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WJRT-TV

Who do you know there, an engineer? I've been friends with the anchor Bill Harris, the lead evening anchor, via email for a few years. He said they have plans to go true HD soon, saying "Disney is pulling out all the stops."TomCat4680 (talk) 17:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Responded privately. --Thomprod (talk) 21:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:FILMS Coordinator nominations

Just a quick thanks

I forgot to check back to the entertainment reference desk and didn't have a chance to thank you and the others for contributing and helping me with this. So, here you go, my thanks! Good to know there's some other guitar players on here who I can always run to for help ;)

Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 14:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 16:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Go to User talk:Cyclonenim/Editnotice and copy and paste that to User talk:Thomprod/Editnotice :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 20:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of “Tom McAlpin

Tom McAlpin”, an article that you created, has been nominated for deletion, in the belief that it does not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. An explanation may be found at the start of “Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom McAlpin (2nd nomination)”. So long as you are not otherwise subject to a block or ban, your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you and others are quite allowed to continue editing the article to address these concerns. (In some cases, such edits may persuade those participating in discussion that the article should be kept.) —SlamDiego←T 14:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Southern Michigan

Sorry if I haven't gotten back to you sooner. Oakland county is in Southeast Michigan, not Southern Michigan. The latter term is used to describe the south central part of the state, not Mid-Michigan, but Southern Michigan. This includes Hillsdale, Coldwater, and Jackson.Cgord (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Help with new edits

Hi Thomprod, Thanks for your good suggestions. I think my most recent edit has fixed the references so they seem to fit the style of the page.--Samson22911 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. The page looks better now. Let me know if you need any further help. Cheers! --Thomprod (talk) 12:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Southern Michigan Region Map

I found this map, it shows Southern Michigan, but it is a very disputable. Use it if you wish.

(p.s. quit listening to npr)Cgord (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Thomprod. I noticed that you are a member of the Guild of Copyeditors. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at my latest FAC Han Dynasty. The prose needs to be tweaked a bit (especially in regards to large sentences that simply need to be broken up into two or three). Have any spare time? Thanks in advance if you can help out.--Pericles of AthensTalk 02:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it shortly. Thanks for thinking of me. --Thomprod (talk) 12:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem! Take your time. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 12:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I went through the first five sections tonight and made a few minor changes to the first section. This is very dense text and will take some time to get through, but I'll keep working at it. So far, it looks like you have covered the subject in great detail. The text is written very well with multiple citations, Wikilinks and dates. Your work is commendable. --Thomprod (talk) 00:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! It's a relief to know that there's little left in the article to amend and fix. User:Quadell and I have been busy making improvements in the last two days. If you come across anything questionable (aside from statements that simply need to be reworded), you can raise the issue on my talk page. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 00:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Oldest paper with writing, Han Dynasty article

Hi Thomprod. I'm very glad you asked this question! Here is what Cotterell has to say on page 11 of the source I cited in the article:

The first piece of paper known to contain writing (20 characters of the Chinese script) was found in 1942 in the ruins of an ancient watchtower in Tsakhortei, near Chu-yen, which was abandoned by Chinese soldiers in AD 110 as they came under attack from the Hsiung-nu (pronounced 'shee-on-yu') tribe of barbarians from the north, dating the paper to the same time.

That's all Cotterell has to say on the matter. I hope you find this sufficient. I'll look around for more details on this if you'd like. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 21:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Note that "Hsiung-nu" is the Wade-Giles spelling of "Xiongnu", if that was by any chance not obvious or clear to you (people ask me the difference between Wade-Giles and Pinyin all the time).--Pericles of AthensTalk 21:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
If it was found in a watchtower abandoned in AD 110, I think it should read "abandoned in 110 CE", rather than "dated 110 CE". The latter implies that the actual number of the year was found on the paper. --Thomprod (talk) 21:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
That's a very good point! I'll change the sentence. Good thinking.--Pericles of AthensTalk 21:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I've finished the main article and made a few very minor changes myself. Please check to make sure you agree. I did not check your notes or references, as I'm sure that you have already done so, based on the thoroughness of your research and attention to detail. Great job! Cheers. --Thomprod (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank you very much for reviewing the article. I hope you enjoyed the read. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 21:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

using actual articles as sources

Hi there,

I've looked hard for existing guidance about this but can find none, so thought I'd ask you.

I'm a medical writer and would like to begin working to edit/improve articles on Wikipedia about which I am knowledgeable. In my work, I have amassed a lot of pdf versions of journal articles that I've used as part of the legal/medical review process(often with annotation to direct reviewers to the specific content that supports a contention). I've obtained the .pdfs many ways...through online archives, personal subscriptions (i.e. to New England Journal of Medicine) or even manual scanning.

Seems to me that it would be truly wonderful if these kinds of annotated .pdfs of entire articles could be available via a hyperlink in a reference citation...then, with a click, somebody could quickly verify the accuracy of a statement. BUT...maybe there are copyright laws preventing that kind of thing, or technical limitations that would prevent it? The pdfs, of course, would need to "live" on the Wikipedia servers somehow.

Of course, I can always just use the basic reference (including page number, column number, and line number when possible). But wouldn't it be better to be able to see the actual article?

Unfortunately, I'm neither a lawyer nor programmer, so I have no clue if what I'm suggesting is possible.

Any thoughts?

Best,

Stephen Braun Amherst, MA24.63.135.147 (talk) 17:26, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Stephen, Welcome! Thanks for the note and your interest in improving Wikipedia. It appears that you have not yet set up a user account or made any edits other than your note here. I will create a User Talk page for you and post a Welcome notice on it with links to many articles to get you started editing. In general, sources should be cited by giving a link to the online archive, periodical or book itself, rather than to a copy of it in your posession. That way, someone reading our article can click on the reference link to see where the information came from directly. Take a look at WP:Cite for more details. By the way, why did you choose to ask me this question? --Thomprod (talk) 19:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Greetings, PC78. I created the new article based on its inclusion in a list of requested articles at WP:FILM. I was not aware of the existing article listing winners of six or more. You redirected "8" to "6" here. Although 6 does list the same films, I believe 8's structure as prose includes more details on the actual awards won by each film. Please explain why you think both articles couldn't co-exist. Thanks. --Thomprod (talk) 13:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

There's simply no need to have two articles that cover the same ground. I have no objection to converting the other list to prose and/or raising the threshold to eight, but it can all be done within the one article. It's something you would probably be better raising on the article's talk page. Regards. PC78 (talk) 13:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, I'll do that. Thanks for the reply. (You may have overlooked the highlighted instructions at the top of my talk page and on my edit notice, so I've copied my original post from your talk page here to keep the thread together on one page.) --Thomprod (talk) 16:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
After discussion on the article talk page, the consensus was to redirect List of movies that have won eight or more Academy Awards to List of Academy Award-winning films which I did. --Thomprod (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Thomprod

How's it going. If you're interested at all in copyediting another article, Economy of the Han Dynasty is a current candidate for featured article status. It's much smaller than Han Dynasty, so if you do decide to copyedit a bit, I promise it will be a much easier work load. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 00:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Cheers. --Thomprod (talk) 20:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I started to copy edit today, but saw that others have already been doing the same. Maybe I should stop so I don't step on other's toes. Copyediting can be subjective. Changing text that others have already gone through may be interpreted as diagreeing with their efforts, and I wouldn't want to cause hard feelings. Your advice? --Thomprod (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I don't mind the changes you've made so far. Feel free to copyedit a bit more if you like. But not too much, since much of the article has already been improved. You're right, at this point, most changes to the article will be based on subjective ideas about how to tweak with the prose. You were able to find a few things to fix, though, for the sake of the article's flow.--Pericles of AthensTalk 19:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi there...um...guess I don't know your name yet.

Steve Braun here...finally...you very kindly found my phone number and left me a message. I was out of town when you called, and then, in my extreme "newbie-ness" couldn't for the life of me figure out how to find my original post to you (my "history" gets wiped every day or so to protect my privacy).

But here I am...so thanks. You mentioned you set up a User page for me, which is great...except I have no idea how to get at the thing. Sorry...maybe one of my long-term projects will be to help create a single, well-indexed handbook for Wikipedia writers and editors. Might make the learning curve a little less steep!

So if you'd be so kind (again) as to email me quick directions to my user page, I'll figure it out from there. I'm not actually as helpless as I sound...I'm very facile with computers...but somehow the hyperlinked nature of Wikipedia makes it easy to lose oneself in layer upon layer of "clicks."

Wait...OK...just got a warning that I shouldn't include my email address. I'll check back here for a reply from you then.

Thanks! Hey...I see you play piano...I'm just learning and am totally in love with it...been at it a little over a year now and have learned a little simple Bach and Mozart. What I'm aiming for, though, is jazz. Sigh. Eventually...

24.63.135.147 (talk) 18:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Steve, nice to hear back from you. I can answer Wikipedia-related questions here (it's called my "User talk page", BTW), and to find it again from outside Wikipedia (WP), just click [1] and then save the URL in your browser as a Favorite/Bookmark. Once inside WP, you can find it by typing "User talk:Thomprod" into the "search" box in the upper left of any page, and then hitting <enter> or clicking the "Go" button.
Personal conversations should be done through e-mail. You may send me your address through e-mail if you wish (so it doesn't appear anywhere on Wikipedia) and I can reply back to you that way on personal issues. To send me e-mail, once you are on my talk page, just click the link on the left under the heading "toolbox" that says "E-mail this user". You don't have to know my address to send me e-mail because I have made it available as a link to all Wikipedia users, even though the actual address is not visible.
To your WP-related questions: To get to your "talk page" while on my talk page (or any page that you have signed), just click the "(talk)" link after your signature. You can also click here. Since you are not yet a registered user, the "user name" in your signature is currently just your IP address (24.63.135.147). You may want to consider becoming a registered WP editor. For more information, see the Welcome Notice I placed on your talk page here. I suggest you read this first chance you get as it will answer many beginning questions for you. If you need more help, feel free to post again. Happy editing! --Thomprod (talk) 20:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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Pippin

Hi. I see that you added this cite for the proposition that Pippin is a rock musical: http://www.musicals101.com/1970bway1.htm I do not see where Kenrick says that. On a different page of the website he mentions Pippin, but I don't think he calls it a rock musical. Perhaps you are looking at a different page of his site? Of course, any assistance with the Rock Musical article is appreciated, as it is difficult to reference, and because what is "rock" is, itself, a sticky question. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right. The citation mentions Grease and Godspell as examples of Rock Musicals, not Pippin. I will correct my earlier edits. --Thomprod (talk) 21:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Copyedit request

Hi User:Thomprod,
I wanted to ask you if you could help me copyedit The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie article, as I am trying to get it to FAC status.
Thanx!
ATC . Talk 02:45, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll be happy to look at it, ATC. Thanks for thinking of me. --Thomprod (talk) 02:54, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem. ATC . Talk 18:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

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