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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by Casliber via FACBot (talk) 3:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC) [1].

Mangalore[edit]

Review section[edit]

I've been gone more than 5 years, and wasn't around to check the vandalism and edits. I shall be keeping an eye on certain sensitive articles from now on. I just want to clarify. Does this article still satisfy FA criteria, or should it be delisted? Do let me know what issues are there, and I'll do my best to make necessary corrections. Thanks! Liberal Humanist (talk) 10:42, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article is not FA, but it should not require too much work to bring it up to standard.
  • The lead is not satisfactory. It should be an unreferenced summary of the referenced content of the main text, not a collection of referenced statements. It is also short for the size of article, missing such basic facts as population.
  • There is some 'recentism', that is comments which are or will become out of date - e.g. "Recently, a committee of experts constituted by the Tulu Sahitya Academy..." Also "The process of making Mangalore City Corporation into ‘Greater Mangalore’ has almost begun..." There are other examples and you need to go through the article deleting recentism.
  • The names of city officials are better omitted or given as at a specified date. I think there is also too much detail about the companies in the city. It seems a bit like advertising and is probably already out of date.
  • The details on civic government are skimpy. What are the responsibilities of the city and state levels?
  • The figure of 13.7% for the birth rate must be wrong. the highest in the world is Niger at 4.5%.
  • The article could do with a good map. The schematic one of tourist places is not much help.
  • I am not clear what is meant by saying that the city is on the backwaters of rivers. Is it on cut-off arms of the rivers? Does the city connect to river traffic?
  • "adding to its cosmopolitan look and appeal" Advertising language like this should be avoided.
  • "Cruise ships from Europe, North America and UAE arrive at New Mangalore Port to promote tourism around Mangalore." "promote" is the wrong word here.
  • "Mangalore experiences scheduled and unscheduled power cuts, especially during the summer, due to excess consumption demands." Why not inadequate supply?
  • "Potable water to the city is supplied by Mangalore City Corporation." Is this supplied to all residents?
  • I think comments about parks, golf courses etc belong in the tourism section, not utilities.
  • I think the main fault is extensive recentism. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:09, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dudley Miles: I have made all the changes you've suggested to the Mangalore article, except the following:

  • The schematic map has not been changed (Point number 7)
  • Responsibility of the civic government at city and state levels (Point number 5)

I request you to please retain Mangalore as a Featured Article.
D7G1FV49C (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Apologies for the delay in replying. I have been away on holiday and busy since I got back, but I hope to get to get to it in the next fortnight. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:40, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 'Civic administration' section is still unsatisfactory. Saying that the city corporation is "in charge of the civic and infrastructural assets of the city" is vague. There should be a sentence or two specifying the responsibilities of city and state level governments. The next paragraph covers elections to the Lok Sabha before revision, then covers the regional level, then goes back to the revision. This is confusing. However, these points are minor, and I now support the retention of the article as FA. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:19, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dudley Miles, The map image (Point number 7) has been updated in the Mangalore article on December 30th by Vinodxyz. The only pending change right now in your list is the "Civic administration" section (Point number 5). 59.88.196.138 (talk) 08:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dudley Miles, since you had supported the retention of Mangalore as a Featured Article, I request you to give your opinion in the FARC section below. 59.88.196.138 (talk) 08:54, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Liberal Humanist: Are you able to work on addressing the issues raised? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:42, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FARC section[edit]

Issues raised in the review section include recentism, organization/coverage and prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:59, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist. Just taking the first two paragraphs, the population figure is over-precise and should be replaced with a ballpark figure not an exact number that is bound to change and looks faintly ridiculous. In the second paragraph, virtually every sentence begins "Mangalore...", which is over-repetitive, boring and unimaginative. The comments in the review section have not been addressed satisfactorily and if the large number of recent IP edits is anything to go by, the article isn't actively policed by a subject expert who can weed out poor edits or integrate valuable edits sensitively. DrKay (talk) 20:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist, as the items raised have not been adequately addressed. The article needs more detail and needs to be updated from the time submitted to FAC (There are statements beginning with things like "Today..." that are from years ago). The first statement I spot-checked for accuracy ("Today, the Mangalore region is a nationally known higher education hub with a flourishing service sector, particularly in medical services, a small but growing IT regional hub, and a booming real estate and banking industry.") seems to be plagiarized from the source provided, so it's likely that further spot-checking will be needed. --Laser brain (talk) 16:56, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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