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Editing Doctor Who Page

I'm sorry about making the changes without realizing the procedure of verifing. My source is I would think the best one, The BBC/Doctor Who page. I made myself a Doctor Who program guide from the BBC's information. So that's the source of my info. One thing though, I don't know how to list the virification within the code. I tried to read about it, but it just seamed to go in circles.

All my info comes from either the BBC or here at Wikipedia.

Once again I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I hope you will accept my apology and allow me to make future changes of the story numbers, and any dates that may contain errors. (EX: Season 23 is the "Trial of a Time Lord" which is posted as one story here on Wikipedia, but it really is 4 stories. It just has a central theme that ties them together, but they are really 4 seperate stories.)

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Hi, see my response on the talk page of your IP address. umrguy42 14:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Cards-Mets rivalry

I don't have much details about the Cardinals-Mets rivalry, other than the fact that the two reigned exclusively as NL East champions from 1985 to 1988 and that their division championships sandwiched the NL East championships by the Chicago Cubs in 1984 and 1989 and the showdowns in the NLCS in 2000 and 2006.

You should know that geographical and divisional rivalries will always be there, no matter how fierce they are. Other than that, it is historical. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 20:24, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't know all the details, but I do know that there was some definite "bad blood" between the two teams in the 80s, just thought if enough stuff could be found on the details, and the whys and incidents between the two clubs, it might make for a good article, which is why I suggested it. umrguy42 14:56, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If the two teams meet more often in the playoffs, then we can have an article on the rivalry. One historical rivalry article I've been working on is the one between the Philadelphia Phillies and the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yes, there was blood between the two teams during the 1970s and 1980s, but the rivalry, before it ended at the end of the 1993 season when the Pirates moved to the Central Division, featured elements that are seen between the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers of the NBA in the 1980s and continues to today and the New Jersey Devils and the Philadelphia Flyers of the NHL today: two teams reigning exclusively as champions during a certain era and accumulating the two highest numbers of championships. The Phillies and Pirates had the two highest numbers of NL East championships during two-division era, and the Devils and Flyers have won the two highest numbers of Atlantic Division championships. – SNIyer12, (talk), 15:03, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See, I don't know that a rivalry has to depend on just meeting in the playoffs, or that there's some cutoff - I mean, Cards-Cubs is a BIG rivalry, even though I'm not sure they've EVER met in the postseason. Rivalry can be geographical, playoff based, or possibly start over some handful of incidents that incite the players and fans to just plain not like each other (obviously, also combinations of the above) umrguy42 18:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Your reply about Cardinals' rivalries

I just saw an article about the rivalry between the Cincinnati Reds and the St. Louis Cardinals. That rivalry goes back to when the two teams entered play in the late 1800's. However, it cooled off during the two-division era, when the two teams were in different divisions, but reignited when the two teams came back to the same division. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 18:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When I put the section on the rivalry between the Astros and Cardinals at Major League Baseball rivalries article, Ultimahero (talk) removed it, but I added it again, but Ultimahero wanted it removed because the user felt it was an INSIGNIFICANT rivalry and it exists due to just division realignment. You might want to bring this attention up on that user's talk page. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 18:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When I added the section about the Red-Cardinals rivalry at the MLB rivalries article. Ultimahero (talk) removed it, saying that it ended with the 1969 realignment, but came back in the 1994 realignment. Can you please discuss this situation on that user talk's page, as I feel it should be there, since it has rekindled, but Ultimahero doesn't think so, because it exists only due to realignment. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 02:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think this rivalry is significant? When I added this rivalry at Major League Baseball rivalries, User:Ultimahero removed it, because the user felt that it was an INSIGNIFICANT rivalry and that it existed only until the 1969 realignment. – SNIyer12, (talk), 20:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reds-Cards rivalry

Looks like it was in fact earlier than that, 1882 in baseball has the St. Louis Brown Stockings against the Cincinnati Red Legs. Both are previous names of the Cards and Reds. Arnabdas (talk) 20:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it was Red Stockings. These were the AA games. Arnabdas (talk) 20:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just because they played each other in 1882 does *not* mean the rivalry (if there is one) has existed since then, other than in the most generic sense that EVERY baseball team has a "rivalry" with every other team it competes with (hardly notable). umrguy42 20:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The rivalry obviously exists as stated by the sourced documents. I was just trying to illustrate that the teams have squared off against one another since the beginning days of baseball, unlike some of the modern day rivalries such as Rays-Marlins or even before that, anything with the Mets, since they started play in 62. Arnabdas (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Which sourced documents are you referring to? And again, the fact that they've played against each other doesn't necessarily equate to a rivalry. I don't know off the top of my head they've played the Dodgers or the Giants, but probably for at least a century - doesn't mean that there are rivalries there either. umrguy42 20:50, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Wall Street Journal article is the source there. The rivalry just was renewed in 2010, but it has been going on for years. The fact they have a long rivalry is without question. I was not trying to establish that they have a rivalry because they played each other for 100 years, I was saying they have an established rivalry...and btw they've played each other for 100 years. Arnabdas (talk) 13:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Well, see several of my comments on the talk page about concerns, but in addition, that last part is irrelevant on a page about the rivalry itself - at best, you could only say the rivalry stems from the '60s. However, I'm still not sure it's a "notable" enough rivalry - or even that it was a real one in the '60s, as opposed to some temporary bad blood. umrguy42 15:58, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Reds-Cards rivalry

Although the rivalry article was in deletion discussion, there was only one reason why I felt the need to redirect to Major League Baseball rivalries: User:Ultimahero (talk) doesn't think it's a significant rivalry. When I put the section on the rivalry at MLB rivalries, Ultimahero removed it, saying it's INSIGNIFICANT. – SNIyer12, (talk), 15:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Even so, it's still inappropriate to do so in the middle of an AFD. umrguy42 15:56, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't tell you, sorry, I'm not as active as I used to be. Check the page history. umrguy42 14:02, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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