User talk:Sammy1857

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Question on past editing

Welcome to Wikipedia. While you are registered as a new member, your editing suggests you are very experienced in editing Wikipedia. Because the article you have been editing has had a lot of problems with a banned user using a new name - see WP:Sock puppets and Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/JarlaxleArtemis - I hope you don't mind if I ask if you have done extensive editing as an AnonIP or have changed user names? Thanks. CarolMooreDC🗽 20:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

No I have not- this is actually my first wikipedia account, and I'm still trying to get the hang of things. I don't edit often, but the page you and a few other contributors were working on, "Children in the Israeli Palestinian conflict" was just so obviously biased that I had to do something (and apparently I was about to be banned for it?). Like I said, I'm pretty new to wikipedia, so I'm not familiar with all the rules, but what is going on in that page is rather unfortunate- even the language is often distorted to paint Israelis in the worst possible light (i.e- Israeli youths "massacred" <- direct, Arab youths were "reportedly involved in the event" - those were the types of things I changed and got threatened for).

Even now, some shady statistics from 1999 were brought in (without any relevant statistics pertaining to the Palestinians to balance it out) that call Israeli children the most violent in the world. Nice. I'm sure I'm not the only user seeing the travesty that's going on in that page though, so hopefully a neutral party will be able to come in and reclaim it soon.Sammy1857 (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, when your walking through a new mine field, it's good to tread carefully and not jump about gleefully :-) It's good to start on talk page with issuesin this area til you learn the rules. Also to be specific about where edits are and to look at whole context for specific problems. And to realize that there are people with different view points and that unlike the real world of writing where people are shunned/fired/abused for criticizing Israel, here it's called Neutral voice to make sure that relevant articles include such criticism. CarolMooreDC🗽 00:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Thankfully I wasn't jumping about, but simply correcting some of the incendiary language that peppers that article- there's still much more that I'm sure, if I don't fix, no one else that's currently working on it will. Furthermore, I personally have no problem with criticism of any country; I do have problem with bias and distortions, however, both of which that article is filled to the brim with. Trying to frame these concerns as merely an aversion to "Neutral" criticism (which is something that, unlike your peculiar allegation, plenty of people do without getting shunned/fired/abused) in what I can only imagine is an attempt to depreciate them is rather unwarranted.

Either way, thank you for your suggestions. For the sake of accuracy and a balanced article, I do hope you also take some of mine to heart.Sammy1857 (talk) 03:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

1 RR violation

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Note that under Israel Palestine arbitration you only can do 1 revert in 24 hours. Please revert your last two for 24 hours or you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. CarolMooreDC🗽 12:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. CarolMooreDC🗽 14:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Sammy1857. You seem to have broken the WP:1RR restriction which is imposed on all WP:ARBPIA articles. There may still be time for you to respond at WP:AN3#User:Sammy1857 reported by User:Carolmooredc (Result: ) and agree to wait for consensus before making any further changes to this article. Otherwise, per the usual protocol, you may be blocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI, I did change the edit in question per talk to add more context (that draft resisters do get arrested in Israel) that would make the info relevant. So I don't know if that would apply to his possibly removing the same info, with slightly different wording. CarolMooreDC🗽 20:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:ARBPIA warning

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, satisfy any standard of behavior, or follow any normal editorial process. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the "Final decision" section of the decision page.

Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, with the appropriate sections of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures, and with the case decision page before making any further edits to the pages in question. This notice is given by an uninvolved administrator and will be logged on the case decision, pursuant to the conditions of the Arbitration Committee's discretionary sanctions system.

Per your violation of the WP:1RR restriction at Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict on 4 April. You can avoid any further problems if you will wait to get consensus for your changes on the talk page. This warning is being logged in the Arbcom case. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)