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Archive 1

Welcome!

Welcome to Beyoncé Knowles' WikiProject, created by stealing with guidance from WP:GAGA. There is a bit of work to do to get the project off the ground, so get stuck in! Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

project pages

Would be nice if all could add this to there watchlist.Moxy (talk) 22:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles/Assessment
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles
• Template:WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles
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• Template:Beyoncé Knowles singles
• portal:Beyoncé Knowles
• Book:Beyoncé Knowles

Important note to all editors about GA and FA nominations/reviews

A number of editors including myself have noted a decline in the quality of recent GA nominations relating to Beyoncé articles. Apologies for pissing on your bonfire, but ladies and gentleman GAs are supposed to represent our near-best articles on wikipedia and some of the recent Beyoncé ones have slipped through the net. Sweet Dreams (Beyoncé Knowles song) is the only one from the I Am... era which, in my view, is the standard you should all be striving towards. However there are some bad offenders such as Ego (Beyoncé Knowles song) and Broken-Hearted Girl, which stick out. Amongst the issues, are a number of MOS fails and unsourced unverified claims. Not forgetting to mention the poor quality of prose. Now to curb some of the negatives, its wonderful work that the project is doing... whatever the controversies with Beyoncé she is an important artist in the industry, like her or not, she's made a noticeable contribution to the industry and she is a standard setter. The speed of the progress of the project is excellent but it needs to come back to basics. Lets focus on quality and less haste. Reviews should take around a week if not more to be thorough. In light of the concerns some of the GAs will be taken to GAR... As they are nominated I will add them to this post so that you are all aware of what's happening. I think essentially the issues here are simply a combination of rushing through things and inexperienced reviewers. Note that members of the project should not be reviewing any articles related to Beyoncé even if you have not worked on them... it is a conflict of interest. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 05:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

As the user who started this hoopla, I of course agree with the above statements. Lets hope that the situation is improved, and I don't have to be the fly on your cream always. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

And this discussion and comments are a threshold level of tolerance for crappy reviews all across the music articles, just that the recent activities at Bey's articles are the most distrubing. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Me too. I may be involved in this too. And, I really support the action of taking ones with issues to GAR. Novice7 | Talk 06:16, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the main problem about the state of the Queen B articles is that they have been written hastily and immediately nominated like there will be no more time in the world to edit them. Myself, involved in the SL project wanted to span it over time to make sure everything was right, and next thing I knew it was attempted to be nominated for FAC in a few days after initial expansion. I also was involved a bit in "Diva", but it was nominated before I could continue fixes. But not calling anyone out in particular, or her articles, it seems to be a trend across GANs. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 06:26, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I'm not sure how a few of these got past GA reviewers, but they certainly don't deserve to be of GA status. As Candyo32 said, many of them have sloppily written prose and seem hastily created. --Cprice1000talk2me 15:18, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• I commend efforts being proposed and made here to improve the quality of articles, especially those listed as GAs. However, it is factually incorrect to say that GAs "are supposed to represent our *near best* articles". They are not: according to the GA criteria, "A good article is a *satisfactory* article that has not met the criteria for featured articles. The good article criteria measure *decent* articles". Good articles should be assessed against the GA criteria, not against other articles, which may be of considerably higher quality than required for GA. Thanks. Geometry guy 20:49, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

GA-worthy in current state?

• If I Were a Boy - Agree -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - TBC -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
  • For this one, too many cooks spoiled the broth. Too much of Copy-edits from everyone, and the prose deteriorated again. When I green-lit Jivesh to nominate it, I was happy with the flow nad prose, but alas. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm concerned there's too much meat and not enough bone to support it. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 08:16, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Halo (Beyoncé Knowles song) - Agree , almost FA. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Diva (Beyoncé Knowles song) -  Disagree, issues with the introduction, infobox, referencing. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Ego (Beyoncé Knowles song) -  Disagree, multiple referencing issues, poor quality prose and horrific introduction. fail
• Sweet Dreams (Beyoncé Knowles song) - Agree -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Broken-Hearted Girl -  Disagree, this is amongst the worst of the bunch. The readability is horrific. The introduction does not conform to WP:LEAD and the sentence quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Background and release section, for example, contains tiny sentences and repeats the release history. If there's a lack of information that doesn't justify repetition (WP:INDISCRIMINATE). fail -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
  • e.g. in Background and release section, the recording information is already given in the infobox. And you start sentences with the same phrase three times. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 08:19, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Video Phone (song) - Agree
• Why Don't You Love Me (Beyoncé Knowles song) -  Disagree it reads like a WP:QUOTEFARM. The entire article is almost exactly made up of nothing but quotes. No attempt to paraphrase or bundle/condense things. Background and release section is ridiculously long and unstructured. Amongst other things. fail -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
• Radio (Beyoncé Knowles song) -  Disagree. Multiple issues with the article structure. The article lacks sufficient detail and breadth in coverage. It is also oversectionalised and I've spotted one or two NPOV issues. Additionally it, too, reads like a quote farm. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Overall pass four out of ten. In my opinion three of these articles would fail utterly and completely. Sorry guys and girls. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I hope we can better this articles. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I just looked at Deja Vu article. It has some unsourced statements (or section like credits). Novice7 | Talk 07:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Well the Sasha Fierce things have just come up in the past few weeks. The BDay and Dangerously in Love GA's have gone downhill for a while now. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 07:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

And Irreplaceable is practically at FARC, at least 15 8 dead links. Tbhotch^{™ ©} Happy New Year 07:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

So guys, lets take up one article ata time and better it for trying to retain their status. Which one should we work on first? The FAs? They are my strong point obviously. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:26, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Well, from what I've seen reviews before 2008 were not this thorough and many articles passed. I know this is off-topic, but see Ashlee Simpson discography. So many unsourced additions.. Novice7 | Talk 07:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Might I suggest that the project stops nominating any more Beyoncé articles and focusses on improving the ones already given GA status to prevent them from being delisted. That has to be main priority. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 07:28, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thats a good one Uniquboy, I believe SL is the last nomination atm that we should have. PRs are fine, like "Halo". We have to talk about the NFCC of the images too. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:36, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it would help (since we have some lead issues) to establish basic standards for what makes a good lead section.... e.g. When Love Takes Over, 4 Minutes (Madonna song) and Sweet Dreams (Beyoncé Knowles song) but not Ego (Beyoncé Knowles song) and most certainly not Broken-Hearted Girl. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 08:16, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Broken-Hearted Girl is definitely the worst and needs attention immediately. The prose is terrible and it's so choppy. In fact, most of them are like this. It's actually quite sad that these articles are in this poor condition; Beyoncé deserves better. :) I don't like how Singles Ladies has been ruined by so many copy edits; "too many cooks spoil the broth." Also, I agree with Lil-Unique1, they need to stop nominating articles of inferior quality and then having reviewers see past those problems and promoting them to GA status. I think 4 Minutes should be what they are all based on, since it has one of the best lead sections I've seen. --Cprice1000talk2me 15:18, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

The lead should be reflective of the song. "If I Were a Boy" suits, as it could be comparable to "4 Minutes" or "When Love Takes Over." But songs of smaller stature like "Broken-Hearted Girl", "Ego", "Why Don't You Love Me" should be similar to smaller scaled works like "Lil Freak" and "I Can Transform Ya." Seeing leads that are bigger than sections themselves should set off alarms. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 20:07, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes of course. Apologies I should have pointed that out. The thing with "Broken-Hearted Girl" is the lead is not all-encompassing and is of poor quality prose. That's the trouble. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 20:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Broken-Hearted Girl

I agree that Broken-Hearted Girl is sub-standard. For some reason I felt a bit rushed when I put it together, and have neglected it a bit. However Lil-Unique, can I ask what about its lead is not up-to-scratch? It is a smaller article, as was not released in the US, and had a poor response elsewhere, therefore there are not many sources of info. Consequently, the lead is smaller, as there is less to cover from the body. Also, with the release section, is it not meant to cover the history pretty broadly? I plan to do a good revamp of it, though. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles don't have to have set sections. You give them sections according to the information available. Take Hello Good Morning by Diddy-Dirty Money. It has no information about its background like "BCG" therefore rather than try to fudge a section I've started off with composition. I would recommend you merge the background and composition sections as both are quite small. Folllow this format:

"BCG" is a blah blah blah song, written by XYZ. It is written in the musical key of ... with a chord progression and time signature of abc. It was produced by StarGate, who used a piano-based melody for the base of the production. According to Mr Smith... "it also uses tender strings and hollow drums". Initially it was intended to be released as the sixth single (source), but was eventually released as the seventh (source). Etc.... The lead we can address after the rest of the article is fixed. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 08:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't suppose there is any way at all that [http://www.allgigs.co.uk/view/review/4321/Beyonce_Broken_Hearted_Girl_Single_Review.html is reliable? Shame. it has quite a detailed analysis... Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry but its not reliable. However a quick search of google comes up with the following sources:

• Yahoo Music preview "BHG" on Beyonce Tour DVD
• E! Online review of Music Video.
• Female First review of song.
• BBC Online review of song

Ironic that you've used this source in the composition section but not in the review section. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 09:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Fraser McAlpine's reviews aren't actually reviews. They don't offer any real criticism. He writes in such a sarcastic/joking tone that it is hard to tell when he is being serious and when he isn't. His writing is great for composition, but he doesn't really offer an opinion on the song. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• Pitchfork media info about remix(es).
• Prefix mag info about remix.
• Daily Telegraph "BHG" video.

You've put nothing about the UK release despite the UK being one of the biggest music markets. Did you seriously not search google when expanding this article? It took me less than 5 mins to find these sources. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 08:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Is Female First actually reliable? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:11, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

When it was discussed previously at RSN there have been few objections to it. See the article now... I've re-written the background section for you. Now by trawling through the album's many reviews as well as the sources above I expect you can follow suit fixing the rest of the article's sections including expanding the critical reception. I'm sure you'll agree this is more like it? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 09:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thank you. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so I did already nominate BHG for a GAR. Do you want me not to be bother with it? It just looks like you guys are trying to fix it up. I'm sorry again for passing it wrongfully. I really didn't take notice the standards of her other ones. ℥^nding·start 16:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Your comments at the GAR would be welcome. As I note above (in the same edit as this), articles should be assessed for GA status against the GA criteria, not the perceived quality of other GAs. Of course, all efforts at improving article quality are welcome. Geometry guy 20:49, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Of course each article should be taken on its own merit (different info is available for each) but as I've said in my comments above "BHG" has been rushed. The quality of prose is missing and so is vital information about the single which could have been found by looking at other Beyoncé articles and looking at which sources have been used. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 20:53, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Diva, Ego, Single Ladies, Radio

I have formatted all references on these articles. I have also put the year end and decade end charts for all songs of Beyonce apart from "Get Me Bodied, "Greenlight" and "Ring the Alarm". I have noted that "Irreplaceable" has a dead link from Rolling Stone, which i am not able to replace. I have already formatted all references in "Irreplaceable", replaced redirect links and dead links (except one or two). I will work on "Why Don't You Love Me" very soon. I know the articles has too many quotes. Sorry for that. And when all this is finished, i will open a second PR for "Single Ladies" and upgrade "Check on It" to GA. I have not been here lately because i was in some kind of serious trouble. But now i am here. And i will help to the maximum for my Queen B. Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:38, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Sit down kiddo, its good to have my enthusiastic user back. :) Hope your real life issues never stop you again from editing here. :D I am very happy to see the developements on the GA articles. I personally was taking note of the FA articles of WP:BEY, and felt that all three have deteriorated in terms of prose and content. Esp, both DV and IRR, donot conform to WP:LEAD, have issues of NFCC, and slow poisoning in terms of fancruft. I am taking up the charge to clean the muck and the shit off their faces. Any one has any point? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I have some good news for you. The dead links (There were many) have already been replaced by me. I have formatted all references ++ I added some information to Critical Reception but i could not manage to write a better lead. You are infinite times better than me in these issues. And yes, i am very happy to be back and everything is alright now. I am so happy. I have also added year end charts to ll articles of Beyonce. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I read your comments at Candy's talk page. I did not know about it. Novice7 gave me the link. Thank you for calling me an "enthusiastic" editor. I love Beyonce. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

You are enthusiastic, and that's really good. I felt you were a little gloomy that day and thought the discussion would cheer you up :) Novice7 | Talk 13:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes yeas, we know you love Bee, but another line of "I Love Queen BEEEE" and I will seriously suffer a brain damage, or might even hang myself!! Anybody has anything to say for the FAs? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:04, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Legolas :D Yes, about FAs, they are good, but I really don't see them parring with 4 Minutes or some other recent FAs. For example Irreplacable, Credits (no source), what is MT in certifications (actually I don't know). And, I don't know about this, but, is the screenshot okay? I mean NFCC?? Also, usage of "#", and some unsourced statements. Novice7 | Talk 16:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry Legolas, i will never repeat that sentence, i mean i will try my best because i do not want you to hang yourself as i need your help nearly everyday. On which articles do you want me to work? Something i will love to do is formatting references in all the articles. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:05, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Suga Mama for deletion

The article Suga Mama is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suga Mama (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 02:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Big talks

Weeks ago when i was having some kind of personal problems, i got a message informing that Beyonce articles require immediate attention. I have tried my best to improve "Why Don't You Love Me", "Upgrade U", "Irreplaceable", "Suga Mama", "Ring The Alarm" (which i have not finished yet), "Diva", "Ego", "Single Ladies", "Sweet Dreams" (which was declared as a model to follow.. Just to inform you it has more than 30 wrongly fixed references... formatting errors... I have already fixed them.). I even created an article for "Freakum Dress" which was kept (note that very few Beyonce members wiki-project commented there, which is good so that it is not referred to as canvassing). I even greatly expanded the composition section of "Halo". But i will not always be here. Just having a wiki-project and doing big talks is not enough. We should work together. I wish to tell firmly that i am not being rude. I just want to motivate you. Spare some time for Beyonce. Or else it is better you remove your name from the wiki-project. Don't think that i have so much time to be on Wikipedia. But i do the maximum,. I also wish to tell all of you that i get time to be here not because i do not concentrate in my studies. On the contrary, I am among the top 3 best students in my college having "six upper 6 classes" with more that 300 pupils. Please participate and help me fix Beyonce articles. Her album will be dropping soon. Then do you think that you will like to work on her previous articles? I do not think so. Therefore i appeal to all of you to begin the work seriously. Please. I had no intention of offending anyone. AND I ALSO WISH TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT FLATTERING MYSELF. I DO NOT LIKE TO SHOW OFF. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO WORK LIKE A TEAM. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Things do get into your head don't they? And now you did what you wanted to. If this doesnot put off people, then there's somethinjg wrong with them. Sorry boss, I take leave from you and your queen. My respect for you as the editor just fuzzed off. Before I leave, one recommendation. Know what you speak before even writing. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Please do not be angry. I told you that i did not mean to be rude. Please Legolas, forgive me. I said all this because i do not see anyone really working on Beyonce articles, i mean all those FAs articles require immediate attention. On top of all this, i left such a message because my exams will be starting soon. It will last for two months (obviously, i will stop editing during tis period) and when i will be back, Beyonce's fourth album will be dropping. So do you really think anyone will be interested in working on her old songs then? NO. Everyone will be busy editing her new singles and the rest. Please Legolas. Forgive me if you think i was rude. Try to understand what i wanted to do. Jivesh • Talk2Me 19:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I hope you will accept my apologies. See Legolas, i know that sometimes i talk too much but you should not every-time take everything so seriously. I mean, i am not as experienced, mature, and comprehensive as you. This is how adolescents like me become adults. Don't you think everyone commits a considerably higher number of mistakes during adolescence. My point is most of us are not of your age, perhaps that is why my thoughts often differ. I am not trying to justify my above message. I still think that i have committed a mistake. Please reply. Jivesh • Talk2Me 19:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh.... you seem to be under the impression that everyone has a keep and equal level of interest in Beyoncé that you do. Some editors who've joined the project do so out of their love for the artist and desire to improve her articles at leisure. Wikiprojects like this should co-ordinate efforts to improve articles. It is not a commitment to fix all her articles and make them GA as soon as possible, equally it shouldn't be a commitment about everyone equalling editing. People have the leisure to edit at their own expense and so perhaps people find your comments a little over-powering when you say "No one is helping me" etc. The project is about improving Beyoncé's articles, NOT helping one or two particular editors fulfil their desire to have a whole collection of GA and FA articles on the subject just for the sake of it. There's no race here... the editing should be leisurely and fun not a chore or target-based task like its turning into. I started a thread about the quality of articles because I was concerned that this project has being used a vehicle to simply create Beyonce articles for the sake of it.

While you might have the time to edit as much as you do, bare in mind that others may not. Additionally others may other editing interests too. While I applaud your enthusiasm I would ask that you be mindful that others might not share the same level of enthusiasm you have. This project should not be led by any single editor... it should be a friendly free-flowing thing that people can pop in and out of as they feel interested in making improvements. My main concerns were you were too focussed on creating articles for things such as Freakum Dress when there were (and still are) plenty of Beyonce articles requiring improvement. If your genuinely interested in improving the quality of articles before her new album arrives then focus on the existing ones instead of creating new ones. Jivesh ... I am saying this as a friend/mentor/fellow editor (whichever you think i am), it seems like you spend an aweful lot of time editing for personal satisfaction, this is fine but remember again that not everyone feels the same towards Beyonce or shares the same level of desire in editing her articles. Sorry I had to address some of the comments you've made on talkpages and certainly the messages you left above. Please continue your good work, I ask that you hold some perspective in your editing though. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 18:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey thank you my friend for explaining all this to me so kindly. I have already fixed nearly all B'Day singles except, "Greenlight". I have finished with "Deja Vu", "Ring The Alarm", "Irreplaceable", "Upgrade U", "Beautiful Liar", "Get Me Bodied" (almost). Actually i love Beyonce a lot (more than anyone can imagine) and i am expanding all her articles because i fell they lack too much of information. Thank you for being my friend and especially for always being patient with me. You are a very nice person. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

That's no problem, my concern is that comments like this: "AND I ALSO WISH TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT FLATTERING MYSELF. I DO NOT LIKE TO SHOW OFF. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO WORK LIKE A TEAM." show you probably need to start taking more breaks from wikipedia to remember their is a life away from the computer. Kick a football... listen to some Beyonce, TV, school work etc... -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 18:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

To tell you frankly, i am in a hurry to fix her articles for a simple reason. I will be having exams in near future and i will be away form Wikipedia for months and months. I will really miss editing. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

At the end of the day its your decision. But remember to enjoy editing. It shouldn't feel like a full-time job or that you're having to force others to help. They will help when they're free in the mean time you do what you can... you do a good job when you take your time. But remember not to become obsessed with it. obsession is not a good thing. Not good for the mental or physical health. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 18:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for late reply. Yes i will try my best but i think i am already too obsessed with Beyonce. For me, she is Irreplaceable. Thanks for all your support. See you very soon. Goodnight sweet dreams. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Feeding the "Anorexic" articles...

I've noticed that extremely talented users have made Beyoncé's singles AMAZING!!!! Passing GA Reviews with flying colors! But some articles (in this case "Song" articles) are just bottom of the barrel... To name a few:

• "Dangerously in Love 2"
• "Summertime (Beyoncé Knowles song)"
• "Amor Gitano"
• "Work It Out (Beyoncé Knowles song)"
• "Welcome to Hollywood"

These articles really need help... I've begun partial reconstruction, but I am basically a beginner at creating GA's.. And although I can find plenty of info, sometimes my wording/referencing is horrible.. And I'm sure other users can give a lot more information from their own sources! We just need you to speak-up and add to the page.. No one will bite your head off if you do something wrong, the fact is you're still helping! So please help "feed these anorexic articles," thank you :D Theuhohreo (talk) 17:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

So I've begun work on "Work It Out (Beyoncé Knowles song)" and would really love for people to add some insight into it! :D Theuhohreo (talk) 00:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I will but tomorrow. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

What do you want me to do specifically? Do not worry about the references. I will format them appropriately. I saw you are using ref links but it is not really good. Use it to to at least format it the way you are doing it, then i will add the work, publisher, dates, authors, etc. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I usually just use the refflinks to help format over used references into just one used multiple times and make it look neat for the time being. Right now I'm just putting as much info into the articles as i can. I really wanna make "Work It Out (Beyoncé Knowles song)" a FA! Mwahahahahahaaaa >:D I just feel that as Beyoncé's first official solo-single, I want it to get hella recognition. Theuhohreo (talk) 19:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Jimee i am so happy to have you here in this wiki-project. Thank you infinitely for being here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

"Welcome To Hollywood" and "Summertime" are the only remaining articles. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

"Dangerously in Love 2"  Done "Amor Gitano"  Done "Welcome to Hollywood"  Done

I have already started to work on "Summertime". Then, i will finish "The Fighting Temptations". After that, i will say goodbye to Wikipedia (till December 2011). Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Fourth album

A sandbox draft of Beyonce's next album has been started. Feel free to add to it, but please do not move it into mainspace or create a new article about the album without discussion. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Wishing on a star and Remix list

I'm not sure if Knowles version of "Wishing on a Star" is notable enough to stand on it's own but seeing what this team did with songs like "Fever" and "Kitty Kat" it'd be nice if we could expand the section on her cover of the song.

Also, I was wondering if it was appropriate to create an article of remixes officially commissioned by Knowles and her team such as this article from the GagaPedia. The list would only include remixes used in single releases and compilation and not unofficial remixes, mash-ups, etc. Ours would have to be completely referenced, though, simply to prevent users from adding unsourced remixes that could be unofficial. Amazon, iTunes and other similar sites can provide us with lists of offical remixes. RatiziAngelou^contribs 22:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

To the first point: the whole article can be expanded, including Beyonce's bit, but be sure not to give it undue weight.

As for a list of official remixes – I don't really see the point of doing that. To be honest there are enough articles to work on now before we even think about creating a somewhat trivial list like that. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

About whether "Flaws and All" is a promo single. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

GA reviews

Can I remind participants that generally they should not review other GA nominations put up by the project, unless they have had nothing to do with the article and can write a very NPOV review. Thank you. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The one reviewing the article just became a member of the project and he is not so used to editing Beyonce articles. He has no edits on I Am... Sasha Fierce. Jivesh • Talk2Me 12:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Singles Chronology

I'm tired of reverting edits and having to fix things that are completely silly. The single order I remember was: Video Phone > Telephone > Put it in a Love Song > Run the World But when I attempted changing the previous single on Run the World to PIIALS from Telephone I got reverted. Someone needs to put their foot down on the matter and clearly my edits aren't being respected. RatiziAngelou^contribs 07:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I thought that was the order too. But look at the radio dates: PIIALS on Janusry 19 and Telephone on January 26. I hope this clears it up for you? Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

If that's true then get from Video Phone to Run the World by clicking the Next single option in their info boxes and see how inconsistent that is right now.

I think I got it this time. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting fact

In case you care: On May 26, 2011 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album) appeared on the Main Page's Did you know? section, and received 23,500 views (up from 10-12k views/day), and is the non-lead DYK with the sixth-most hits ever. Beyoncé Knowles also had increased traffic, with 70,900 views (up from 12-47k views/day). Thanks to all who contributed to the article. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow Amazing. Keep us updated Ada. Thanks. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Awards

I am working on the awards + noms list here. If anyone wants to jump in feel free. A good template to use is the Madonna one. —Andrew_stalk 06:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Working on them articles...

So I recently started working on previous article relating to Beyoncé, since making any article that needed to be made from 4. I would really love some help on articles such as '03 Bonnie & Clyde, which is very close to GA, and The Closer I Get to You, which i just began construction on today. If anyone has the free time and would like to stop by one of these articles and help, that would be great! Would love to get all the past articles to GA-status before creating new ones and working on those :] Theuhohreo (talk) 23:09, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I will help but first i will improve "Countdown" which is rumored to be the third single form 4. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

4 Intimate Nights With Beyoncé

I have began a page to construct "4 Intimate Nights With Beyoncé" here. The page will not be made until the setlist is officially revealed, but I would love insight and additional references from more users. I am using I Am... Yours as a template, but will attempt to make the page more notable. Theuhohreo (talk) 16:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Page was officially published! I would love someone to rate/grade it and love even more for those to help with the article! :] Theuhohreo (talk) 00:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

"I Was Here" Single status.

I know the song isn't an official single but I couldn't help but wonder if it should be considered a promotional single considering that it was used to promote the FIFA Women's World Cup Final. I don't know if this changes anything I just wanted it to be known. I wasn't sure if it was actually used promotionally or if it was only a track included on the album. RatiziAngelou^contribs 17:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Using it for the promotion of FIFA Women's World Cup Final obviously does not make it a promotional single. It did not receive any kind of release. To tell you frankly, I do not even consider "Party" to be a single since it has been sent to radio only. Moreover, Beyonce's team always make press releases but there has been none regarding "Party". Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't hear anything on it. Beyoncé's team will usually give us cover art even when there is no physical release such as with Ego and Diva. They haven't mentioned anything. I guess we'll have to wait for the video and see if any word comes out about it then. For Halo and Diva, we received videos before anything else. I'm just not sure. RatiziAngelou^contribs 16:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, exactly!!! All these things further confirm that "Party" is not a single. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

The Rumor-Mill

Just a head up to everyone, the new main rumor circulating is that "Party" and "Countdown" will be dually released. "Party" for Urban radio, and "Countdown" for Mainstream radio. "Party" is being solicited to Urban Radio for airplay where it received 32 adds from radios today, 30 of which were Urban. And according to multiple twitter reports, music videos for both songs where already shot, as were pre-taped performances, both expected to be released and premiere by the end of this month leading into October. One performance is expected to be October 8 during the Michael Jackson tribute, and the other is definitely a performance of "Countdown" on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon expected to premiere Sept 23/24/25. Just thought I'd give a heads up to the Beyhive editors :] UhOh ^STACK STACK _STACK 02:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

OMG. Great!!! ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:49, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I Was Here

I was here... I lived, I loved. I was here... I did, I've done, everything that I wanted And it was more than I thought it would be, I will leave my mark so everyone will know I WAS HERE...

UhOh ^STACK STACK _STACK 16:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

You will never be forgotten my friend. I am feeling like crying right now and i swear on whatever i have most precious on Earth that i am not lying. I never even dreamed that i would such a friend like you. Words will not be enough to describe my acute pain and sadness. For me, you are Irreplaceable. May God bless you. Stay in good health and best of luck in everything you would do in life. Jimee, i know it is very bad to say this to you but you caused me a lot of pain by leaving. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Interesting Fact

After Knowles' performance at the VMAs, the number of views of her bio page surged form 19000, to 187,000. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

This happens always, all the time. Depending the visibility of a subject, for example Where Is the Love? of this year Super Bowl, after it was performed by the BEP. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.

Yes, i was happy to see that surge. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 08:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Who loves likes the Destiny's Child?

My greetings to all participants in this Wiki-project which is very dear to me. As you see here, King B is not very happy. Lol. I am just trying to be a bit funny. Okay. Let's get serious now. Before anyone drops by telling me Wikipedia is not a forum (lol), let me make it clear that i am posting here because i have some suggestions to make so that i can make things move even more here. I am not expecting significant help but anything would do. I am planning to start taking care of all the song articles (one at a time of course) by the Destiny's Child in December 2011 as their articles also form part of the Wiki-project. So who is ready to jump on board?. I do not need/expect considerable assistance... If only someone could help me finding some good interviews Giselle, Michelle and Kelendria gave and some sources for their live performances, it would be simply great. I am not in a hurry because i am having exams this month as well as the next month. So think well and reply my friends. It does not matter if you are all busy. I will make it on my own. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:21, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Love on Top

Shouldn't it be grouped in with her other promotional singles? I mean it was pretty much a full single in Australia and it has a single cover like her other promotional singles but none of her others in the "songs" category have. RatiziAngelou^contribs 04:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

It is now a promotional single but it is still quite confusing. First let me clear your doubts. Any radio release except US =/= Single. Secondly, whoever reported the cover took care not to write single cover. Now why did Beyonce premiere the video there. She herself told it was a gift to her Australian fan s to have showed so much love to the song (while other countries kind of forgot it.) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Live at Wembley

Has anybody come across any professional reviews for LAW? Even one would be great! —Andrew_stalk 07:28, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I will see what I can do. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Some reviews and description:

• http://www.amazon.com/Beyonce-Live-at-Wembley-Beyonc/dp/B0001XAQ7I
• http://www.secondspin.com/movies/product-detail.jsp?id=2398127
• http://movies.amctv.com/movie/304899/Beyonce-Live-at-Wembley/overview
• http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/music/Live-at-Wembley-Beyonce-Knowles/074645862699-item.html?cookieCheck=1

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:36, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Superfluous Song Articles?

I hate to rain on the article parade but I feel that a lot of articles are created for Knowles' songs that lack any real sort of notability. Not that these articles aren't well written but they do all seem to be copies of each other as most quote the same articles where the album was discussed in full. The songs are typically never discussed on their own in these sources. Maybe this is an argument for the song project but it looks like a lot of these articles are justified by the use of odd charts that any song can chart on such as ringtone charts and ones based on downloads but seem very conditional like the South Korea Gaon International Chart. There should probably be a discussion about with charts are actually notable. 70.112.0.95 (talk) 04:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

If you don't mention article names it is impossible to tell you why the articles exist. Notability is establisher by the WP:N criteria and the WP:NSONGS subcriteria. If a chart or site is not listed at WP:BADCHARTS, the chart is OK. Well-written articles is not a requirement for deletion too. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:18, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

@ the IP, I think you are under some serious misconception. First of all, all the Beyonce song articles pass WP:GNG before passing the WP:NSONGS criteria. So, I am sorry to say that you came to the wrong wiki-project. Anyway, if you want to stretch this discussion, I will be the happiest one to respond to each of your concerns. You can begin by listing the articles you think "lack any real sort of notability". Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

All I'm saying is that songs like "I Care", "Rather Die Young" and "Start Over" don't have any real business having their own full articles among a few others. They haven't had any sort of notable coverage or live performances outside of the set list of her own personal shows. The only part of WP they seem to have covered is charting but like I said before, these ringtone charts can't honestly be notable enough to justify a full article, can they? And the South Korea Gaon International Chart only really show the songs charting after the albums release for no particular reason other than the album being out. I don't think it's a good enough chart to justify these articles. 70.112.0.95 (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

If you consider that the Korean chart is not notable for Wikipedia you shoud take it to the talk page of WP:CHARTS and fill a case or seach for consensus to list the Gaon Chart at WP:BADCHARTS. While the record charts are not listed there, the chart still being notable. On the other hand, "charting" is not a requeriment for an article to stand as an article (See D.S. (song)). Start Over, I Care (Beyoncé Knowles song) and Rather Die Young are notables enough to have their own article as they fill the WP:GNG. That's why they exist. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 21:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

We can not select charts, all are notable if not was in WP: BADCHARTS. What should be considered not charts but the spelling, and in all the pages mentioned by you is remarkable. Silencio faz bem (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

@ the IP, I am telling you again. You have come to the wrong wiki-project. If you have anything against Beyonce, create a hate blog as Wikipedia is not one. All her articles are notable enough before passing the WP:SONGS. And frankly, using "I Care" as an example is a big joke. So... Au revoir très cher. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I somewhat agree with the anon. While songs may technically be notable (appearing on one chart), most people who don't have 4 won't have heard of these songs. There are countless album tracks which have charted; imagine if we created an article for each of those. Lemme give some examples. —Andrew_stalk 05:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, Andrew I think they are all notable enough. I can prove my point for each of them if you want. And if I was really creating an article for each of them, I would have done one for "Lay Up Under Me" ... but I did not because it does not pass notability. Nevertheless, it reached number one in Korea and has sold 450,000+ copies. All this to only tell you that I work according to WP:GNG an not WP:SONGS. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I kinda agree with this anon. I think all of these articles should pass both WP:SONGS and WP:GNG before anything else. And these charts might need to get on that list of bad charts. And why exactly does "I Care" sound like a joke suggestion? I can't really see why the song matters at all myself. RatiziAngelou^contribs 01:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

If all of you believe that these articles are obscure and kinda pathetic, here is the solution. Let the community decide if the articles are notables or not. If many people don't have 4 on their homes is not a justification for merging or redirect. Stop wasting our time with this long, redundant and contradictory discussion. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Ratizi, I have began to think you have something against me. You are always contradicting me. Have you read "I Care"? 90% of Wikipedia song articles do not have all that information about production. Anyway, you want it to be deleted? Go ahead my dear. And let's see what happens. Anyway, don't think I am using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS as an excuse, but care to venture in other wiki-projects to see what are examples of failing the WP:GNG criteria. Here, the song articles pass both criteria you mentioned. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Destiny's Child?

Was simply wondering if this project helps out Destiny's Child articles. It's just that I looked at List of awards received by Destiny's Child and it is a complete mess. I am relatively new to Wikipedia and was wondering if any of the more experienced editors could help clean it up as it upsets me that such a great group that includeded the one and only Beyoncé has a page related that is a complete mess. So basically my question is will some people help clean it up if they know how to and also does this project do Destiny's Child related articles or is strictly Beyoncé only? --Lolcakes25 (talk) 01:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it is both as Beyonce was a member of DC. Since I came here, I have worked only on Beyonce's articles related to her solo career but I will soon start to work on DC's articles. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Help please

Can anyone please tell me the duration and time (start to end) for which Beyonce talks about "Broken-Hearted Girl" in the Behind the scenes cut on the DVD collection of the platinum edition of I Am... Sasha Fierce or the remix album Above and Beyonce? Please. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Just to be clear, we're looking for the overall time range (e.g. 35:00 – 37:00), not the time within the specific track. This is for Jivesh's FAC, so I hope someone out there can help him out. Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 18:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

My name is Erick, I'm from Mexixo. From what I have check, Beyoncé talks about Broken Heart Girl from 42.24 till 44.46 and then she talks about the others. Sorry if my English is not good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.54.40 (talk) 05:28, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. The information is greatly helpful. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for replying so late. My sincere thanks to you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 09:45, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Super Bowl XLVII halftime show

New article for this very highly-covered performance! --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:27, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Please participate ...

... here. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Note

Note that there is a discussion going on here about the importance of the Billboard Millennium Award. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:40, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

File:Beyonceasachild .jpg

File:Beyonceasachild .jpg has been nominated for deletion. Is this Beyonce Knowles? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 06:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

The Great Gatsby (soundtrack)

I added this article to WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles since the album features one song by Beyoncé plus a cover version of one of her songs. If project members decide the article should not be included under the WikiProject's umbrella, I will not be offended. --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Grown Woman

She's finally performed "Grown Woman" at a televised appearance and the leak has been reviewed by TONS of legitimat websites... Someone in the BeyHive wanna get on creating a page for it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.196.80 (talk) 20:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Read WP:NSONGS, if the song charts and/or multiple non-trivial reliable references exist, it can have an article. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 22:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Covers

I have a question. Should Beyoncé's live covers of other artists' songs be part of the Wikiproject and should they be included in the {{Template: Beyoncé Knowles singles}}? I added a section about Beyoncé's cover of "I Will Always Love You" in the article and later added the song in the Template. Since no one reverted my edit I suppose that is not wrong. There are also sections about Beyoncé's covers of "You Don't Love Me (No, No, No)", "A Change Is Gonna Come", "I Wanna Be Where You Are" etc. If they are part of the WikiProject I will work to make them GAs one day but if they are not I won't bother editing them. I need opinion about this from other editors. My love is love (talk) 19:16, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't think they are important at all to the project if she has only performed them live. If a live recording was released for sale, then perhaps, but otherwise, no. Adabow (talk) 00:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you. I will remove "I Will Always Love You" from the Template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by My love is love (talk • contribs) 08:57, 2 August 2013‎ (UTC)

No No No, Balkan cover?

Đogani - Prvo ne (da) Didn't really know if this was worth mentioning in the song's artcile. I don't know how notable this artist is. RatiziAngelou^contribs 01:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Djogani - Prvo ne da RatiziAngelou^contribs 00:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Special Tour performances?

I noticed that no references are made to special performances of songs and samples used on several performances from Beyoncé's tours. I'm referring to things like "Check on It" being performed over the beat of "Palance" and Diva with "Clique" or certain songs that were part of the set list for certain dates like "Sweet Dreams" during the I Am Tour or "Resentment" during the Mrs Carter Show. Isn't worth mentioning in the notes below setlists? RatiziAngelou^contribs 00:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Life Is But A Dream DVD

She's just announced that the documentary will be released on DVD, with a second disk with her Live At Atlantic City concert (Revel shows) also. Does a new page need to be created for the DVD, or does it just need to be added to the Life Is But a Dream page? Also, as the second disk is a live DVD, does this need to be added to her discography? --Lolcakes25 (talk) 20:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

It's like any other film; the DVD details can be included in the main article. Yes, it should be included in the discography. Adabow (talk) 20:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

4 FAC

Hello,

I thought I'd drop a note in here regarding the featured article candidacy of 4. The article was archived on October 27 with 2 supports and 1 neutral decision on whether to promote, leading to no consensus. As it was quite close to being promoted (and it went through so much work), I intend to nominate it again in the near future, once some of the comments have been addressed. The main issue was the quality of the prose; parts of the article often had grammatical errors and redundant words that I was awful at finding. Thus, I was wondering if any members of WP:BEY had the time to look over the article it would greatly appreciated! Thanks! —JennKR | ☎ 00:16, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Flawless (Beyoncé Knowles song)

Hi, could someone re-assess Flawless (Beyoncé Knowles song)? The article is currently marked as start-class, but has been deleveloped heavily since that assessment. — Mayast (talk) 01:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Track lists?

I noticed all of the articles for Beyoncé's albums don't include all versions of track lists with B'Day and IASF being the messiest. Check on It wasn't standard with the American release so why is it included without mention to it being an Int. bonus track? Or all the version of IASF that included remixes and different track order? The track lists really need to be looked at again. 204.57.81.11 (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Project page move / move of the categories

I nominated WikiProject Beyoncé-related categories to be renamed (Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé) at WP:CFDS, and the nomination was objected, as the project page was moved without any discussion. If you feel that it should still be named "WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles", please move it back, and if the current name is going to stay, maybe you could support the move of the categories? — Mayast (talk) 13:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Support move of categories and keeping the project as WikiProject Beyoncé per talk page discussion at Beyoncé where it was indicated that all pertinent pages would be moved accordingly. —JennKR | ☎ 14:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Category:WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles

Category:WikiProject Beyoncé Knowles, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Obsessed (2009 film)

I am looking at renominating this article for GA, but after three failed GANs I want to know if anyone can spot any remaining glaring mistakes. If you could spare 5 minutes to give it a quick glance I would be grateful. Adabow (talk) 09:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I Was Here track list and promo release?

Seems to be a promotional release of "I Was Here" was released. Did not know if it was worth noting or if it was official. A google search turned up this exact track list on several sites with some varying cover art.

1. I Was Here (Redtop club (12") mix) 7:13
2. I Was Here (WaWa Anthem Mix) 6:32
3. I Was Here (StrictLove Beach House Club Mix) 6:58
4. I Was Here (J-C Club Mix) 7:46
5. I Was Here (Original Version) 3:59

RatiziAngelou^contribs 20:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Unless it was available to purchase direct from the label as a general release, we don't list promotional releases as these are not intended for the general public. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 20:54, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Infobox image at main Beyoncé article

Interested editors may wish to join this discussion about the infobox image at Beyoncé. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Live in Atlantic City

I created an article about Live in Atlantic City which can be seen here. I need opinions if I should publish it or not. My love is love (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The extra content there can be included in Life Is But a Dream, but I think separating the two articles means too much doubling-up on information, and it's not like it would create a ridiculously large article. Adabow (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Actually @Adabow: it will be something similar to I'm Going to Tell You a Secret (album). There will be something like the album section of the film. And the information in the Life Is But a Dream article about the DVD release will be reduced and the template Main article will be included. Plus the article is long enough to become a GA. My love is love (talk) 16:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh OK, yeah go for it. Adabow (talk) 21:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Can I (song)

Project members are welcome to assist with the expansion of Can I (song), a new Drake song featuring Beyonce. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Destiny's Child articles

I need an opinion about this. Should Destiny's Child-related articles be included in this WikiProject? I Am... ***D.D. 10:38, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

My vote is yes. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Ivy Park

This new article could use expanding, and might be pretty easy to promote to Good status. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:13, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

"Die with You"

I created the redirect "Die with You" until project members feel there is enough material about the song to justify an article. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Update: This page is now a stub, after Beyoncé released a second music video to commemorate her 9th wedding anniversary. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:59, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Blow (Beyoncé song)

Resolved

Is anyone willing to try promoting Blow (Beyoncé song) to good article status? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Marking this section as resolved since the article has been promoted. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:00, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Homecoming

I've created a stub for Homecoming at Homecoming (2019 film). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Beyoncé tour articles & access

Currently, the Beyoncé tour articles only partially meet the WP:ACCESSIBILITY guideline. Specifically, some tables do not include a caption, scope of headers ( ! scope="col" | and ! scope="row" | ), and other concerns as outlined in MOS:DTAB and MOS:DTT. The latter also advises against including column headers in the middle of the table (such as those spanning several columns).

Propose to update tour articles as follows. If no one objects, I'll go ahead and make these changes. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Example using On the Run II Tour:

List of European concerts (Leg 1)

Date (2018)	City	Country	Venue	Opening acts	Attendance (Tickets sold / available)	Revenue
June 6	Cardiff	Wales	Principality Stadium	DJ Tom Clugston	39,731 / 39,731	$4,186,450
June 9	Glasgow	Scotland	Hampden Park	Nasty P	37,963 / 37,963	$4,132,251
June 13	Manchester	England	Etihad Stadium	DJ Stylus	46,990 / 46,990	$5,782,025
June 15	London		London Stadium	N/A	126,443 / 126,443	$11,035,860
June 16
June 19	Amsterdam	Netherlands	Amsterdam Arena	DeeJay Abstract	97,869 / 97,869	$9,753,269
June 20				DJ Flava
June 23	Copenhagen	Denmark	Telia Parken	N/A	45,356 / 45,356	$5,741,911
June 25	Stockholm	Sweden	Friends Arena		46,647 / 46,647	$4,610,554
June 28	Berlin	Germany	Olympiastadion		57,155 / 57,155	$5,697,111
June 30	Warsaw	Poland	PGE Narodowy	DJ Eprom	53,500 / 53,500	$4,624,995
July 3	Cologne	Germany	RheinEnergieStadion	DJ Teddy-O	39,501 / 39,501	$4,520,814
July 6	Milan	Italy	San Siro	N/A	49,051 / 49,051	$4,460,552
July 8	Rome		Stadio Olimpico		40,440 / 40,440	$3,475,543
July 11	Barcelona	Spain	Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys		46,982 / 46,982	$4,733,549
July 14	Saint-Denis	France	Stade de France		111,615 / 111,615	$10,905,089
July 15
July 17	Nice		Allianz Riviera		33,662 / 33,662	$3,898,900

List of North American concerts (Leg 2)

Date (2018)	City	Country	Venue	Opening acts	Attendance (Tickets sold / available)	Revenue
July 25	Cleveland	U.S.	FirstEnergy Stadium	Chloe x Halle DJ Khaled	38,931 / 38,931	$4,194,376
July 27	Summerfield		FedExField		81,964 / 81,964	$11,437,578
July 28
July 30	Philadelphia		Lincoln Financial Field		54,870 / 54,870	$6,709,691
August 2	East Rutherford		MetLife Stadium		99,755 / 99,755	$13,886,416
August 3
August 5	Foxborough		Gillette Stadium		47,667 / 47,667	$6,159,980
August 8	Minneapolis		U.S. Bank Stadium		32,851 / 32,851	$3,627,417
August 10	Chicago		Soldier Field		86,602 / 86,602	$12,303,099
August 11
August 13	Detroit		Ford Field		43,699 / 43,699	$5,310,376
August 16	Columbus		Ohio Stadium		35,083 / 35,083	$3,142,160
August 18	Orchard Park		New Era Field		38,053 / 38,053	$4,262,076
August 21	Columbia		Williams–Brice Stadium		38,057 / 38,057	$3,920,226
August 23	Nashville		Vanderbilt Stadium		35,353 / 35,353	$4,058,910
August 25	Atlanta		Mercedes-Benz Stadium		105,170 / 105,170	$14,074,692
August 26
August 29	Orlando		Camping World Stadium		39,423 / 39,423	$4,749,202
August 31	Miami Gardens		Hard Rock Stadium		44,310 / 44,310	$6,295,535
September 11	Arlington		AT&T Stadium		41,626 / 41,626	$5,713,125
September 13	New Orleans		Mercedes-Benz Superdome		40,939 / 40,939	$5,437,147
September 15	Houston		NRG Stadium		88,022 / 88,022	$11,056,837
September 16
September 19	Glendale		State Farm Stadium		37,174 / 37,174	$4,426,568
September 22	Pasadena		Rose Bowl		106,550 / 106,550	$13,464,062
September 23
September 27	San Diego		SDCCU Stadium		42,953 / 42,953	$5,445,486
September 29	Santa Clara		Levi's Stadium		47,235 / 47,235	$7,548,208
October 2	Vancouver	Canada	BC Place		39,032 / 39,032	$4,366,828
October 4	Seattle	U.S.	CenturyLink Field		40,718 / 40,718	$4,888,994
Total					2,177,049 / 2,177,049 (100%)	$254,514,982

All the tour articles are now updated, except for I Am... World Tour and The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour. These tours include some one- or two-city concerts in different continents; using separate tables for these would produce too many or overly complicated tables. Propose to keep the current one-table format that these two use, but move the continents to a column as follows:

—Ojorojo (talk) 18:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Example using I Am... World Tour:

List of concerts, showing date, city, country, continent, venue, attendance and gross revenue

Date	City	Country	Continent	Venue	Attendance (Tickets sold / available)	Revenue
March 26, 2009	Edmonton	Canada	North America	Rexall Place	N/A	N/A
March 27, 2009	Saskatoon			Credit Union Centre
March 28, 2009	Winnipeg			MTS Centre
March 31, 2009	Vancouver			General Motors Place	10,685 / 12,595	$888,305
April 1, 2009	Seattle	U.S.		KeyArena	N/A	N/A
April 26, 2009	Zagreb	Croatia	Europe	Arena Zagreb	16,599 / 17,190	$810,754
April 28, 2009	Vienna	Austria		Wiener Stadthalle	N/A	N/A
April 29, 2009	Budapest	Hungary		Budapest Sports Arena
April 30, 2009	Prague	Czech Republic		O2 Arena	10,615 / 10,951	$624,987
May 2, 2009	Rotterdam	Netherlands		The Ahoy	20,297 / 20,297	$1,329,275
May 3, 2009
May 5, 2009	Paris	France		Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy	16,149 / 16,149	$1,142,061
May 6, 2009	Strasbourg			Zénith de Strasbourg	5,869 / 10,300	$353,644
May 7, 2009	Antwerp	Belgium		Sportpaleis	15,780 / 15,836	$1,033,927
May 8, 2009	Berlin	Germany		O2 World	12,477 / 12,477	$609,712
May 10, 2009	Herning	Denmark		Hall M	N/A	N/A
May 11, 2009	Gothenburg	Sweden		Scandinavium	8,271 / 8,500	$611,707
May 13, 2009	Stockholm			Ericsson Globe	10,640 / 10,640	$728,113
May 15, 2009	Oberhausen	Germany		König-Pilsener Arena	9,832 / 10,037	$514,196
May 16, 2009	Zürich	Switzerland		Hallenstadion	12,180 / 12,240	$900,936
May 18, 2009	Lisbon	Portugal		Pavilhão Atlântico	17,944 / 18,649	$890,173
May 19, 2009	Madrid	Spain		Palacio Vistalegre	15,061 / 15,061	$917,996
May 20, 2009	Barcelona			Palau Sant Jordi	10,560 / 11,650	$673,865
May 22, 2009	Newcastle	England		Metro Radio Arena	21,962 / 21,962	$2,331,923
May 23, 2009	Birmingham			National Indoor Arena	22,384 / 22,420	$2,437,695
May 25, 2009	London			The O2 Arena	91,746 / 91,746	$9,061,819
May 26, 2009
May 27, 2009	Manchester			Manchester Evening News Arena	29,310 / 29,754	$3,266,557
May 29, 2009	Dublin	Ireland		The O2	75,660 / 75,660	$8,491,788
May 30, 2009
May 31, 2009	Belfast	Northern Ireland		Odyssey Arena	29,356 / 29,356	$2,794,877
June 1, 2009
June 3, 2009	Dublin	Ireland		The O2
June 4, 2009
June 6, 2009	Liverpool	England		Echo Arena Liverpool	21,590 / 21,605	$2,469,029
June 7, 2009	Sheffield			Sheffield Arena	11,049 / 11,049	$889,562
June 8, 2009	London			The O2 Arena
June 9, 2009
June 21, 2009	New York City	U.S.	North America	Madison Square Garden	27,580 / 27,710	$3,526,375
June 22, 2009
June 23, 2009	Baltimore			1st Mariner Arena	8,619 / 11,726	$683,904
June 24, 2009	Washington, D.C.			Verizon Center	13,736 / 13,736	$1,390,421
June 26, 2009	Philadelphia			Wells Fargo Center	14,971 / 14,971	$1,377,995
June 27, 2009	Greensboro			Greensboro Coliseum	10,600 / 10,600	$779,424
June 29, 2009	Sunrise			BB&T Center	12,629 / 13,209	$1,015,893
July 1, 2009	Atlanta			Philips Arena	13,949 / 13,949	$1,281,632
July 3, 2009	New Orleans			Mercedes-Benz Superdome	N/A	N/A
July 4, 2009	Houston			Toyota Center	13,130 / 13,130	$1,158,361
July 5, 2009	Dallas			American Airlines Center	11,319 / 11,906	$981,124
July 7, 2009	Phoenix			US Airways Center	8,831 / 12,727	$483,805
July 9, 2009	Sacramento			Sleep Train Arena	7,770 / 11,214	$583,801
July 10, 2009	Oakland			Oracle Arena	11,121 / 12,524	$1,016,012
July 11, 2009	Anaheim			Honda Center	9,924 / 12,287	$937,185
July 13, 2009	Los Angeles			Staples Center	12,738 / 14,217	$1,437,146
July 16, 2009	Minneapolis			Target Center	6,856 / 8,404	$633,501
July 17, 2009	Chicago			United Center	13,852 / 14,773	$1,359,250
July 18, 2009	Auburn Hills			The Palace of Auburn Hills	13,540 / 13,540	$860,250
July 20, 2009	Toronto	Canada		Molson Amphitheatre	15,427 / 16,000	$1,085,943
July 21, 2009	Montreal			Bell Centre	6,732 / 8,630	$640,294
July 23, 2009	Uncasville	U.S.		Mohegan Sun Arena	6,729 / 7,222	$572,150
July 24, 2009	East Rutherford			Izod Center	10,435 / 13,702	$968,245
July 30, 2009	Las Vegas			Encore Theater	N/A	N/A
July 31, 2009
August 1, 2009
August 2, 2009
August 7, 2009	Osaka	Japan	Asia	Maishima Sports Island	N/A	N/A
August 9, 2009	Chiba			Chiba Marine Stadium
August 29, 2009	Donetsk	Ukraine	Europe	Donbass Arena	N/A	N/A
September 15, 2009	Melbourne	Australia	Oceania	Rod Laver Arena	23,448 / 24,548	$2,686,497
September 16, 2009
September 18, 2009	Sydney			Acer Arena	29,584 / 29,584	$3,679,733
September 19, 2009
September 20, 2009	Brisbane			Brisbane Entertainment Centre	N/A	N/A
September 22, 2009	Adelaide			Adelaide Entertainment Centre
September 24, 2009	Perth			Burswood Dome
September 26, 2009	Central Area	Singapore	Asia	Fort Canning	N/A	N/A
October 12, 2009	Kobe	Japan		Kobe World Memorial Hall
October 13, 2009	Osaka			Osaka-jō Hall
October 15, 2009	Nagoya			Nippon Gaishi Hall
October 17, 2009	Saitama			Saitama Super Arena
October 18, 2009
October 20, 2009	Seoul	South Korea		Olympic Gymnastics Arena
October 21, 2009
October 23, 2009	Beijing	China		Wukesong Indoor Stadium
October 29, 2009	Abu Dhabi	United Arab Emirates		Yas Arena
November 2, 2009	Moscow	Russia	Europe	Olimpiysky	N/A	N/A
November 6, 2009	Marsa Alam	Egypt	Africa	The Island at Port Ghalib	N/A	N/A
November 8, 2009	Athens	Greece	Europe	O.A.C.A. Olympic Indoor Hall	N/A	N/A
November 11, 2009	Liverpool	England		Echo Arena Liverpool
November 12, 2009	Birmingham			National Indoor Arena
November 14, 2009	London			The O2 Arena
November 15, 2009
November 16, 2009
November 18, 2009	Manchester			Manchester Evening News Arena
November 19, 2009	Newcastle			Metro Radio Arena
November 20, 2009	Nottingham			Trent FM Arena Nottingham	8,492 / 9,670	$1,252,080
November 22, 2009	Dublin	Ireland		The O2
November 23, 2009
November 24, 2009	Belfast	Northern Ireland		Odyssey Arena
February 4, 2010	Florianópolis	Brazil	South America	Parque do Planeta Atlântida	20,362 / 20,362	$2,417,000
February 6, 2010	São Paulo			Morumbi Stadium	52,757 / 52,757	$4,264,700
February 7, 2010	Rio de Janeiro			HSBC Arena	28,686 / 28,686	$2,934,390
February 8, 2010
February 10, 2010	Salvador			Parque de Exposições de Salvador	28,776 / 28,776	$2,676,240
February 12, 2010	Buenos Aires	Argentina		Hipódromo de San Isidro	N/A	N/A
February 14, 2010	Santiago	Chile		Movistar Arena
February 16, 2010	Lima	Peru		Explanada del Estadio Monumental	25,578 / 25,578	$2,257,379
February 18, 2010	Port of Spain	Trinidad and Tobago		Queen's Park Savannah	N/A	N/A
Total					980,715 / 993,684 (98.6%)	$95,656,252

References

New article: Blue Ivy

An article for Blue Ivy is live. Improvements welcome. --Kbabej (talk) 14:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

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