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a thank you note[edit]

Thanks for participating in my RfA!
Although it failed 43/27/0, I'm happy because the outcome has been very helpful in many meaningful ways. Your support and remarks contributed so much to this. If you followed my RfA you know what happened. Most of the editors who posted opposing opinions have never edited with me. Some articles I edit deal with controversial topics and with respect to a very few of these, editors who didn't know much about me had some worries about confrontational editing and civility. Since I support their high standards I can easily (and will gladly) address this. The support and ecouragement to run again soon has been wonderful, thanks again. Cheers! Gwen Gale (talk) 05:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barn-ey[edit]

Thanks for the (in lieu of) barnstar. Kakofonous (talk) 01:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with warning templates[edit]

When we revert vandalism by someone who already received a level 4 warning, any other warnings make it seem like, "Oh, we didn't really mean it when we said that was your last warning," like the parent who says, "This is the last time I'm going to tell you" five times before taking action. What about something like this?[1]. I'd like some feedback on this as a possible template for non-admins to use when they revert past a level 4 warning. Thanks. Doczilla (talk) 10:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work. I like it. Trusilver 17:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. Of the handful of AIV-experienced people I checked with, I got 4 yeas and 3 nays -- a majority favoring it but certainly not a consensus. The naysayers made some smart points, and if the AIV process consistently worked as smoothly and as quickly as possible, I might be more inclined to drop this idea based on their thoughts. Of course, something like this doesn't have to appeal to everybody. I guess I'll run this by people who check the talk page for the Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings. Thanks again. Doczilla (talk) 03:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
At the suggestion of User:Master of Puppets, I've opened the discussion up at WT:AIV#Past-last_warning. Thanks again! Doczilla (talk) 03:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Damn you sinebot...[edit]

made me laugh out loud in my watchlist. You do realize you can opt out of sinebot? Just add the {{NoAutosign}} tag to the bottom of your userpage. Cheers, Keeper | 76 22:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • laughs* I know, but it keeps me honest. When I see the activity in an article I just edited, it makes me realize that I forgot to sign something. :) Trusilver 00:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only hoodoo[edit]

Is it fun that to sweep what your intellect could not dissolve? To remove the articles which stands on reason will not mean your understanding must exist.--220.98.236.108 (talk) 07:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clever play with words, however your article was deleted because it did not assert notability. Have a good day. Trusilver 07:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible to Speed that image as well?[edit]

The one the vandal was inserting, it has copyright tag on it, and no status showing. If you are unsure which I speak of I can link it. Dureo (talk) 08:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh beat me to the punch :P Dureo (talk) 08:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, wasn't me. Somebody else got it before I could. Trusilver 08:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


the Greek Gods[edit]

Hey man, not cool. You went and deleted before i finished typing my explanation. If you would be so kind to undo that so i can put the significane, which there is, i would be eternally gracious. It was mainly a mistake of mine that I saved the page before fully completing it. I was too anxious to have it posted. Thats my mistake, I should have made sure it met ALL criteria before saving it to prevent something like this happening. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limonns (talkcontribs) 02:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it took me so long to respond was that I wanted to completely research the subject of this article before making a decision. The article you have created has only a single source which names "The Greek Gods" without context or details. Only a single sentence even pays mention to them. Even the name itself is suspect seeing that the entire article is founded only on what "Cle Sloan" said, which fails notability for lack of "multiple non-trivial sources". Trusilver 02:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thats fine. I guess the fact that I found a source containing their name finally allowed me to make what I thought was a just article based on some things I had heard. I see where you're coming from. Also, no problem about the late response, and thanks for at least looking into reverting the article. Sorry about the mistake. Limonns (talk) 02:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, have a good evening. :) Trusilver 02:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tgannon[edit]

I noticed your comments on User talk:Tgannon in regards to his unblock review. I'm halfway tempted to shorten his block to maybe a month or less. If I decide to do this, how do I note this on his talk page? It's not really an "accept", but it's not really a "decline" either. You'll have to excuse me, I'm a very new admin. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 03:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Usually when I do this, what I do is put it as "Accept". But then stipulate afterward that this is not an unblock but a shortening of the block to the desired timeframe. And I would probably shorten it down to a week or so myself. His edits do appear to be in good faith even if he needs to stop trying to brute force something into an article and talk about it instead. Trusilver 03:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I think I did it right. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 03:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm support #14. Here's hoping you speak better Romanian than I do... Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 09:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the Barnstar Trusilver.  Dust Rider  Talk  19:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks[edit]

I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your comments, which I will take on board. I look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 21:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

jdchamp31[edit]

It is not appreciated how you treat me on your talk page. It would be really nice as an administrator for you to maybe step in to help the situation instead of telling me how sick of it you are. Jdchamp31 (talk) 22:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have a better idea. How about you really try to work with others instead of reporting them to WP:AIV and calling it harassment for simply not agreeing with you. Trusilver 23:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check the edit history on his talk page. I am trying to compromise. Jdchamp31 (talk) 23:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He refuses to compromise Jdchamp31 (talk) 00:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me. Stop doing what you are doing and wait to see what happens. ONLY report him when he is clearly in violation of policy. If you have any doubt about it, send me a message and I will take a look at it. But he's clearly unwilling to come to any kind of compromise, so I will take it on a case by case basis from here on out. Trusilver 00:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I want to get formal mediation I am trying Jdchamp31 (talk) 00:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you start with the Mediation Cabal. If you start a case there, I will pick it up. That is a good first stop on the way toward formal mediation and eventually arbitration. Trusilver 00:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I filed it Jdchamp31 (talk) 00:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response[edit]

Look at his response. Is that appropriate? Jdchamp31 (talk) 00:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Had him blocked for 31 Hours Jdchamp31 (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Edit Summary - 00:31, 1 February 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Squiggleslash‎ (→One more time... nicely. - Reponse: Please do. I dare you. Grow a pair. You should have blocked Jdchamp two weeks ago.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdchamp31 (talkcontribs)

User:Squiggleslash[edit]

User:Squiggleslash has sent me a question on this by private email during the night. Very early this morning I answered that I was willing to unblock if he could answer one question on the comments he made. I have not received any response (6 hours later). I will unblock based on your recommendation as I believe you to be correct. Thx. -- Alexf42 17:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you. Trusilver 17:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Trusilver, I am trying to work with him but he continues to refuse. What should I do. Jdchamp31 (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Trusilver, I see you just deleted the above article per A7. I don't think it is A7, and IMHO is notable enough for its own article. Would you consider restoring it? Ryan Postlethwaite 02:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I weakly disagree, but I'm apathetic enough about it not to care :). In other words....sure, why not. Trusilver 02:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Still, I don't see anything about it that makes it appear even half-assedly notable. I'm going to spend a couple days looking for sources when I can. If I can't find anything else to go into the article, I'm going to AfD it. We'll see what happens. Trusilver 02:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I dno, I think notability is established because it's a character in a notable anime. I'd certainly welcome an AfD though just to make sure. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a page of characters from that anime? I would certainly be happier to see one article outlining them all rather than a whole load of poorly-written stubs. Trusilver 02:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I agree - have you got a list of the characters? Ryan Postlethwaite 02:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have the slightest clue. All of my knowledge about this anime came from googleing it before CSD'ing it. Trusilver 03:17, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

email[edit]

Hey Trusilver. I wrote you an email. :) —αἰτίας discussion 14:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied. Trusilver 16:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Replied, too. :) —αἰτίας discussion 00:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reidweaver[edit]

Can you please review my comments on User talk:Reidweaver? Thanks, Bovlb (talk) 07:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I might be a little bit cynical, but I am always suspicious of a new account whose first action is to post a link. I read the link that was posted, and I don't see anything about it that suggests it was anything other than a new user with COI issues promoting his site. Are you seeing something I'm not? Trusilver 07:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it's a new user with COI issues, but coupled with utter confusion as to what he was being warned about. I'd say that merits a clearer warning, rather than an indefinite block. Bovlb (talk) 07:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My position on it is generally apathetic. It's not a terribly clear case of spam linking, so I'm not going to push a position to keep the block in place. If you decide to unblock, I will not oppose it. Trusilver 08:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Ken Lashley[edit]

Hello, I notice that you've removed the page on comics artist Ken Lashley, despite it being linked to from over a dozen other articles... I don't think I had as yet had any input into that page, but I did intend to, so if you could clarify what was on the page-as-deleted; what was missing and what will be required on the future page, that would be of considerable help, please. ntnon (talk) 20:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article was very short and lacked context. It had no references and did not assert notability of the subject. I suggest you really read up on WP:BIO before rewriting the article. If you have any questions or need any help, feel free to ask me. Trusilver 16:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BRC[edit]

We've recently opened membership up to the editing community at large, so if you know any badasses, feel free to invite them. GlassCobra 07:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- TRANSMISSION ENDS -

Jeztheman response[edit]

Hi Trusilver,

You left this message on the UserTalk page for Jeztheman ;

"I have deleted Syonide and Urban Bunny EP on the basis that they do fulfill the qualifications..."

You mean because they don't fulfill...right?

Thanks Berean Hunter (talk) 09:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes... that's what I meant. Trusilver 16:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Realty Technologies[edit]

Yes, you deleted an article saying that it is porpesed advertisement, when I am only writing the article to put information about the company out to the public. I didn't understand how it could be advertisement when I am not advertising any services, products, etc. The only thing remotly close to begin advertising is their objective, but that is their objective. Webgfx (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a medium for advertising a company. There are untold numbers of companies out there in the world, and only a fraction of them pass the guidelines for notability outlined in WP:CORP. Realty Technologies had nothing in the article or in a google search that asserted anything close to the required notability to have an article written about it. Trusilver 16:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A group of people have brought an off-wiki dispute to Wikipedia, this dispute includes real-world legal action and has prompted complaints ot the Foundation. This user is one of a group fo single purpose accounts with no history outside this subject. I blocked the lot. Guy (Help!) 16:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thank you. Trusilver 17:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ANI thread (blocks by JzG)[edit]

Hi there. I've made a strong criticism of you in an ANI thread. My concerns can be seen here. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 23:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A strong criticism? I like your grasp of adjectives. Why not a "huge" criticism, or perhaps a "major" criticism. Because after reading it, it seems to me to be, at most, a moderate criticism. Trusilver 03:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if you like. I thought it was a strong criticism because I am particularly sensitive to block reviews being independent. I think (please correct me if I'm wrong) that you (like me) thought this looked strange, but thought it best to check with Guy first (like I tried to do by e-mail). All fine so far. The bit where I am critical is where you missed the opportunity to say "but hang on, she does have editing history outside the article in question, are you sure you are right?". That would be you remaining independent and performing your function of questioning his block. Where you lost your independence was when you decided to not do that, and instead agreed with him, I suspect because of the scary-sounding mention of the Foundation and legal action. At least you did say "per the blocking admin", which makes clear who to direct any further queries to. It would still, in such cases, be better to mark as "unresolved", rather than denied, and say that the blocking admin themselves need to get involved and explain directly to the user in question what the problem is. At the very least, you should have explained what the next step in the appeal process should have been. Always consider how to help inexperienced editors who may not know this sort of thing. That's my view anyway. I'm happy to discuss this further if you want, I'll keep an eye out on this page. Carcharoth (talk) 06:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you are asking with an independent review "would I have made the same decision had I been in Guy's shoes?" The answer is no. I prefer to monitor accounts like that and wait for them to slip up rather than block them outright. If, however, you are asking "do I find fault in Guy's judgment as blocking admin?' The answer would also be no. A little more harsh than I would have been, for certain. But not out of line, I'm always very suspicious of users who come out of the woodwork after long periods of time to suddenly latch onto disputed articles. And given a review, I guess I was in a hurry and (under normal circumstances) would have gone into a more in-depth explanation as to why I was declining and what to do next. That is where a 50 word email or message on my talk page would be a great tool to use to ask me to rethink something. I have very little use for (and this addresses your comment below as well) page upon page of bureaucratic hilarity on AN/I; very many things can be accomplished with a hundred words as easily as they can be with five thousand. I have no doubt that you are very well intentioned and eager to shift policy in the direction of doing what you see as "the right thing." That's admirable, but my personal views are that Wikipedia needs far less bureaucracy and not more -- I have no interest whatsoever in the discussion of layer upon layer of useless talk that in the end will go nowhere, or for those that perpetuate such things. Not to say I fault you for doing what you are doing, or even that I disagree with it, but only that I don't participate in these little acts of self-crucifixion.
In the end it always seems easier to say "Here's a problem...fix it. move on...repeat." Trusilver 18:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Trusilver, when you say you don't find fault in Guy's judgment as blocking admin, are you referring to the block you declined the unblock request for - the block of Amelia9mm? You participated in the ANI thread, so you knew that Amelia9mm had been unblocked, and you made your feelings clear there. What you might not be aware of is that Guy has apologised for the block. That was at 12:09, which was before your user talk page post above at 18:31. Amelia's response (at 20:21) to a question from me can be seen here. I hope this is enough to persuade you to change your mind about this incident and this block. Carcharoth (talk) 23:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up (Sporadicals, SPAs, Sleeper Socks)[edit]

Would you be interested in commenting on this? Carcharoth (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thanks[edit]

Admin Coaching Re-confirmation[edit]

Hello, previously you expressed interest in participating in the Wikipedia:Admin coaching project. We are currently conducting a reconfirmation drive to give coaches the opportunity to update their information and capacity to participate in the project. Please visit Wikipedia:Admin coaching/Status to update your status and move your entry to the Active list. Also, please remember to update your capacity (5th table variable) in the form of a fraction (eg. 2/3 means you are currently coaching 2 students, and could accept 1 more student). Thank you. MBisanz talk 09:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Charles "Zeke" Goldblum[edit]

First, let me express my appreciation for the work you do to improve Wikipedia. I admire your commitment.

I must point out that you investigated an article about a Pennsylvania prison inmate named Charles "Zeke" Goldblum and concluded that it was a hoax, which contributed to its deletion.

In fact there is such an inmate and he has a distinguished group of forensic scientists and jurists who believe that he was wrongly convicted of a murder committed in 1976 (see Commonwealth v. Goldblum, 498 Pa. 455 (1982)). His efforts for pardon or exoneration have so far been unsuccessful.

The original Wikipedia article has been deleted and I am not arguing that it should be reinstated. I don't doubt that it was a plea for "justice" for Goldblum rather than an encyclopedic entry about the facts and history of the case. Based on your comments it appears there must have been significant fact errors anyway.

I am researching Goldblum's case for a non-Wikipedia article, and I do not have sufficient knowledge of the case to suggest that it is notable enough for inclusion here. Perhaps when my research is finished I will propose an entry.

I just thought you might like to know that whoever posted the original article (not me) was not committing a hoax.

Again, thanks for all you do for Wikipedia.

Marklemagne (talk) 17:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Morrison Christian Academy (IP 211.23.224.223) Block[edit]

Sorry for all the trouble that this IP caused in vandalism, but it is a shared school IP, and if it's not too much work, I think that the ban on this IP should be extended longer than a year. If not, after a year, the IP will just vandalize more, so I think some form of perma-block should be put on the school. Thanks, and sorry :P. G man yo (talk) 03:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat random[edit]

Happy editing! Anthøny 01:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, been away for a little bit. Back now... :) Trusilver 20:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good to see you back! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Holy crap you're quick :) Trusilver 20:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They don't call me lightning for nothing. Hmm. Actually, no one calls me lightning. I just happened to see "Trusilver" pop up to the top of my watchlist, and remember noticing about a month ago that I hadn't seen your name around. Checked your contribs, and figured you'd disappeared, or had gone all socky on us. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure why you were in my watchlist in the first place. Did I piss you off at some point, or vice versa? Did we wheel war over something? Hmm...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we did, it was over something so trivial that the expiration date of me caring has since passed and it has erased itself from my head. Very unlikely though, I don't wheel war at all, one cycle and then I discuss it with whoever I'm talking to. But now that I really think about it... I'm pretty sure that we were discussing someone who was appealing a block once upon a time. Trusilver 21:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's possible I suppose, although I rarely block anyone. Such is not the way of Keeper. The only other time I posted here was directly above, but I don't remember what it was about. I also rememeber seeing you in EfD, maybe that was it. Meh, doesn't matter. Glad you're back! (Is your daughter back as well?) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, thank you. As for my daughter, she tends only to edit when she has me goading her into doing it. We took a trip not long ago to the Mission Inn in Riverside to write an article about it. Pretty much without my help, she has done a few drafts and it is coming along pretty nicely. I figure she will start editing again when she finishes that. She's in no particular hurry, but she always has something she is doing...nowhere near as much free time as I seem to have. Trusilver 23:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Myst Franchise Pages[edit]

Thank you for your time regarding my undeletion requests. These articles will be very helpful while working on improvements to the Myst articles. Please feel free to keep track of my progress on my user page. Thanks again! -- OranL (talk) 04:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re:Barnstar[edit]

Thanks for the barnstar, that's really kind, there are lots of people vandalising to do it seems.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 16:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thank spam[edit]

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 194 supporting, 9 opposing, and 4 neutral.
Your kindness and constructive criticism is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers, Anthony and Acalamari for their nominations.
Thank you again, VanTucky
Congratulations and good luck. Trusilver 23:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

For your speedy response to a vandal I reported. I love it when the system works  : ) Doc Tropics 20:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Glad I could help. Trusilver 20:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar thanks from me, see you at the Annual Fascism Ball! Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 21:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely, I'm bringing the ice cream. :) Trusilver 21:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

You are very welcome, I always try to put in a shift on RC every few days. Happy hunting!--Finalnight (talk) 07:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

da Vinci Barnstar[edit]

The da Vinci Barnstar
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Too many times spent working in RC sees a vandal given 24 hours...just enough time off to come back at the same time tomorrow. Six months following 4 blocks of a week seems more than fair. Thanks!
LeyteWolfer (talk) 16:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ref: [2]

No problem, thank you :) Trusilver 16:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

Thank you so much i appreciate it i really do :) . Happy Editing


Staffwaterboy Talk 21:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed[edit]

Hi! Thanks for deleting Pharaoh (video game) for me. Could you please delete Talk:Pharaoh (video game) too? Thanks. --MrStalker (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, didn't notice that one. It's taken care of. Trusilver 15:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello![edit]

Glad to see a fellow wikipedia that can talk sign language :) I don't speak ASL but i speak the french equivalent called Quebec Sign Language. As a minor in my studies, i am following a visual interpretation certificate and a nutrition program in university :) --Creamy!Talk 19:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I have a daughter who is deaf and that kinda necessitated my need to learn it :). As a side note, I have seen you a LOT lately cleaning up vandalism, keep up the good work. You are certainly keeping me busy at WP:AIV. Trusilver 19:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My cousin is a interpreter as his parents are both deaf and my sister is a audiologist that works with children in a center that provides readaption & communication services to the french deaf community in Montreal and my brother is a Speech and language pathologist in a oralist school. --Creamy!Talk 19:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Altoona, Pennsylvania[edit]

I have temporarily protected this page from IP users. Hopefully the vandals will get bored and go away after the realize they can't cause trouble for you anymore. Trusilver 20:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the protection and also thanks for the {{NoAutosign}} tip -- I wasn't aware of that. I'm curious: usually when a regular page gets protected, users can still edit the Discussion page. How does a protection on a Discussion page work? --Bossi (talkgallerycontrib) 21:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for protected Altoona's talk page the vandalism was really getting to be annoying. Dincher (talk) 21:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all. Also, let me know if this extends over to the article as well, I will add the protection there. In the case of page protection, the article page and the talk page are separate entities. Each one can be given its own protection without affecting the others. In the case of this talk page, the protection functions the same as it would for an article that has been given protection form editing by new and IP users. Trusilver 21:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have just reverted the same foolishness on the article twice in the last hour. I've also had to make similar changes on the article in the recent past. Dincher (talk) 21:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking care of the problem. We'll see if the vandal moves elsewhere. Dincher (talk) 22:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. The protection is in place for thirty days. Hopefully by the time that period has ended, they will have gotten bored. If they don't, let me know and I will extend it. Trusilver 22:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Might you be able to protect Downtown Altoona, Pennsylvania, too? Looks like protecting the other pages has just pushed them here. I'll let you know of Penn State Altoona needs it, too... I know they've dabbled on that one a couple times, but it's been quiet for the time being. Thanks!! --Bossi (talkgallerycontrib) 03:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Might as well grab its talk page, too... the vandal has already moved over to editing that one. :/ Thanks again! --Bossi (talkgallerycontrib) 01:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Block and unblock of SDLexington (talk · contribs)[edit]

I see that you unblocked SDLexington (talk · contribs), who appears to be a sockpuppet of indef banned troll Kristy22 (talk · contribs). I've added SDLexington to the sockpuppet case. I don't expect you will reverse your unblocking, but you may want to keep an eye on this one. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for letting me know. I will be looking into it, though it did strike me as though this user has a remarkably good grasp on Wikipedia's working for only having a half-dozen edits. Trusilver 16:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the shiny![edit]

stares at shiny --- OOOOOOOO!! It moves and sparkles!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the barnstar! I've always liked that one, and now I have one to call my own! J.delanoygabsadds 16:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh :), no problem. Keep up all the great work. Trusilver 16:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There's probably more coming, I had to take my dog for a walk... >_> J.delanoygabsadds 18:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

edit protected[edit]

When you get a chance, can you add this to User:LaraLove's talk page for me?


Thanks, J.delanoygabsadds 01:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Trusilver 02:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mongolian Nationalism[edit]

Hello, Trusilver: Please note that User:Zzanger and User:Bongma, who are almost certainly the same person, are engaging in a revert war at both Mongol Empire and British Empire. A quick look at the recent histories of both of these articles provides more than ample evidence of three-revert rule violation. Aramgar (talk) 02:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know, User:Bongma is already blocked, I will look at the other. Trusilver 02:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

question re IP block[edit]

Thanks for the quick response on my vandalism report. I hadn't realized it was possible to block an IP in that fashion, but it seems to offer admins a useful option for slowing down vandalism while letting productive editing continue. Is that relatively new, or just something that everyone else knows about except me? Doc Tropics 20:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The latter :), That's pretty much standard when blocking IP addresses, even if the block template itself doesn't reflect that. Anyone with an account can edit from a blocked IP address even if an account can't be created from that address. That's very useful when it comes to schools and other educational institutions that seem to always have an abundance of bored people that enjoy vandalizing articles. Trusilver 20:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I looked things up and realized that it was a proverbial "soft" block, I just don't remember seeing the template before. Thanks for the explanation : ) Doc Tropics 20:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Close[edit]

Thanks for catching that! That was my fault, it was a typo. I meant speedy delete. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 02:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh :), not a problem. Trusilver 02:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 02:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Aleena's RfA[edit]

Trusilver...Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. Through it I have become aware of a great many people who can help me in my future editing endeavors. Even though I was not promoted, your support shows that I still have something to contribute to Wikipedia, even if it is minor edits to fix spelling and grammar to working in WikiProjects to help others make great articles. If you wish to further discuss the nomination, please use its talk page. Stop by my talk page anytime, even if it is just to say hello. Have a wonderful day! - LA @ 04:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bigot[edit]

Calling me a bigot is a personal attack. Please dont do it again. Queerbubbles | Leave me Some Love 16:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Putting racist statements on your userpage is an equal personal attack. Trusilver 16:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you can show me one person who is being attacked by calling the type of music that I enjoy, "Angry White Music" then I will remove it and apologize on my page. However, you should know that I am not the only one that calls this music by that name. At no point do I say that all white people are angry, nor do I say that I believe that they are lower than me. I am actually married to a white guy. My friends are all white. I actually categorize myself as white... although my skin color begs to differ. Calling me a bigot however... completely and entirely out of line. Queerbubbles | Leave me Some Love 16:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't honestly referring to you as a bigot. I was poking fun at you for your suggestion of racial intent in the "pot calling the kettle black" comment, which I think you have to admit was as hilariously over-the-top as my own statement. I don't care about people's personal beliefs, nor do I feel they need to be justified in any way. My only worry is whether or not someone can be neutral, if they can then nothing else they believe is relevant to me. Trusilver 17:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The pot calling the kettle black thing is honestly a sore spot with me. I was formally and publically informed of some people's opposition to that phrase, and as such, have done some investigating on my own. While its original intention is very clear, it was later used as a derogatory comment towards people of color. As it lost its secondary meaning, people began to use it again. Its kind of like how, "Catch a tiger by its toe" was originally something much much worse. But people dont remember anymore. Anyway. If you honestly did not mean to paint me in such a light, then fine. Queerbubbles | Leave me Some Love 18:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<outdent>Queerbubbles, I'm not sure why I'm watching your page, (have we talked? Am I a stalker?) But I've often used the phrase "kettle...black", we even have a wiki-essay that I've linked before with this phrase, and didn't know it had "history" outside of kitchen utensils. Do you have a link/website that explains the history? In the meantime, I likely won't use that phrase anymore myself....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a complete idiot. This is Trusilver's page. And I know why I'm watching it, we've just discussed that actually. Sorry for the orange bars, Tru, hoping QB is still reading..:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am! :P See here to see a discussion regarding it, and people discussion this exact conversation, however what I was told was that people used the phrase to demeed others by calling them black. In that, a blue pot could call a green kettle black as a way of demeening them. Or something to that effect. The act of calling someone black was the issue, not the fact that a pot or a kettle was indeed that color due to use or just sheer manufactoring... Queerbubbles | Leave me Some Love 19:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Its okay, I've often considered just turning my talk page into a noticeboard. There was some point in one of my archives that a couple people in an edit war once took their fight onto my page which resulted in me going through an entire day of the orange bar popping up every twenty minutes. :) Trusilver 19:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know what you mean. Look at the page history of my own talkpage, for example. Dozens of posts per day. Someone asks a question, someone else answers before I can. It's lovely to be loved though. Reminds me of a certain Sting song though :-). Anywho, I've moved the convo regarding my question for QB over to QB's talk to save you from the deflating "that orange bar wasn't actually for me..." feelings. Cheers, :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I take back my previous statement. After reading the comments you have made concerning your suggestion that nobody who is evangelical Christian should be an admin. I'm sorry, I was mistaken. You are a bigot. You hide behind the same narrow-minded hypocrisy you are supposedly championing against and then when anyone calls you on it you claim you are being attacked for expressing your views. Trusilver 18:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is that to me? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
/smack/ no that's not for you. Trusilver 18:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Getting started[edit]

Hi, I'm brand new as a Wikipedian and would like to begin contributing with something I've done before: copy-editing. I've gone over the How to Copy-Edit page and generally how to edit a page, etc. I even found my way to your group, LoCE, and the list of pages needing attention. So I suppose I should simply pick a page and dive in, but what do I do about it when I'm done? Should the page be removed from the list? By me? I appreciate any advice you can share with me about getting started with Wikipedia copy-editing. --AnnaFrance (talk) 20:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. I am working today and thus my ability to open up my laptop is haphazard at best. I will have some time later on to go into your questions in depth, but for right now I would just like to thank you for your interest in both Wikipedia and the League of Copyeditors. I don't know if you have taken a look at the new editor adoption program yet, but if you haven't I would be happy to "adopt" you. (It's been a while since I've last done that, but much like riding a bike I assume you never forget :)) I will talk to you more tonight. Have a good day. Trusilver 22:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would be honored to be adopted by you. Thank you so much. Right now, I'm off to read some Wikipedia Manual of Style. --AnnaFrance (talk) 00:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thank you. MMMMMMMM (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Than you for shortening your name into something less confusing. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask me. Trusilver 03:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]