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I am new to this , Im not familiar to the whole editing process yet, but regarding the article of ArdeshirI , I must say we can not include assumptions into historical articles like these,Shahnameh is not a reliable historical source since as we all know Shahnameh is based on a mixture of historical and mythical events ,also it is known that the language of the Sassanid dynasty was Middle Persian which is the ancestry language of modern Persian NOT Kurdish , the Persian language belongs to the south western branch of Iranian languages while Kurdish or Median both belong to North western Iranian languages , so If we asume that Ardeshir I Sassanid was a Kurd then he must have had a North Iranian language as mother tounge not south western Iranian or Persian .

Also there are way too many sources such as the exchanged diplomatic letters bewtween Sasanid Royals and Chinese, Arabic and Byzantine officials where clearly the term King of Persia or Pars are used , If the Sassanids had Kurdish lineage surely they would have rejected to this usage . One example is Constantine Augustus letter to Shapur ,where he clearly sates , CONSTANTINE AUGUSTUS TO SAPOR, KING OF THE PERSIANS

Other reliable sources are Chinese sources ,like the story of Pirooz written in a formal and ancient aristocratic Chinese language. It was quite tough, but with the help of my Chinese friends and associates I got through it. It was written by Prince Nah-shieh (Narseh), who was the son of Prince Pirooz, who was the son of King Yazdgerd III-- the last Sasanid king of Persia. Narseh was a Chinese general stationed in the Tang Chinese military garrisons in what are today's Afghanistan, Tajikistan and parts of Uzbekistan.

In 751 A.D., the Chinese lost a decisive battle to the Arabs at Talas (now in Uzbekistan), and they retreated from their colonies in Central Asia. All the garrisons shut down, and the armies fled back into China. Many Persians and Sogdians followed the Chinese back into China and abandoned their homes in Central Asia in wake of the Muslim Arabic invasions. Some Sogdians came as widows who then married Chinese soldiers along with their orphaned children.

Pirooz requested only a simple burial and the Chinese emperor approved. The entire exiled court was in attendance along with the Chinese emperor. The Chinese emperor held Peroz's shaking hands. Pirooz looked west and said:

"I have done what I could for my homeland (Persia) and I have no regrets." Then, he looked east and said: "I am grateful to China, my new homeland." Then he looked at his immediate family and all the Persians in attendance and said: "Contribute your talents and devote it to the emperor. We are no longer Persians. We are now Chinese." 

Then, he died peacefully. A beautiful horse was made to gallop around his coffin 33 times before burial, because this was the number of military victories he had during his lifetime. Pirooz was a great Chinese general and great Persian prince devoted and loyal to his people.

Notice that Persians are mentioned as Barsi in this scipt , due the lack of Letter P in Chinese language .yet clearly Persians are separated from Parthians , Scythians and of course Medians in all sources from Arabic to Indian, Chinese, Roman and Budheist .

Material you removed, talk pages[edit]

I've replaced some of the material you removed. One important part of editing is communicating through the use of an WP:Edit summary, and it's normal to replace sourced material that's been removed without explanation. I see you've used this page to explain some of your edits, but the proper place for that is the talk page of the article, at Talk:Ardashir I. I've done that for you right now, copying it to the talk page. Please always sign with 4 tildes, ~~~~ - you can click on them if you can find them in the text below this edit window. Now your edits. I think you need to read WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY and WP:RS carefully and justify them against those policies and guidelines. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 05:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, TruthPosterIrani. You have new messages at Dougweller's talk page.
Message added 08:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

We may not disagree at all about the content, I'm concerned about the fact that you aren't explaining your edits (and combined with your username it tends to start ringing alarm bells, justified or not, if I were you I'd start a new account with a new username, linking it to the old one - we even have a phrase "Verifiability, not truth" because we present different points of view and sometimes no one can agree on the truth, see WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV. Dougweller (talk) 08:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]