User talk:Trooperlake
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- Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 13:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]
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- Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 17:32, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Review of article Ghost Bikes[edit]
Hello-thanks for reviewing my article on Ghost Mountain Bikes-would appreciate some advise as I have been through many edits now. I am simply translating an existing post on the German Wikipedia site which the last editor suggested I do verbatim. So the one you edited is of an exisitng post. I have added a few more references then the exisitng post has on the German site but I am still being asked to provide more third party references. The standard for notablity/references seems high in relation to the existing post on bike manufacturers. There are approximately 40 bike companies represented on the English Wikipedia but very few from Europe so I am trying to round out the representation of bike companies. Suggestions on how to get this listed. trooperlakeTrooperlake (talk) 23:57, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hiyas there trooperlake,
- I am afraid i am not to familiar with the German version of Wikipedia's guidelines and policies, as each Wikimedia wiki may have its own policies and guidelines (Though quite a few use the en.wiki's as a basis for their own). I am fairly certain that there is something similar to the notability policy on the German wiki as far as article's go. To put it simple: Every article must have veridiable and reliable sources for content that are independent of the subject. On the en.wiki these sources are the basis for the inclusion policy that states that an article can only be included if it can be supported by above mentioned sources.
- The version of the article i reviewed didn't have any sources, except for Wikipedia article's. Those are specifically not reliable as they are tertiary sources (And because you can end up with the amusing situation where the German Wiki is a reference the English Wiki, Which in turn is a reference for the French Wiki, which in turn is a source for the German wiki again). I see that the older version of the article contained two references, but both aren't really passing the reliable sources guideline. The first one is a company profile, the second doesn't mention the word "Ghost" at all, which means i cannot see even a trivial mention of the company in it.
- As to what to do - first ask yourself if the article can meet the inclusion criteria listed at WP:CORP. Truth be told - only a handful of companies manage to pass the notability criteria. Note though that these aren't solemnly the huge multinational companies - smaller niche companies can pass as well if they are "special" enough. If it can meet the criteria, the next step[ is to find above mentioned reliable sources that can verify article content, and your done. Even so, i would mention that the vast majority of companies aren't included - and i would dare say that a fair amount of the companies actually listed on Wikipedia are only there because no-one got around to cleaning them up so far. Sometimes a company just doesn't pass the bar no matter what you do. The best advice i have in that case is being critical, rather then spending time for naught. If you believe it can pass, go for it though :) Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 19:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)