User talk:Wbm1058/Linked misspellings and miscapitalizations, and alternatives

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Thank you very much ...[edit]

... for all of the effort you put into cleaning up Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings. For a long time, I had kept track of the litterally millions of items that I always skipped over when patrolling the list, so it's quite a pleasant surprise to see a compact list of items that can actually be fixed. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I try to drop by now & then to clear out the more troublesome items there, as I juggle the many tasks jockeying for my attention. A longer-term project of mine is to get Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations down to manageable size as well, but just when I feel like I've made some real progress there I find more litter has been dumped on that pile. – wbm1058 (talk) 02:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If I see one I'll fix it, but you've just moved it from one disam page to another, why not fix the disam use at the same time ? SydGaz|SydGazandAdv ?? Dave Rave (talk) 07:22, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dave Rave, I have no idea what you're talking about or what prompted you to make that comment which is your first edit in two weeks. Please explain. Oh, after noting that you're Australian, I think you mean Sydney Gazette ← The Sydney Gazette And New South Wales Advertiser. An Australian editor apparently doesn't understand that "and" shouldn't be capitalized in newspaper titles. Sorry, I still don't understand what your issue with my edit(s) is though. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:32, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm Australian, and I do understand, you must be a wiki editor and don't. you've just moved it from one disam page to another. that's a hard line to comrprehend
The trouble with Trove is they don't listen when I try to tell them things like why bother providing a link to a ref that has incorrect details. But when a wiki editor trying to fix things some can't see that using a disam pag isn't the best idea and why not fix it can't see the logic in the offerering ...
click your link you provided to the SydGazAndNSWAdv and look at it, it's a disam page Dave Rave (talk) 18:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Rave: The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser is not a disambiguation page, it is a redirect. The Sydney Gazette And New South Wales Advertiser is another redirect. I used Template:No redirect to link to them so you can see the actual redirect pages. Sorry, I'm still not finding the disam page you're trying to direct me to. I have noticed that a lot of Australian articles use Trove for a reference; that's a very nice database! – wbm1058 (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom[edit]

Hi WBM, can you please stop adding "the" before United Kingdom in infoboxes? We use short country names per ISO-3166. Hope you can revert all these edits, too. Cheers, — kashmīrī TALK 23:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kashmiri: List of political parties in United Kingdom was declared to be a high-priority misspelling by WT79. Perhaps they are willing to revert my edits since they decided to take on an executive role and demand that I "fix" this non-problem. Or maybe you can move List of political parties in the United Kingdom to remove the "the" which is not in conformance with ISO-3166. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't refer to that article. I meant your mass edits to infoboxes of ~160 different articles over the last 2.5 hours. — kashmīrī TALK 00:22, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that. The purpose of my edits was to bypass the redirect from the "misspelling" that WT79 could not tolerate, in order to clear this item from Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings. Evidently they ran into one of these in an infobox. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:26, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, this sounds a bit odd to me, I'm not seeing any connection between WT79's list and parameter values in infoboxes. Anyhow, would you mind self-reverting that? — kashmīrī TALK 00:41, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly did I break by making those edits (please explain how it was broken). The infobox links now directly go to List of political parties in the United Kingdom rather than via a redirect from the alleged "misspelling" List of political parties in United Kingdom. I need a reassurance from WT79 that they won't revert my edit which reverted theirs. wbm1058 (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather move on to fixing more things which are broken than fixing something that isn't. wbm1058 (talk) 00:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Wbm1058: Sorry – didn't think about standard title forms when adding that rcat. Thanks for reverting. WT79 (speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing) 08:41, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Soda-lime glass[edit]

At Soda-lime glass, regarding incorrect and alternative. I don't dispute that in the broadest sense, the hyphen/endash thing is an alternative, but I mark it as incorrect for this reason: per the style guide, the hyphen is not the correct way. It is in need of correction to the endash. Marking it as such will allow an intrepid editor to follow those links and make the corrections in the articles where it is used incorrectly. In the same way that typos and other misspellings are, broadly speaking, alternative ways of writing a word, But they are marked as misspellings (errors needing correction) to facilitate the ongoing improvement of our encyclopedia.

I have not made the change back to incorrect, because if my understanding of the usage of incorrect punctuation is wrong, I'd like to know that before foolishly asserting I must be right. I have tried to think of examples where the punctuation is truly incorrect and not alternative. Perhaps a question mark, asterisk, or other non-dashy line would be incorrect, but such redirects would be deleted as not being useful or necessary. The only ones worth keeping are those that have a similarity in form or function.

I write too much now, so I'll stop. Plus the call from the kitchen comes that dinner is ready. I value your response. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 23:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Senator2029: Flagging it as a linked misspelling pushes it into the highest-priority work queue – note that there are 28 items in today's report, and every one of them has been fixed already, except the item you prioritized. "what links here" to "Soda-lime glass" It is not necessary to mark these to "allow an intrepid editor to follow those links and make the corrections". As I said in my edit summary, feel free to fix those 54 links yourself before you mark it. If you do it in that order, then I won't notice, and won't be bothered. The editor(s) who routinely clear away the linked-misspellings take care of the easy ones, and leave behind the "hard stuff" for someone more experienced to take care of (that would be me, see #Thank you very much ... above). My second-level priority list is the linked miscapitalizations, which has been a bear to tame, as people keep dumping more heaps of marginal miscapitalizations onto that pile. If I ever get that one down to size and have the luck to find a volunteer to keep it under control, then I might turn my attention to the hyphens and dashes. Right now they are so low priority that I don't see myself getting to them any time soon, if ever. Unless you want them to be fixed by a bot and can get a consensus to do that, then I might be willing to write and operate the bot. Then our armies of executive-level editors could force the bot to edit-war with itself by edit-warring over whether to "R from hyphen" or "R from en dash". – wbm1058 (talk) 00:42, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Adjacent stations/Busan Metro[edit]

The Busan Metro module shouldn't be linking to Dongdaegu Station; wrong system? Mackensen (talk) 22:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mackensen, yes, I guessed wrong; I reverted my edit that didn't fix it for me. The rail template systems are highly complex, making it a very annoying and time-consuming task to fix miscapitalized links to rail stations. So I guess it's Template:S-line. How do I fix {{S-line/side cell|through=|state=|branch=|next=Sasang|link=|system=Korail|line=Mugunghwa-ho|note=|type=Dongdaegu|oneway=|round=|circular={{#if:|1|}}|side=left}} so that it links directly to Dongdaegu Station rather than the {{R from miscapitalisation}} Dongdaegu station? wbm1058 (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wbm1058, it's Korail that has it wrong, so you'll want {{Korail stations}}. Mackensen (talk) 23:28, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mackensen: Thanks. THIS was the edit I intended to make earlier. It worked (on e.g. Gijang station). – wbm1058 (talk) 00:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also needed to edit {{KSR stations}} – wbm1058 (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Kitcher edit[edit]

It makes no difference to me, but I'm curious why you made your most recent edit to the link to "Secular Humanism." Since Secular Humanism automatically jumps to Secular humanism, what is wrong with leaving it as Secular Humanism?Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did that to clear the link from the Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations report. It was there because User:WurmWoode marked it as a miscapitalization with this 29 December 2018 edit. The alternative would be to revert WurmWoode's edit. You will note that there are a lot of uses of title case on that list and I wish other editors were less hardcore about marking such things as flat-out wrong in all usage on Wikipedia ({{R from miscapitalisation}}) rather than simply cases of {{R from other capitalisation}}. – wbm1058 (talk) 02:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I made that edit according to the body of the article, as well as the very text of the Declaration, the only capitalization occurs when secular begins a sentence— it seems akin to discussing a good christian versus the Christian religion. Correct me if I am wrong. WurmWoodeT 10:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Your explanation is over my head, but that's ok. The more important question is, in general as opposed to in this specific instance, when linking a phrase to its Wikipedia entry, if the capitalization in the Wikipedia entry is different, is it necessary to do what you did even though the link takes you to the Wikipedia entry without doing what you did?Maurice Magnus (talk) 09:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maurice Magnus:Is it necessary to change John A. MacDonald to John A. Macdonald or Lebron James to LeBron James, or should we not care whether a person's name is capitalized differently than in the article title of their biography? If we don't care about that then we can eliminate the Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations report and ask editors to work on something different. – wbm1058 (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MZMcBride: Can Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations/Configuration be tweaked to disregard cases where the linked miscapitalization is not actually displayed to the reader but is just piped to different text? I could play with the SQL in Quarry to try to make that happen but you can probably do that faster than it would take me to figure it out. FYI, THIS is my edit which was questioned above. wbm1058 (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not fixing it[edit]

Hi, wbm1058, I hope you are keeping well in these dangerous times? I saw this edit (I watch a number of dog articles), and wondered a little. Doesn't our advice here suggest that we avoid by-passing redirects? Anyway, just to let you know that I've moved the target page back to Dogo Cubano, the same capitalisation as all our other dog breed articles. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Justlettersandnumbers: as a fellow sysop you should have noticed the history of the redirect that you moved over the top of. Actually I should have looked at that myself:
Tagging it with {{R from other capitalization}} puts it in the "DONOTFIXIT" category.
So your issue is with Mr. McCandlish, not me. Though had I noticed it was him who tagged it, I probably would have wanted to double-check for a consensus on the matter.
I'm rather annoyed at the clan of editors who are so sure of themselves that they fail to recognize potentially controversial moves when they see them, and act boldly rather than starting a discussion. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Should remain lower-case, since it's Spanish, and cubano (like other adjectives derived from proper names) is not capitalized in Spanish; and we have zero evidence of this ever being established as a standardized, formalized breed with such a name, rather than simply being a landrace of dogs common at one time on Cuba. This is the same kind of case as people wanting to over-capitalize "Roman War Dog" on the WP:OR hypothesis that it's a breed in the modern sense. The only reason we capitalize modern standardized breeds (and took years of squabbling and a WP:VPPOL RfC to even permit that exception to MOS:LIFE) is because the authoritative sources on them, the written breed standards that establish them in the first place, do so. Such breeds are akin to published works. If there is no written breed standard for some extinct variety, then there is no basis for capitalizing it (especially not against standard usage in the actual language of the phrase).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can "Incorrect" names be "printworthy"?[edit]

Fixing miscapitalized redirect links[edit]

My suggestion was made at the Administrators' noticeboard

Thanks for the suggestion. I wasn't aware of that list at Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations. Looks useful. Should be straightward to do simple automatic fixes, but I see already that complications do come up, e.g. in this edit, there's a novel probably-over-capitalized piped link. Is that why you find it a lot of work? Would it be useful to just resolve the links without worrying about the rest, or would that be a wasted opportunity in terms of fixing the real problems. What's your strategy and process on such things? Dicklyon (talk) 18:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also went through and did the big one, Croix de guerre. It took dozens of replace patterns, and I probably still didn't get everything quite right, but knocked off over 500 changes for the better, I hope. Mostly capitalizing, but a few the other way. Dicklyon (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Hi Dick. Sorry for the slow response; I hadn't gotten around to posting on your talk yet. Do you use WP:NAVPOPS? I suggest installing that for this task. Installation instructions on the top of the WP:NAVPOPS page. Back in 2015, I learned how to amp up the usefulness of that gadget. Initially I just used it for link disambiguation, but later I added fixing misspellings and miscapitalizations to the mix.
I think that's all you need to do to install this, unless I've forgotten something.
Now for the first demonstration. Go back to Adrian Lillebekk Ovlien where I reverted you. If installed correctly that bad link is now highlighted in pink.
Hover over the pink link and POPUPS pops up showing a line Redirects to: (Fix target or target & label)
Click on either "target" or "target & label" and a Show changes screen automatically pops up showing the diff, with your edit summary auto-filled by POPUPS. If everything looks good, just save the changes. I just did that. Rather than fix the capitalization I just bypassed the redirect, since it's a piped link. Feel free to revert me and try it yourself.
Yes I also use JWB for some of these, especially the ones with lots of links. – wbm1058 (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I might try those, but for now I'm still getting use to JWB. And what about where that link is piped to "2nd Division"? Is there a reason for capitalized Division there? Do you also look at and decide about such things? Also note the Norwegian Second Division is itself over-capitalized, but that's another story. See Talk:Norwegian First Division#Over-capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I rarely second-guess the community consensus on capitalization, but sometimes I might change a redirect tagged {{R from miscapitalization}} to {{R from other capitalization}} rendering the links to be "not a problem". – wbm1058 (talk) 21:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The community didn't specifically look at the capitalization here. This happens often, where someone sees a reason to move to a different name, but doesn't realize that we use sentence case for titles, and nobody notices until after it happens. Dicklyon (talk) 23:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dicklyon, Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings is a similar list which I personally give a higher priority. Some quiet gnome IP kept that under control for a long time, it used to be almost always under 50 items, but it seems the IP has either taken a break or quit doing the task, so now it's got about 200 items in it. Any one of these lists by itself may be manageable for a single editor or two, but in aggregate when all of them have backlogs, that's what makes them – in aggregate – a lot of work. You abandon one task to go work on another, and then when you check back in, you see that nobody picked up the ball you dropped. – wbm1058 (talk) 21:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did a bunch of these miscapped links, and passed you up on Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/1–1000. Dicklyon (talk) 05:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This link case fixing is harder than I had imagined. Slow going. Dicklyon (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working on Applied Mathematics. It's a bitch! So many linkages from parts of proper names like "Institute of Applied Mathematics". Is there some guideline about how such things ought to be done? Delink it? Pipe it? Something else? Dicklyon (talk) 23:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes I delink per WP:OVERLINK. Sometimes I pipe. Rarely someone reverts my pipe (because "redirects are cheap!"), which is annoying. Academic disciplines are a bother because capitalization of them is widespread. I'm inclined to be more flexible on stuff like this, it's why there's a {{r from other capitalization}} – but there's a lot more editors making edits like THIS rather than fixing the pages that such edits demand to be fixed. Those editors seem to think the human bots that make the fixes grow on trees. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And probably nobody checks whether the "miscapitalization" tag enjoys consensus or not before we work on fixing. Not a very robust system, is it? Dicklyon (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this kind of work is regarded as "pointless", per WP:AN/I#Dicklyon and pointless edits once again. Dicklyon (talk) 03:11, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would have tagged Habsburg Monarchy as {{R from other capitalisation}} and then it wouldn't have shown up on the error report at all – making the changes to the piped links unnecessary. This would have saved you yet another trip to the notice boards. Given Ngrams suggests it's a proper name, I would have opposed the move had I noticed that you started that RM discussion. I don't spend a lot of time on the drama boards but my thoughts are similar to the Canadian's on this matter. I notice you have yet to even bother to "fix" the lead sentence in the target article. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:43, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As pointed out at the RM, n-grams very much suggests that it's not a proper name. Most of the caps uses are in citations to book titles and such; nowhere near consistently capped in sources. And yes I should have done the target article first; just did that. Whatever you think of this particular case, I'd be interested in what you think of working on links through miscapped redirects more generally. Looks like I need to stay away from it. Dicklyon (talk) 04:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
and it's now tagged as "other". I had it at "mis" at the right time to get a snap of its big number to show at ANI. Fun place. Dicklyon (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

advice for Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations[edit]

Hello! I've been going through the list of miscapitalisations, initially on this account but I've now created an alternative account for maintainance edits. So far, I've been clicking the link to each page, clicking edit, and searching for the miscapitalisation before changing it. This is fairly quick, but I imagine there are some tools which can make that sort of repetitive edit faster. Do you have any advice on the best tools to use? Many Thanks, and have a good day!

– DirkJandeGeer щи 09:37, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I use WP:Javascript Wiki Browser this and other bulk tasks. Dicklyon (talk) 23:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @DirkJandeGeer: Sorry for the belated reply. HERE I explained my use of WP:NAVPOPS to Dick, maybe you'll be more interested in that, which is more handy for the one-off fixes rather than the mass-edits. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:21, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! no worries on the late reply, I find Navigation Popups is quite useful for Recent Changes patrolling as well. Have a good one!
    – DirkJandeGeer щи 11:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently working to clear this list can get you in hot water, as it did me. See Wikipedia talk:Redirect#RFC on NOTBROKEN interpretation for why people don't want you replacing piped links to miscapitalized redirects. Dicklyon (talk) 22:47, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bypassing redirects[edit]

I see that many of your recent edits are using an automated tool to modify links that point to a redirect, changing them to the exact name of the target. Such links are not broken and should not be changed without good reason, see the guideline WP:NOTBROKEN. There's no need to undo those edits, but please don't make mass changes that are contrary to guidelines. Modest Genius talk 13:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Genius, I'm working to clear the database report Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations. These are broken because they've been tagged with {{R from miscapitalisation}}. If they're not broken they should have been tagged with {{R from other capitalisation}}. wbm1058 (talk) 19:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, it seems like this can be used as an end-around to institute controversial changes. Are you verifying these individually? For example, Indigenous Land Use Agreement is listed, but it redirects to a section that explicitly uses the acronym ILUA, and I doubt anyone is checking for template changes on these redirects. Developmental neurobiology was another that popped up in looking at the first half of the list. All of the links to developmental neurobiology intend Development of the nervous system, not the capitalized journal; the link itself is not a miscapitalization, nor is the redirect.... (In this case, perhaps the redirect should just be retargeted.) Dekimasuよ! 00:44, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you've found some edits by the usual suspects. Note the previous discussions about miscapitalizations at /Linked misspellings and miscapitalizations, and alternatives and #Fixing miscapitalized redirect links. Yes I review my edits. Occasionally I get reverted, but also, pleasantly surprised to see who backed me up! – wbm1058 (talk) 17:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This task is a long slog, made longer when you find that this edit was needed to clear the bad-link to Doctor who from The Snowmen – unnecessary obscurity through template coding. I needed to make a copy in my sandbox to sleuth that one out. That page is but one of several "one-offs" that slow me down for various reasons. – wbm1058 (talk) 19:34, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That does not necessarily mean that the link is broken, in the sense of WP:NOTBROKEN. It could also mean that the redirect has been wrongly categorised. Database reports do not trump editorial judgement, and should not be used blindly. I doubt many editors are familiar with the subtle difference between those two redirect tags. Please check whether each error is with the redirect tag, rather than the links in articles. Modest Genius talk 14:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is why I have not written a bot to automatically bypass these redirects. I sometimes lower the severity to "not broken", for example with this edit to Colorlines. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ColorLines[edit]

It was the old style, e.g. [1], [2]. More of a FYI than anything else. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:03, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Linked miscapitalisations[edit]

Thank you for all the good work on fixing miscapitalisations (linked or not). I do something similar with misspellings, and I'm never sure what to do with errors which are the target of piped links, e.g. [[Nordic Countries|countries that are Nordic]]. It's debatable whether they're WP:NOTBROKEN and I wouldn't criticise anyone for fixing them, but I tend to skip them myself. Incidentally, I've engaged with a couple of Kung Hibbe socks and think I can recognise them now; their editing patterns differ very obviously from ours. Merry Christmas, Certes (talk) 19:07, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Certes: Belated thanks. I fix the piped links because they show up on the Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations report, and I want to get them off that list. You can't tell just from looking at the list which are piped and which aren't. It's a lot of work to keep that list clean and I agree that priority should be given to the links that are visible to readers, so it would be nice if the Quarry query could be tweaked to remove the piped links or move them off to a lower-priority list. – wbm1058 (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Those reports are handy: I use Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings. Unfortunately, the displayed text isn't stored in the database, so it's not possible to show whether a link is piped. (Indeed, it may be both piped and unpiped, if an article refers to [[New york]] in one place and [[New york|NY]] elsewhere.) The only way I can think of doing it would be for a bot (or a semi-automated process on someone's PC) to go through the report, load each page, and confirm that an unpiped link exists. That would also eliminate time-wasting links via templates etc. Certes (talk) 22:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

For this -- I was wondering about that myself when I looked through the database report for linked miscapitalizations. I had excluded a few of them because it was obviously going to give false positives, bt I guess I must have missed a couple (like this)... good catch. jp×g 22:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: Yes, thanks – I also made this related edit. Also, this Assemblée nationale edit and this Macedonian Question edit. And I created Imperial Guard (disambiguation) because imperial guard doesn't look like a disambiguation and doesn't conform to WP:DDD. Sometimes I need to second-guess the judgment of the executives who decide what's not acceptable capitalization, few if any of whom are actually administrators. See the earlier discussion here #Bypassing redirects. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, the "Assemblée nationale" redirect being put in the database report is a ludicrous mistake. I think that maybe Wikipedia:Database_reports/Linked_miscapitalizations should use {{Redirect and target}} for stuff like this so that these whoppers can be avoided. jp×g 23:27, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
One more edit I just made. Be careful when de-capitalizing terms that the lower-case advocates deem to not be Proper Names that you usually want to decap the first letter of the title unless it's starting a new sentence or in the infobox. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:16, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Right Wing goofs[edit]

Response to this 19:05, 24 April 2023 edit and this 19:17, 24 April 2023 edit

Sorry, I didn't check carefully enough when downcasing a bunch of sports positions. Thanks for catching. I'll look for what else links to that bad title in case there are more. Dicklyon (talk) 01:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fun down under[edit]

Response to this 16:01, 30 April 2023 edit

Yes, still working, having fun, and editing, as you noticed. I'm working 70% time, and taking some 2-week vacations to travel. This leaves a few extra days per week to explore my neighborhood, and I've been staying in CBD, Balmain, Woolloomooloo, Manly, and Pyrmont, for several weeks each. See User:Dicklyon#Pyrmont and the Inner West for recent work. There are still a few hours in the evening to work on mass capitalization fixes. Dicklyon (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the US now, I've added a bunch to the list of miscapitalizations, with higher numbers than I expected, due to templates, so I worked on those. It seems they might take a while to propagate to the "What links here" list. Hopefully the numbers will go down to very low in a day or so. Dicklyon (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers are coming down a bit due to template updates. But I get some pushback when I fix just piped miscapitalized redirects; what's your opinion on those? Dicklyon (talk) 21:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: I'm not clear on what you're talking about, can you give me some examples? wbm1058 (talk) 21:42, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I got this NOTBROKEN complaint about edits such as this one, where the only benefit is reducing the count of miscapitalizations (well, fixing it also makes it easier to find and process more significant ones). Dicklyon (talk) 21:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dicklyon: I see. You recently moved 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – CAF Second Round and immediately declared it a miscapitalization. You could avoid this issue by just declaring such uses of Title Case valid alternative capitalizations. I prefer focusing on miscapitalizations that cannot be construed as valid uses of title case. I know, Wikipedia endeavors to avoid title case but I have way too many more serious issues in my backlog, which insufficient others are helping with, to ever make correcting "misuse" of title case a priority. If the SQL that generates the miscaps database report could be enhanced to not complain about such piped links (i.e. report them in the list) that might help. I can muddle out SQL queries but I'm not real handy with making more sophisticated queries. – wbm1058 (talk) 22:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most items on the list are about like that. Maybe I should ignore the list, then, and not mark things as miscapitalizations. Dicklyon (talk) 00:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See also: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1129 § User: Dicklyon, behavioral issues on the topic of capitalization
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