Wikipedia:Peer review/Slade/archive1

Slade

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… it recently failed a GAN and although some things have been addressed, it still has some way to go and PR seems the next logical step.

Thanks, Ykraps (talk) 19:13, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Comments from Jappalang

• Please read WP:LINKVIO: I have removed several violations of these from this article. Do not link to unauthorised scans of copyrighted material. If the material is a source, cite to it properly. If it is from Kerrang! or other magazines, then {{cite journal}} should be used with the issue number, date, and page number, without linking to sladescrapbook or the other linkvio sites. {{cite news}} for a newspaper article and so on.

• That said, Dave Kemp might have permission to continue the fan club (now online at http://sladefanclub.weebly.com/), but did he receive permission to reprint the newsletters or their copyrights?

• Be consistent in the citations (use only {{citation}}, the {{cite xxxxxx}} templates, or a single style). Right now, the article's citations are a mess with raw links and incomplete citations.

• It appears that several parts of the article are not actually backed up by the cited source. For example, "The band's future was left in the balance as Slade refused to continue without their drummer although Lea's brother, Frank, covered Powell's position at the Isle of Wight Festival to avoid disappointing Slade fans." was linked to a scrap article (a linkvio now removed) that did not back up any of the italicised assertions. http://www.polskieradio.pl/ does not show anything for "It only made number 50 in the UK but was a hit in Poland where it reached number two." These failures cast doubt on the majority of the article.

• What makes the following sites reliable?
  • http://www.45cat.com/
  • http://users.swing.be/amazingslade/
  • http://www.chartstats.com
  • http://www.poparchives.com.au
  • http://slade40years.cms4people.de/slade_don_powell.html
  • http://www.discogs.com
  • http://rateyourmusic.com/
  • http://usuarios.multimania.es/JimLea/portadas/discografia_ingles.html
  • http://www.crazeeworld.plus.com/
  • http://wax.fm/vinyl-lp-releases/slade_ooh_la_la_in_l.html
  • http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Slade-nom_album-Keep_on_Rockin_-l-en.html
  • http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/status_quo_youve_got_to_be_prepared_to_be_told_to_f-ck_off.html
  • http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Slade.aspx
  • http://bigboyzbignoize.blogspot.com/2006/01/perseverance-story-of-slade.html
  • http://blogcritics.org/music/article/music-review-cheap-trick-the-latest1/

  Refer to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-28/Dispatches on how to determine/check the reliability of a source.

• File:SladeSkinheads1969.jpg does not seem to comply with WP:NFCC 8. I find it easy to envision skinheads. This photograph is unnecessary.

• File:Slade Classic Lineup.jpg also seem to be in violation of WP:NFCC 8. There is a "free" photograph of them in the form of File:Slade 18041977 01 400.jpg and the "memorable stage costumes" are shown in the "free" photograph and not in the "non-free" image.

With the mass of questionable sources, this article would require lots of work. It would be best to consolidate material from reliable sources and work anew, rather than trying to secure any material to back up what was already written in the article (thus trying to hammer square pegs into round holes, and pegs of questionable quality at that). Jappalang (talk) 03:49, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello Jappalang, thanks for the feedback. I became involved with this article shortly after it failed to make Good Article and (I think) been abandoned by the main contributor. As the references weren't mentioned in GA review, I didn't check them but having done so since, I have my own doubts over their validity. I have spent much time rewriting the article but agree it is the references which now need the most attention. If I get that bit sorted, would you be prepared to take another look at a later date? Thanks again--Ykraps (talk) 16:54, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Once you do that, bring it back to peer review (it always helps to have others' opinions). I will take a look if I have the time then. Jappalang (talk) 17:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)