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Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter

Hello, and welcome to the December 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since September. Don't forget that you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

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This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2023)

Hello, TimothyBlue. The article for improvement of the week is:

International trade law

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: East Sussex • Sports science


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New pages patrol invitation

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Three years!

Happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi! Can you help me with Primary Sources? What's wrong with them, and why should they be inferior to false secondary sources?

Respectfully yours, Aruturo Van Kaigan (talk) 18:52, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You need to seriously read the warnings left on your talk page. I think you are very close to being blocked.  // Timothy :: talk  18:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2024)

An antacid is a substance which neutralizes stomach acidity and is used to relieve heartburn, indigestion or an upset stomach.
Hello, TimothyBlue. The article for improvement of the week is:

Antacid

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Fish slice • Carbon source (biology)


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Why are you deleting Asianet article?? Do you know any basic history of Asianet channel???

do you know the history of Asianet??? Don't try to explain with bloody excuse by saying that there are no references, if you want to know what is Asianet channel Habibi come to what's app, I will tell you everything Manish Asianet (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024

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Incidents early archive

Hello. It appears one of the Incidents discussions that you created was archived early without all of the incidents being addressed. Do you know if a discussion for this can be recreated and is this something you are interested in doing? Thanks, KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:29, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

I think admins are hoping this quiets down on its own, it appears new editors have joined the discussion and hopefully regardless of the content issue, normal order resumes. It is frustrating, this whole area is a bit like playing Whac-A-Mole. If the previous state of affairs returns, it can be recreated.
It might be worth bringing up the early archive issue at WP:AN if the bot looks like it is not archiving correctly. // Timothy :: talk  22:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
It happened again, in spite of a lot of disruption evidence. Is the bot usually supposed to archive as quickly as three days after the last comment? --KhndzorUtogh (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

The Arrows of Time

@TimothyBlue Good day! I hope you can give me some elaborations for your remarks on my draft for „The Arrows of Time“, because (as you can for example see on my talk page) I'm pretty confused about what is wrong with it. I hope you can help me resolve it further.

Why do you consider it a „personal reflection, personal essay“? With the number of references, how can it be personal? As another user has already explained me a bit: I wrote the „Background (mathematics and physics)“ section fully based on what the author himself wrote in the afterword of the novel and on his website (of which sections are referenced multiple times). I will not submit the draft with connections to real science left, that he has not explicitly stated or calculated. How is this original research? (I do know that the last quarter does not have references yet. I first intended to add them later as keeping something unsourced should be possible for an unpublished draft, but have now deleted it completely as the claim of original research was already brought up before. In the current state, I consider the draft ready for resubmission.)

I expect the main reason, somebody would go to this article is to read about the consequences of the sign change of the metric in physics explained as short as possible instead of going through the ~ 80,000 words (the length of a short novel) the author wrote about it on his website. But the „Background (mathematics and physics)“ section seems to be the main problem everybody has with the draft. Would you prefer to have it deleted completely? Or is the comment I've now added to mention the explanations in the afterword and to reference the entire website with an overview over every single section enough?

What must be done to get the draft published? Thank you for your help! Samuel Adrian Antz (talk) 11:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I took another look at the article, the previous draft notes appeared and it looks like your receiving two different opinions from two different article reviewers (it happens), but this isn't your issue so I have moved it back into article (main) space.
Draft:The Arrows of Time#Background (mathematics and physics) is the part I feel is OR, but that appears to be what the previous reviewer was advising. The plot section strays into essay imo.
I also think the article would benefit from a reviews sections. This would be very helpful and the reviews exist.
I'm looking forward to reading the series. Greetings from Los Angeles, Timothy  // Timothy :: talk  12:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much for you help! Since your comment, I've added more references I already had in mind, so that some claims now have at least two: One scientific source and one from the author's website. This should make it a lot easier to verify, that connections inbetween are not made up by me and hence there isn't original research. I've also deleted another section completely as it concerns explanations exclusively given inside the novel and its afterword and not the author's website, hence no reference for them is possible and I do understand it looks like original research.
So you mean the plot summary is actually what reads like an essay? But what is different about it compared to other plot summaries on other pages about novels?
Isn't the idea for review section you mentioned already what the reception section currently is?
Unfortunately, the article got moved to draft space again (after the above changes) and I really don't know what do to any more. I've completely exhausted every possibility to improve and every source to add to the draft by now. What should I do?
I wish you a lot of fun with the series! Both science and ideas are pretty amazing! Best regards, Samuel Adrian Antz (talk) 11:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Update: I was explained the problems in the meantime, which is that the draft has to be shortened. (Of course, that's not something I would have come up with myself, because then I wouldn't have written it in the first place.) I have already done so and might also shift concepts from the "Background (mathematics and physics)" section into the "See also" section to further deal with the assumption of original research. Thank you! Best regards, Samuel Adrian Antz (talk) 16:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Please fix your mistake

Please fix your removal of the word "revert" from this discussion [10] IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 10:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I fixed it. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 17:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Happened here as well [11] IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2024)

Hello, TimothyBlue. The article for improvement of the week is:

Shovel

Please be bold and help improve it!


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extended-confirmed-protected edit request on Zamorin

Hello there is a extended-confirmed-protected edit request on [20]] 207.96.13.213 (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

March 2024 GAN backlog drive

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Re: Kraków Uprising

Hi! What is the point of me specifically having to add sources for the Krakow Uprising, as the entire article does not have too many sources. Because where is the source of, for example: the Kościuszko Uprising, the January Uprising, the Gulf War, or even World War II. Because according to your criteria, that without a source, nothing can be added to the list, so 90% of the article should be removed because they don't have sourses. If we accept that a link to the article is enough, so this mean that Kraków Uprising should be readded. Why does the Krakow Uprising have to be sourced, but not WWII - where is the certainty that such a war existed, and Poland take part in? Szturnek (talk) 08:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Entries with wikilinks to articles with references verifying reliable sources label the event a war and meets the article list criteria do not need sources in the article.
You are correct on the point there are other entries that need proper sourcing; if proper sourcing cannot be found showing the entry meets the list criteria, the entries should be removed.  // Timothy :: talk  09:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 13, 2024)

File:Bucaram foto.png
Abdalá Bucaram
Hello, TimothyBlue. The article for improvement of the week is:

Abdalá Bucaram

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Natural resource • Religious music


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Why israel?

Just curious Natieboi (talk) 15:04, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Because Israel is fighting the same Russian sponsored terror coalition that Ukraine and the rest of the free world is fighting.  // Timothy :: talk  00:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Inexplicable

You have in this edit linked WP:ONUS to justify the *addition* of content to an article. Were you confused about whether you were removing text instead? 100.36.106.199 (talk) 12:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

A quick look at the article history shows the above is incorrect.[23],[24],[25] The article has been restored to the stable consensus version which existed before the dispute arose.
Gain WP:CONSENSUS per WP:ONUS for any change. For additional information, read WP:BRD. Further questions about Wikipedia guidelines and policies can be answered at WP:TEAHOUSE.  // Timothy :: talk  14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Have you read WP:ONUS? It refers to the onus for inclusion of disputed material exclusively, ergo it cannot possibly be used as an explanation for inclusion. After you have read it, I will happily accept your apology on this point, and then be willing to consider your (unrelated) suggestion that I am wrong about the history of the page. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 18:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
This is not a subject up for discussion. Per WP:ONUS, "the responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." Further questions can be answered at the WP:TEAHOUSE or if you're feeling particularly foolish you know your way to WP:ANI.  // Timothy :: talk  19:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Let me help you: "the responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." The policy section ONUS is explicitly asymmetric: it puts an onus on those who want to include content only, not on those who want to remove it. As I was not seeking to include disputed content, it cannot possibly be a valid explanation for reverting my edit. Be a decent human being and apologize for your (now thrice repeated) error. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 00:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Astonishing. Too bad WP:Don't be a dick isn’t a thing any more. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 12:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Yea, too bad.  // Timothy :: talk  00:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

The lack of sources for editing the Khatyn Massacre

I am the source, since I am about 90 years old and I lived in those areas at that time. Wikipedia says that anyone can edit - but apparently not the witnesses. You apparently expect the German and Soviet bandits to doccument their genocidal actions and preserve those documents in the public libraries. The only published fact of that kind was Hitler's order to his generals several days before the planned attack, beginning WW2: "Be cruel! Be more cruel than your neighbour in action! I will shoot everyone who utters a word against this order." In the USSR the secrecy was general and overwhelming, so issuing such orders was not needed; the results were obtained by killing those officers who failed to guess properly. You probably want documents for this as well; don't you? When the Russia's President Yeltzin allowed publis access to the Russian documents of the Katyn (not Khatyn) Massacre, the British Government asked him to stop that since some of the facts could be unpleasant for the UK; Nr. Yeltzin complied. Please read books by Wiktor Suvorov , "Aquarium" in the first olace. 142.129.131.22 (talk) 03:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

For information on sourcing guidelines, see WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:CITE. For verification policy, see WP:V, and WP:BURDEN and WP:CONSENSUS for guidelines on editing content.  // Timothy :: talk  04:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 14, 2024)

Gabin in The Little Rebels (1955)
Hello, TimothyBlue. The article for improvement of the week is:

Jean Gabin

Please be bold and help improve it!


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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello TimothyBlue,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.

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