Bureaucratization may or may not be inevitable, but the ever-increasing annual sum of donations (which has fueled the huge increase in the number of people working directly for the Wikimedia Foundation) means there is plenty of money to fight over (chapters, decentralized, versus Foundation, centralized). Chapters organizing themselves into a group is a way to present a stronger argument for more money to flow to chapters. (Back when fundraising brought in enough for a handful of employees and money to run servers and software, there wasn't anything to argue about, and bureaucratization was impossible.) -- John Broughton(♫♫) 14:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for covering the new models pages on Meta – comments and edits are welcome to them! Just a small correction: these models and the name change for the Chapters Committee have been approved at the last board meeting (in or after the Berlin meeting at the end of March), implementation (and the renaming of Meta pages and links) has been taken a bit longer than expected. For those interested in the topic, this might be an interesting session (I hope) to attend at Wikimania. --Dami (talk) 16:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanks Dami, the line in its current wording refers to the point that the new ChapCom framework has yet to be approved as scheduled in july in accordance with the resolution and not the name(s)/concepts as such as agreed upon in berlin. i fixed the formulation, thanks pointing out the ambiguity, regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 17:35, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the well done and rich coverage of the current state of WCA related activities. However, there seems to be some misunderstanding about my post on the mailing list you refer to. This post is neither an official statement of the German chapter nor my official position as member of the council of the WCA. I am somewhat new to the debate and was trying to start a discussion about positions. This is an ongoing process. Please let me assure you that it is not my intention to roll back the boards financial reforms. Neither do I want to make things complicated. At the moment, I am trying to figure what "common interest of the Chapters", as stated in Art. 1 of the WCA charter, may look like. First and foremost, however, as you suggested, we need to make some efforts to bring the WCA to existence :) --MarkusGlaser (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
