Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest/archive4

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 01:17, 16 July 2010 [1].

The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest[edit]

Nominator(s): ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 02:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh out of a hard copyedit, new peer review, and look-overs by five friends from WP:VG. The egregious overlinking has been fixed, and I'm standing by with help to fix any other problems brought up by the review process. Thanks! ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 02:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 05:50, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't think it's proper for the main contributor to assign A-class (further, I think A-class should not be given to articles without a wikiproject review), particularly when the article has not even been reviewed for a GA class. I'd like to see this article achieve GA status first (and I think this should be true for all FACs; that said, all of this is not an objection, just a procedural comment). To end this procedural remark, I think that the article is at least B class, and should get GA easily. With regards to article proper, it looks good, but I'd like to see more links. For example, the first instance of the use DVD is not linked; in body, the first instance of Toronto Star is not linked (and I am sure there are more terms that could be linked per WP:BTW). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- To me, DVD is a common term that does not need linking. Ucucha 13:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - To you, yes. Is it a common term to every school child? In South Africa? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - I was following User:Tony1/Build_your_linking_skills during the linking process, and I figured that "DVD" fails the relevance and uniqueness tests. DVD/newspapers aren't really special to Jonny Quest; readers interested in that topic wouldn't necessarily say, "Hm, I wonder about the Toronto Star's publication." And for uniqueness, Warner Home Video and Turner Entertainment/Hanna-Barbera are linked in the article, which all lead to direct wikilinks to DVD/VHS/release information just one or two clickthroughs away. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 22:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe I made it A-class back when there was no procedure for that. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 00:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (submitter) - Someone's put one of those "too many copyrighted images" templates on it, but hasn't made an objection here. Since the article is 90 kilobytes long and covers a massive history with several unique points, I don't think it'd be out of the question to have this many images; not only are they necessary to describe the show's animation and characters, but the article looks very unattractively bare without them. I invite more thoughtful attention to this that doesn't operate on some numerical rule of thumb for too many images. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 00:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure the last image is needed. Other than that, it should be fine. I'll try to get back tomorrow with more comments. Tezero (talk) 02:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - The animation style is different. Maybe it's just apparant to someone like me whose studied animation though.陣内_Jinnai 02:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - I trust you. But Zeality should be sure he can explain that to other reviewers. Tezero (talk) 02:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Someone in peer review mentioned that the article might do without it, so I'll just go to plan B. I've spoken with one of the writers before and he's open to the idea of sending in an OTRS ticket for a self-picture in the second season. For now, I've removed it. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 22:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

Why do you need such a short section and small table for the DVD releases at the bottom?
The hidden tables need to be unhidden
I would see about seperating the 2 pull quotes. Pull quotes usually aren't back-to-back in articles.
You should really consider limiting and removing any of the non-contriversial citations in the lead. I'm not sure there is much that is really contriversial in the lead nor are there any quotes. The plot info which generally shouldn't need any FE has the most.陣内_Jinnai 15:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Moved under the marketing section; thanks.
- What would you suggest with those tables? They always seemed unwieldy to me, even though I wanted to include them. Having them unhidden might make the article very ugly, so I'm considering just removing them, since the information is accessible in an external link.
- Separated the quotes.
- Lead sentences only have one citation per sentence now. I have a bad sense about overciting, so I'll be happy to remove any other cases of overciting in the lead. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 22:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Tezero: (edit conflict) Will add more comments later, but my brain is kind of dead so here's some for now.

Be consistent with "H-B" vs. "Hanna-Barbera".
In section "Development and history", "X-Files" should be "The X-Files".
In section "Animation and music", is the second pull-quote necessary?
"Peter Lawrence described a need"... How is it significant that he recounted such a need? Just say "Peter Lawrence needed"...
In section "Marketing", "Wall Street Journal" should be "The Wall Street Journal".
Is the DVD release table necessary? It's only two DVDs. If anything, it should be in list form like the list of books on Megatokyo (another FA). Tezero (talk) 22:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I left 3 or 4 instances of Hanna-Barbera to account for distance between the name popping up; let me know if those should also be changed. (I'm too close to the article to know if H-B's as distinctive an acronym as I think it is.)
- Fixed X-Files.
- Second quote's integrated into prior paragraph now.
- Reworded that.
- Fixed WSJ.
- Just axed the table since the text covers it anyhow (though I added the TV Premiere title to the text). ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 23:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support; it's not right of me to be gone this long with all my issues fixed but giving no response. This has become quite a well-written and informative article in the past months. Tezero (talk) 02:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The last link to the blog containing the clips is right on the edge of WP:EL, especially considering it hosts a store selling the episodes... RN 15:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Got rid of it. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 19:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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