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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 09:24, 28 July 2008 [1].

Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award[edit]

After cleaning up this list, I believe that it meets all criteria. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 02:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support*Oppose-Does not meet all of the criteria.

    • Any verifiability for Jackie Robinson's win of the award (lead)?
    • This is called the rookie award, why is there no link to the word rookie anywhere? I suggest wikilink first-year players to the rookie.
    • The lead explains that the award has been named after two players, but it doesn't say how it returned to be called as the MLB rookie of the year award.
    • Per WP:FLAGS#Accompany flags with country names, you should write out the country names in the table.
    • Their are no refs to RS's in the table that verify the winners.
    • What is meant by Major Leagues combined, is this the way the award was presented before its current format?

--SRX 14:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My comments have been addressed.--SRX 18:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Use en-dash, not hyphen for season separators.
    • Make the lead image bigger, up to 300px per the WP:MOS#Images.
    • No need for rookies to be italicised.
    • Key needed for positions.
    • Any reason why Player is capitalised in the table heading?
    • Nationality doesn't sort, but I expect if you add the country names in then it'll work out... but check it.
    • Player sort by first name not surname = use the {{sortname}} template.

The Rambling Man (talk) 14:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • SupportComments
    • In the nationality column, please show the entire country name. For example, use {{USA}} instead of {{flagicon}}
    • I don't quite understand the table. Is there two rookie of the year winners in every given year since 1949, one from each league? Or is there just one winner but two nominees? Perhaps you should clarify this in the lead.

—Chris! ct 22:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above comment have been addressed. Looks good now.—Chris! ct 18:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments
    • You should point out the players who were elcted into the hall of fame and players who are currently active.
    • link some of the years that aren't linked to their MLB seasons
    • I think the qualifications should be in a seperate section
    • If done all, I'll "maybe" support.

Annoyomous24 00:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question Nationality is listed prominently with flags and consuming about a quarter of the width. Why is nationality relevant to a rookie-of-the-year award. Why not age or all-star appearance, etc.? maclean 01:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object Seems to be missing a few entries (eg. Alfredo Griffin, Pat Zachry). I'll try to do some work on this one. --maclean 05:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I added in the missing players and boosted the lead. I find the table to be lacking in some areas; it focuses a lot of attention on an irrelevant feature like nationality of the winner, while not noting more relevant features, like winner by unanimous votes (14 of them, if I remember correctly), or Hall-of-famers (surprisingly small percentage). I think the sort feature works well for team and position (with default on year, I don't see the need to sort by alphabetical name). The lead seems to indicate the contraversy regarding players with previous experience are being counted rookies is a recent thing, but this has been a source of contention for decades (not just limited to players from foreign leagues but long-standing difficulty in definig "rookie" that ends up excluding potential winners). maclean 19:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comments

  • Lede looks pretty good, but I think the National League and American League should both be wikilinked
  • Is there a reason that the players' nationalities appear before their names in the lists?

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments The "names" column should be sortable. Also, there should be a border or a divider of some kind between the National and American players.--Crzycheetah 07:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Closing comment - while the list has a couple of supports, I'm seriously concerned over the last few comments raised by CrzyCheetah and Matthew. The nominator has made one edit in the past 7 days so I am assuming he is now on a wikibreak. The list can be renominated at any point in the future, preferably when the outstanding concerns have been addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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