talk) 22:08, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

If a revised target is set and then successfully or unsuccessfully chased, we mention what they were chasing. If play is stopped and the result is decided on a par score, we just say by how much a team won/lost - the par is then obvious (there was no "target" if play doesn't resume). Bs1jac (talk) 10:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Teams

Will Zimbabwe participate in regional qualifiers? Xareefwiki (talk) 06:28, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

They'll be in the regional final, for which they qualified directly because of participating in the preceding World Cup. মাশ্‌ফী※Mashfi (ETP) 12:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Points table

What are the criteria for the points table? Currently Kenya and Rwanda are both on 10 points but cricinfo has Rwanda ahead even though Kenya has a better net run rate. Does it go to total matches won before NRR? Anthonylopresti1 (talk) 04:21, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Sorry only just saw this. I thought it was NRR (it usually is), but apparently in ICC events it is number of wins first, then NRR (didn't matter in the end!) Bs1jac (talk) 10:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

NRR

@Mashfi23: Any chance you could have a go at working out the correct NRR for SL and TAN after day one? Cricinfo and Cricclubs are very different, and I got a different number again when calculating it myself! The Sierra Leone inning lasted 11 and a half overs (but was a full 20 overs schedule); Tanzania reached their target in 7.2 overs (of 15 allocated). I assume something alters the equation somehow, but can't figure it out. Bs1jac (talk) 15:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Bs1jac: ESPNcricinfo is obviously incorrect there due to not considering the DLS-adjusted total, so I'm not sure what to compare the calculation I did with (haven't yet checked CricClubs). What did you get, if you don't mind me asking? মাশ্‌ফী※Mashfi (ETP) 15:08, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Mashfi23: Ah yes, I saw Cricinfo had the correct number of overs for each inning (20 and 15), but didn't notice that they still had the original target (despite showing the reduced overs). I am getting (47/7.3333333) - (57/20) = 3.559. Bs1jac (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Cricclubs table shows Sierra Leone scoring 46 from 15. Didn't realise that you took the par score and overs from the already completed innings. Bs1jac (talk) 15:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Bs1jac: I'm getting 3.2 (47*6/45 - 46*6/90). Took 46 as the DLS-adjusted total in 15 overs (90 balls). I see that you used 7.33333, which should be 7.5 if I'm not wrong (Tanzania played 7 and a half overs). মাশ্‌ফী※Mashfi (ETP) 15:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Ah... yes Cricinfo have added a dot ball. My main problem though was I didn't realise you had to use the par score and overs for the first innings, and not the actual score. Bs1jac (talk) 16:24, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Notability of National Team First Matches

Is the playing of a national team's first international match notable enough to warrant a point in the notes section of a match? The description in the template simply says 'Any other notes about the match other than toss and delays in play' , which in my eyes would suggest the inclusion of a line such as 'Saint Helena played their first ever T20I'. Jfews (talk) 17:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes I would think this would be a fairly notable thing. We usually notate when players play their make their International Debut for a type of match, I would imagine Saying "This was Saint Helena's first ever T20I match" is notable. It would need a news article source though. Sputink (talk) 23:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

"Saint Helena played their debut T20I match" would be more encyclopedic. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 01:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

"Saint Helena played their debut T20I match" is much more sensible than listing all 11 players as making their T20I debut like we currently do. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Points Table

Adding the qualification spots to the points table is a necessity to show that those are the spots that will qualify. This is a fairly standard across Wikipedia. Edit: Example shown here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_second_round where the information is already listed despite only two games having been played. Please do not revert it anymore @Pkr206 Basetornado (talk) 12:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, The qualification spots are usually displayed on points Table across ICC events. See 2023 Cricket World Cup, 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup etc. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 06:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Agree with this. Please stop removing it. Jack234567 (talk) 06:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Notability of First win against a Test Side

Just as we have noted that teams or players have had their first match. I believe that it is fair to note that Uganda won their first match against a Test nation. This is a fairly notable event. I have added this to the Uganda game including a source. Basetornado (talk) 13:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)