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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 17:49, 29 June 2008 [1].

List of IIHF World Championship medalists[edit]

The previous FLC was withdrawn because of an editwar on the article; it was fully-protected a bit later, so it then utterly failed criterion 7. I've submitted once again for consideration. Maxim(talk) 21:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Co-Nom I'd also like to add for all reviewers that the edit war that led to the protection of the article appears to be over. The article has been stable for several weeks now and passes criterion 7. -- Scorpion0422 21:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Resolved comments from Gary King (talk) 00:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why have a blue background and a *?
    • Because you aren't supposed to use just colour coding.
  • Perhaps "Host city (cities)" → "Host city/cities" or "Host city or cities", otherwise when you read it aloud it reads just like "Host city cities" and that makes very little sense
  • I don't see why the TOC needs to be aligned to the right
    • Ask Maxim.
      • Because if it's not, it looks out of place, causing a lot of white space between the lede and the start of the next section. Maxim(talk) 00:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's an argument used often, but, as it has been detailed in other discussions, especially at WP:FAC, forcing TOC alignment is strongly discouraged. In this list, especially, if the TOC was moved to the left, not a whole lot of whitespace would result because the TOC is so short. Keeping the TOC to the left unless in extreme circumstances helps readability more than anything else – especially for devices other than web browsers. This suggestion I made is per WP:ACCESS. Gary King (talk) 02:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Maybe hiding the TOC outright is a better idea? It's not of too much use in this list. Maxim(talk) 02:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would also not recommend that because generally speaking, the usefulness of the TOC far outweighs any disadvantages it might have. The only case that I, personally, would not have a TOC is when I can see the entire article in one page without a scrollbar. Gary King (talk) 02:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gary King (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 23:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • No need to capitalise "Gold Medal" in the caption, and no need for a period as it appears to be a sentence fragment, and I suspect en route to be two words.
    • Done.
  • "The Ice Hockey World Championships is..." followed by "They were preceded ..." inconsistent.
    • Done.
  • "1976 world championships" shouldn't the WC be capitalised? There seems to be more than one of these - I'd be looking to be consistent.
    • Done.
  • " nor during the Olympic years 1980, 1984 and 1988." why not?
    • This was brought up during the previous FLC, and my answer is the same, I'm not sure why. I've looked through several sources trying to find an answer, but with no luck. It was probably for the same reason why many other sport world championships don't hold events during Olympic years - they consider the Olympics an unofficial extension.
  • Sorting by Gold gives me Canada (1), Canada (10), Canada (11)... Canada (19), Canada (2), Canada (20)... I suggest this should be 1, 2, 3 etc. You may need to force the sort. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done and done. Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 16:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

  • "Canada, now able to use its best players" WP:POV. Just cause they're professional, doesn't mean they're best.
    • Reworded.
  • "From 1920 to 1930, the Winter Olympics Ice Hockey Tournaments held that year" ten years, but "that" is singular, so refers to one year.
    • Reworded.
  • Instead of the way the key is currently formatted, use a table. Examples are aplenty, List of Golden State Warriors head coaches is just one.
    • It actually already uses a table, it's just that the borders are invisible.
  • What do the gold, silver and bronze medal pictures add to the article?
    • Not much, but they don't really detract anything either. I can remove them if you like. -- Scorpion0422 18:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure the sorting function is a good idea for Host Cities, because where there are two cities, only the first is sortable.
  • Ref 4 is actually a footnote
    • Yes, but a ref isn't needed for that statement because it is based on information provided by the table (which is sourced)
  • List of International Ice Hockey Federation World Championship medalists doesn't exist. How does a user wanting to view this page know to use the abbreviation in the title?
    • A redirect has been created.

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 18:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I made this change simply because most other sport-related lists do it in this way. Besides that, I Support. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I feel like the title shouldn't use an abbreviation. If I'm not mistaken, most sports articles use the full-name of the sports league it applies to. Ie National Basketball Association rather than NBA. I believe the same applies here for International Ice Hockey Federation, so List of International Ice Hockey Federation World Championship medalists. Or for a smaller option, perhaps List of Ice Hockey World Championship medalists, which goes off the title of the event rather than the league. I'm just wary of using an abbreviation of the title. Drewcifer (talk) 17:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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