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Robiquetgobley (talk) 17:04, 18 February 2010 (UTC) thanks for the advice, I will try to improve...

About "See also"/"Related articles" sections

The purpose of See also section is not supposed to provide a directory of links. It should be restricted to links that are related, but would be tangential or cumbersome if they were added to the main text, or important topics not yet covered. It is ideal to integrate the links into the article.Novangelis (talk) 14:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Vegoia and Egeria

I have some existential concerns about your article Vegoia and Egeria. I've asked for members of the Greece&Rome Project to look at it (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome#possible deletion), and also invited an admin to offer perspective. Just wanted to let you know that in my view, it ought to be nominated for deletion, but I don't want to put you through that tedious process unless there are others who share my response to it. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, I see that you are a new editor, so this may simply be a matter of learning WP procedures and guidelines for content. The WP definition of "original research" is particularly tricky. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I'm not concerned about the copyright questions, since Dougweller is guiding you toward addressing them. And I'm not trying to discourage you — just want to make sure your useful contributions can be tailored by WP procedures. I've had an article on Vegoia on my to-do list for a long time, and was surprised no one had posted one before now. It was needed. I still think Vegoia and Egeria is not an independent encyclopedia article, for the reasons I've just reiterated at the AfD discussion. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

From what you say, I would lean toward exploring this in Vegoia, and then add a short section to Egeria called "Vegoia and Egeria" with a "See also" under the subhead. This is assuming that there's a consensus at the AfD for deletion of Vegoia and Egeria. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Vegoia and Egeria for deletion

A discussion has begun about whether the article Vegoia and Egeria, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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Copyright violations at Vegoia

This article was created by taking editors' contributions from a number of other articles and combining them to make a new article, am I correct? Unfortunately I can't see anyway of identifying who wrote what, and because of that this is copyvio from our point of view. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. I checked with another Administrator who works on copyvio more than I do, and we agree that unless there is some way of sorting this, the article will have to be redone. This means I will turn it into a WP:Stub and editors will have to expand it, and if any copy comes from other articles it needs to be attributed clearly to that article. Do you see any way out of this? Dougweller (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Your perception of that article is not right; "Vegoia" was not written from other articles in Wiki, as that figure was hardly mentionned at all, and not qualified except in a very vague way; all features are tracked to sources in notes; it is also clear that there is no global development on that figure in any one of the sources tracked, hence there should not be any copyright issue. with my best regards Robiquetgobley (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I thought by 'articles' you meant Wikipedia articles. Ok, apologies. Dougweller (talk) 10:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

no issue; some words we use can indeed be misleading (I am not native English) regards Robiquetgobley (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

December 2010

Your addition to Vegoia and Egeria has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. See [1] - this is pretty obvious copyvio from [2] Dougweller (talk) 10:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

well, actually not all, I did not know this source; the excerpt was taken up from another Wiki article : "Etruscan mythology", § "Prophets and prophesy-Etrusca disciplina" the which did not refer to any copyright use (no note whatsoever); I took that for self writing by one of the contributors to the article this obviously sheds light on the difficulty of mastering eventual copyrighted content throughout the Wiki process itself; as for myself I keep a copy of what I wrote (when significant), with (most of the time) a tracking of the source I took that from; and I certainly am not wont in copying full sentences wording from non-wiki sources without tracking, through a note or reference; hope this clarifies a bit regards Robiquetgobley (talk) 13:05, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, but I thought you hadn't copied anything from other Wikipedia articles. How much more have you copied from other Wikipedia articles? Dougweller (talk) 15:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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