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ENGVAR

Hi! I noticed you've been converting some American English words to Commonwealth English in order to ensure a single standard form within an article. I think a few times you've done that in articles that started in American English, like Cologne, which as far as I can see was started in American English. I've been undoing several of your edits, but if you notice a mistake, please don't hesitate to let me know. Red Slash 01:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Cologne is a subentity of the European Union, so in the case of dispute the British English spelling should be preferred. (see http://ec.europa.eu/translation/english/guidelines/documents/styleguide_english_dgt_en.pdf for the English spelling guidelines in the European Union) The article wasn't started in American English. The revision shown uses a mixed spelling -- there are words like harbour or humour in it. --Surtalnar (talk) 07:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

It would make sense for there to be a guideline on this stuff, right? In fact, there is. Give WP:TIES a read for me, tell me what you think. Red Slash 07:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

If we look at Cologne, at the beginning a mixed spelling was used. Now there is a dispute. We have to decide between U.K. spelling and U.S. spelling. In this case the spelling used in the European Union is preferred, because the city lies in the EU, not in the United States. --Surtalnar (talk) 07:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

No, that is not a reason that has any basis in policy or guidelines. Now, you could make an argument that the original spelling was indeed (mostly) British spelling. I just took a cursory look through it earlier and saw the word "center" in the first paragraph; you may be right on that one particular one (Cologne). Again, belonging to the European Union means jack squat, read the guideline I linked to and WP:RETAIN. Red Slash 07:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Note especially the word "national" in the phrase "national ties". Red Slash 07:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(I do however pass on my thanks for that cool document you posted. Fascinating, truly interesting stuff. I don't think it's relevant, but it's a great read for an amateur translator!) Red Slash 07:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The true test would be what the very first use of any term spelled differently in different forms of English, but the article is old enough we don't have the history to provide the answer. As such, the predominate one should be used. By the way, there is no such thing as "Commonwealth English". There are things that, for example, Canada and Australia share with the US rather than the UK. And as stated by Red Slash, non-English-speaking countries (EU or not) do not have strong national ties to one version of English or another. Such articles should retain the version used at the article's creation. -Rrius (talk) 07:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring

You are currently engaged in an edit war across multiple articles that appears to be based on a lack of understanding on your part of the WP:ENGVAR policy. If you do not cease edit warring, you may be blocked. You would be better served to read the policy, then engage in a discussion. -Rrius (talk) 08:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

February 2016

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Please look at the sources, before you edit. --Surtalnar (talk) 02:33, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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