User talk:Thomaslam1990

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Citobun (talk) 08:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

July 2020[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for disruptive and deceptive editing. For example, misrepresenting sources at Junius Ho. As well as engaging in taunts, innuendo and aspersions in the very ANI complaint which concerns your editing.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

El_C 04:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thomaslam1990 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Fair enough, I understand now that I should not have accused Citobun that he acted in bad faith. Did not realise that is a bannable offense, because I thought he was accusing me of the same thing. I will be more careful during exchanges with him from now on.Thomaslam1990 (talk) 04:49, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Your commitment to be more careful didn't last 30 minutes. I am not convinced that you understand the problem that your block addresses. If you make another accusation against any editor without posting convincing evidence in support, I will remove your ability to edit this page. Please read WP:GAB. Ask questions if there are points that are not clear. Tiderolls 12:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

The whole thing about Junius Ho's "killed" statement as was modified by you in this edit, for example, is exactly why we need General sanctions which cover the topic area, I was reported to have said. El_C 04:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You did more than accuse me of acting in bad faith – you accused me of colluding with "pro-protest editors", claiming that I "formed a group" with them to systematically push a political agenda. This is kind of a serious allegation. It's also an outright lie seemingly pulled out of thin air in order to discredit me and throw the ANI discussion off course. Citobun (talk) 05:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Citobun: Sure, I may have overstated. My suspicion was rooted that you and a few editors seem to edit at the same time or in parallel against me, i.e. OceanHok and your undo timing for instance, and furthermore you regularly have meetings with Hong Kong editors on discord which led me to belive that. I do apologise that its far-fetched and probably not true. @El C: How do I proceed with the matter then, and what could I have done better? - I appreciate the time you're taking to discuss this with me. Thomaslam1990 (talk) 05:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have meetings with Hong Kong editors. I don't use Discord. Citobun (talk) 05:15, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I stand corrected then, my sincerest apologies to you. Thomaslam1990 (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So you admit that this allegation was an outright fabrication? I have never interacted with OceanHok (or any of the other editors with whom you have had conflicts) outside Wikipedia. Secondly, what is the point in asking the admin how you can improve? The issues with your editing have already been explained to you numerous times. Citobun (talk) 05:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Thomaslam1990, I am offering "no amnesty" at this time. Your unblock request will be decided by another admin. That is the process. I recommend you read and reflect on WP:GAB for a fair chance at success at that. El_C 05:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]