User talk:Pansophia

This account will no longer be used for editing Wikipedia. + Pansophia left, stating: "This account will no longer be used for editing Wikipedia." - - This decision to abandon my user account is a direct response of ongoing harassment from Midgley. - - Instead of helping me with Midgley, admins chose to exploit my vulnerability to pile on me and count coup in an editorial dispute over the Kaiser Permanente article. The admin involved in the latest incidents was Rhobite, who had previously abused his admin powers to push his pro-corporate pov. For instance in a dispute over whether a corporate logo constituted an advertisement, Rhobite went to another article to remove an image I had placed while threatening to block me if I removed his image. I appeased Rhobite by allowing my image to be deleted and his to stay, as I have appeased him on many of his other unilateral edits. Rhobite has yet to show any willingness to reciprocate by negotiating further edits. - - I would also like to express my tremendous disappointment regarding Will Beback. I had previously regarded him as a neutral party, waiting patiently for the disputes over the Kaiser Permanente page to work themselves out. Now I see he is interpreting my reaction to Midgley's harassment as a problem with my "attitude" as an editor. He could have stepped in to abate the Midgley problem, and he chose not to. - - In contrast, I would like to laud Michael Ralston as the editor with the most exemplary attitude regarding the Kaiser Permanente article. While he was strongly opposed to my positions as an editor, he took the reasonable approach of negotiating editorial changes on the talk page. He respected that I was also striving for NPOV, and the best way to achieve that was by making gradual, incremental changes. Most other editors of the Kaiser Permanente article used the talk page only to talk at their adversaries, not with them. This problem was exacerbated by mediators who only referred people who were already talk page users to the talk page, while failing to recognize that other users were deliberately ignoring the talk page in favor of gaming the system and recruiting a gang to force their changes. - - The fundamental problem fueling the disagreements over the Kaiser page is that there are multiple POVs in play. While "critical" is one point of view, "celebratory" and "corporate-sponsored" are also points of view. Rhobite's "pro-capitalism" is a POV. Editors of the Kaiser Permanente page include Kaiser doctors, and at this point possibly agents of a Kaiser PR firm. They cry "not NPOV" at their opponents, while invoking "assume good faith" for themselves. To my knowledge, there are no NPOV editors of the Kaiser article. There was only the possibility of working toward an NPOV article through a process of discussion and compromise. Attempts to outflank and smear other editors only led to escalation of the dispute. - - This situation seems to be an endemic part of Wikipedia culture, so it was not the ultimate factor in my decision to relinquish my username. I arrived at this decision as the only ethical response to Midgley. I drew Midgley's harassment because I stood up for another user, Invisible Anon, when Midgley tried to get him/her in trouble by trolling under the Invisible Anon username. The other people who were involved in exposing Midgley have been subjected to ongoing harassment as well. The evident consequence of sticking your neck out to help another person on Wikipedia is attracting harassment: admins do nothing to help (in some cases they even help the troll), and other users can't do much more than file RFCs (which just gives trolls the idea to file preemptive RFCs against their victims). Fighting an energetic harasser takes an enormous amount of time, so there is a built-in disincentive to stick your neck out and help other people when they need it. - - I do not support that situation, and I will not be further baited by Midgley. Moreover, I have no need to maintain a fixed identity for the purpose of Talk pages, since the majority of the editors of the main article I work on, Kaiser Permanente, have voted against the Talk process through their actions. Relinquishing my username is the only way to be able to continue to do the right thing without making myself a target. Until Wikipedia develops a policy to provide rapid intervention to mitigate harassment of people who protect weaker users from bullies, I encourage other people who with to be able to act with integrity without painting a target on their back to relinquish their usernames as well. - - Update: Rhobite has now protected the Kaiser Permanente page after making a revert in his own favor. This is a blatant attempt to force me to endure Midgley's harassment or let him and the pro-Kaiser cabal rule the Kaiser Permanente article. They will now never be obliged to negotiate with critics. Also, as a consequence, Kaiser is currently free to develop their corporate-sponsored article. - - For the time being Rhobite has the power to force me to endure being battered by Midgley, since apparently no other Wikipedia admins are going to intervene: I will do my best to continue to attempt to keep the article from being taken over by Kaiser's PR team and insist that Kaiser-supporters start to negotiate (true negotiation that involves compromise, not just leaving a comment on the Talk page that proves they "talked") with critics for true NPOV. - - I would, however, like to abandon this username, so if any Wikipedia admins can offer a better solution than just forcing me to be Midgley's punching bag, please let me know. -

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- This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. Midgley 11:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC) - - :Midgley, stop it. I'm not going to threaten you, I'm not going to engage in wikilawyering, but you are acting like a petty bully, which surely can't be your intention. --Leifern 12:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC) - - ::I note that Leifern associates himself with, and does not criticise, this behaviour. It continues to be unacceptable. [1] would qualify for another final warning. Midgley 10:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC) - - :::Associate with? What are you talking about? And Midgley, if "final" warnings should be passed out for personal attacks, you should rightly be banned from WP several hundred times over, since you seem barely able to make a single comment without resorting to personal attacks.