User talk:MarnetteD/archive38

Did you realise

That both Mario Payne and Copperman were the same editor, both socks of David Beals? Payne was reverting Copperman, but that's not unusual, and Copperman's posts, particularly on talk page, should have been reverted. Article pages are different, although anyone reinstating a sock edit is then responsible for that edit. Dougweller (talk) 11:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for filling me in Dougweller. I did not know about the connection at the time. The info well help when I bump into them in the future. MarnetteD|Talk 16:34, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

In the Loop

Hello ever-helpful Wikipedian! I thought you may be interested to know that I've blocked this IP. It's dynamic, of course, but I've unconventionally blocked the person behind the IP so that they can be quickly blocked for block evasion/continued disruptive editing when they pop up again. Pinging Betty Logan as I believe they've been involved with this user's shenanigans as well. Have a delightful weekend, --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:26, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the update and for your efforts Ponyo. For several months they were only hitting film and TV articles with Spartacus being the one that was almost always on their rounds. Unfortunately, the latest IP 81.155.98.249 (talk · contribs) moved on to historical articles. I'll keep an eye out for future editing by this person. I hope that you have a wonderful weekend as well!! MarnetteD|Talk 20:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

User:24.186.96.236

Regarding your AIV report about 24.186.96.236 (talk · contribs): I could not easily determine if some of their edit s were worth retaining. Could you therefore review and rollback the ones that were clearly disruptive? Abecedare (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the message Abecedare. Now that I have had a chance to review more of their edits I see what you are talking about. I will continue to go through them as I get the time. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 19:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

David Copperfield

Hi MarnetteD -

Sorry for marking my edit as 'minor'; I meant to click 'watch' and hit the wrong button. About the gross edit, is there a problem if I cut it down and reinsert it? I opine that the original plot missed out some key details, as well as being terse enough to be slightly misleading; especially in the second last paragraph of the summary. Thanks, De la Marck (talk) 22:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your message De la Marck. The problem with expanding the plot is that if what is important to each reader is included the section can wind up as long, or longer, than the original book. Also, what is important to you may not be what is important to another person who has read the book. Now, I am not saying that the plot shouldn't be edited at all but WP:PLOT is the guideline to follow when working on those sections. An old adage that is a good rule of thumb (an adage within an adage there) to use is "Less is More" - in other words take what you think is important and then pare it down and then pare it down again. One idea is to tinker with it in your sandbox until you get it to a spot that you are happy with it and then add it to the article but that is just a suggetion. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD|Talk 22:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Thanks for reverting the article on Rey Mysterio Jr. It was the right thing to do. ThatKongregateGuy (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for quickly restoring the comment of Kudpung at ANI. My removal was an accidental rollback. EricEnfermero (Talk) 11:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome EricEnfermero. I guessed that might be the case. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 11:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Northern Ireland IP's

Hello MarnetteD, Many thanks for adding the link to my message to Ponyo. I must confess to being so cross that this strange "editor" had again re-surfaced, that I completely forgot to add the link. I am concerned with this "editor"'s attitude, but cannot see how they can stopped without blocking a host of IP's. Regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome David J Johnson and it looks like I was posting a message on your talk page at the same time you were writing this :-) Thanks again for all that you are doing in this situation as well as your other work here at WikiP. MarnetteD|Talk 21:22, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

They tired again today with the same edits. Ponyo has blocked the latest IP. Thanks for all your help. Best, David, David J Johnson (talk) 16:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Peace offering

Greetings, and a peace offering... Hope you are well.

CorinneSD (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so very much for the beautiful orchids CorinneSD they are much appreciated. They are my favorite colors!! I hope that you are well too. I also hope that you have a delightful week ahead on WikiP and, more so, off. MarnetteD|Talk 22:18, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Wayne Allwine

Listen MarnetteD, I know that you already told me never to reply to your talk page ever again. But the reason why I'm replying is because I made the Allwine article a lot better now, and I made it look like just like the way you want it too bee. So, as of all that it goes now, I actually get what you mean now. I just couldn't understand of all this confusion I've been having with this for a month, and I'm also sorry if I got all aggravated with it, and I also apologize for calling you "crazy" too, I'm sorry, I really didn't mean too say that to you. I really hope you appreciate it the way it looks now, I did my best to make the way you wanted it to be. FrozenFan2 (talk) 23:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Also, this is my last message on your page, because you already told me never to reply to your talk page again. And I'll do what you say, I won't reply too your talk page again. FrozenFan2 (talk) 23:42, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the apology F. I am glad that you are starting to understand how things work here at WikiP. MarnetteD|Talk 02:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Reconnecting

Hi MarnetteD! Hope you are well. I have been off Wikipedia a lot lately, but thought of you today and wondered what you were up to. I see you still keep an eye on the George Harrison article.

I was also wondering if you wanted to review any of the articles I have made available to be reviewed for GA. It would be good to work with you again. If you are interested, go to Wikipedia:Good article nominations and search for my username. I have two left still needing to be reviewed by a good reviewer (I wrote both of them from scratch). If you are not interested, that's okay too, I'm just throwing it out there. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your note Prhartcom. It is great to hear from you and I hope you are well also! Life off-wiki is a bit of a mess but I will be happy to take a look if I get the time. Best regards to ya!! MarnetteD|Talk 17:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Amelia Bence

Please feel free to change whatever. It needs a good proofing. Took me 2 days to translate the whole thing and find sourcing for what I couldn't access from the Spanish site. I am blinded by it all. I sort of left the plays in " " rather than italics thinking that I might go back and put them in a list. But was just so glad to get the last part of the translation done, after 2 days that I left it. My brain and my fingers needed a rest. SusunW (talk) 01:00, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for you message SusunW. First off I now realize I spelled your username incorrectly in my edit summary - my apologies. I took a very brief skim through things before heading off to my Sunday evening viewing. There are four different programs that I am hooked on at the moment. I noticed more plays but didn't have time to alter them all. I'll try to get back to the article when I have a chance but the early part of this week in RL is going to be a pain. Once again congrats on all your work and I hope that you enjoy the rest you so richly deserve. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:23, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

DR correction

Thanks for fixing those annoying "hanging references". I've been on the page the last few days in a DR with another editor who thinks there is a dispute, even though consensus was reached and compromises offered. Those references hanging at the bottom were a pain in the ass. Onel5969 (talk) 00:36, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome Onel5969. I think it is almost a year now that we have had to add that template to keep refs with the section of a talk page where they are used. So many editors add a ref to their comments and then never pay attention to the fact that they keep moving to the bottom of the page. Mind you there is no reason for them to know about the situation - changes keep happening to the way things work and us editors in the trenches are rarely informed about them :-) Now the whole thing is avoidable if people just use single brackets but I am not complaining. As a wikignome adding the template is right up my alley. Cheers to ya and have a delightful weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 01:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations

There is an RfC that you may be interested in at Template talk:Infobox country#RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations. Please join us and help us to determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:40, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Still can't view edit count and article history

Am I the only one facing this problem? Yesterday night everything was alright and I thought it's okay. Today right from the morning it's not working again.

Can you view these links?

https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pages/index.php?user=CosmicEmperor&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects

https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=CosmicEmperor&project=en.wikipedia.org --Cosmic  Emperor  13:54, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I just checked and you are correct CosmicEmperor. Neither of them finished loading. I know it is frustrating but these things happen - hopefully they will be restored soon. Enjoy the rest of your weekend! MarnetteD|Talk 13:59, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @CosmicEmperor: This is a common question at WP:VPT and indeed there are threads like Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 137#xTools not working, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Edit Count etc. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi Cosmic Emperor! Edit Count is operatring now. Cheers to you and M! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:50, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the update G. Hopefully it'll keep working for awhile. Cheers to ya. MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Some uses of Kids and contractions are Okay.

Keep it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.36.73 (talk) 17:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

A) The term refers to a young goat as much as it does to humans B) This is an encyclopedia not a grade school essay and C) The fact that more than one editor has reverted should tell you something. Try reading WP:CONSENSUS MarnetteD|Talk 17:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi there

Hi. You were involved in previous discussion on the use of the term "actor" to describe female actors. You may be interested in the discussion at Talk:Saoirse Ronan on this topic. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 13:19, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi again - any chance you could have a look at Talk:Saoirse Ronan? While I accept that actor is a gender neutral term and we have guidelines promoting use of gender neutral language, apparently consensus must actually be reached on each individual article. You may be able to suggest a compromise or a central location where a discussion on that might take place. Regards, Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Voice actor sock

Hello MarnetteD - I'm drawing a blank and hoping you can help me. I know there is a long-term disruptive IP hopper who targets voice actor articles, but I can't remember where the page listing the suspected IPs is located. Does this ring a bell? --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ponyo. I think this Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Voice Cast Vandal is what you are looking for. I vaguely remember that there was another person doing the same thing but I am not sure if any kind of report was ever filed. I hope this helps. MarnetteD|Talk 20:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

That's what I was looking for. For some reason I thought the info was being hosted on someone's subpage so I didn't look at WP:LTA. I appreciate pointer!--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:02, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Glad I could help Ponyo. I am also glad that my fading memory still works sometimes :-) MarnetteD|Talk 21:09, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Adminship

Thanks very much. Hope I don't spill anything. :-)

Thanks also for your kind words at my RfA. Here's hoping I justify them. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

You are most welcome Ser Amantio di Nicolao. There are good admins who will be more than happy to help is case of spillage on aisle three. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

And aisle four, and aisle five...surely. But one doesn't want to make too much work for them, no? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

300?

399, surely? --Redrose64 (talk) 10:52, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

One thousand percent correct Redrose64. That is what happens when a) the keys are right next to each other and b) I type without my reading lamp on. While I have moved up the list over the years I doubt I'll ever get that high in the ranking since most of the editors above me on the list are still active. Thanks so much for letting me know about my error and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 13:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Keep at it. I went from 399 to 300 in a little over ten months, 6 February to 18 December 2013; having climbed from 499 to 399 in under six months (15 August 2012 to 6 February 2013). --Redrose64 (talk) 13:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Whereas currently, I am just at 1047 with 49,472.
My goal is to achieve 50,000 and get into the first 1,000. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

528 edits to go. I do that in about 4 days. The trick is to find some maintenance category, somewhere that errors get listed but nobody else bothers with, and knock off as many as you can. One column of a full cat page is about 67 pages, so 8 columns should see you right. It doesn't have to be a relatively-unmonitored category: Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls has quite a few people on the case, but still has over 35,000 pages that could do with fixing. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:10, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Gareth Griffith-Jones and Redrose64 there I was thinking that your editing might be reduced in three months time with all the telly watching that you will be doing. Then I realized that - with all the crazy fan, wishful score and "I hate these match officials" edits that are guaranteed take place your work will increase! Well you will be seeing this while I am asleep so I will just say that I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday. MarnetteD|Talk 05:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Please give someone who lacks a clue what they will be watching ... World Cup? Eurovision? FIFA or EUFA something-or-others? Those are the main things that clog up my Twitter feed now and then ... please reveal. Softlavender (talk) 06:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Just click on the link Softlavender. I was trying to be clever (since WP:EGG does not apply to user talk pages :-)) so if you are using a device where it wont work I will leave a note later tomorrow after G and R get a chance to see it. MarnetteD|Talk 06:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, Rugby World Cup! I don't think I even noticed the link, in my haste -- some things are too subtle for me when there is so much drama afoot. ;-) Thanks for the clarification. Since I seem to be full of tangents today: I had no idea that rugby was named after Rugby School (nor probably even that there was a school by that name), until I saw Tom Brown's School Days a few years ago. Softlavender (talk) 06:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I've not seen it, but I've read the book - or at least, the Dean & Son abridged edition of the early 1970s (ISBN 0-603-03032-7). It's chapter V "Rugby and Football", and the part where East describes how the game is played shows where terms like "try" and "touch" come from. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)|

That's It! You are on the button.
I watched, regardless of who was playing whom, every match of the previous Rugby union World Cup, in spite of the time difference between Blighty and where the Kiwis live—the benefit of retirement—and intend doing the same this autumn/fall. Therefore, I shall be hanging up my WP boots for the duration.
I hope our lovely (talk page stalker)} appreciates the plethera of hyperlinks! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:37, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

<scratches head> Wait, you live in NZ now? Or are you just visiting there? You have never disclosed this before within my earshot. LOL about the hyperlinks. You don't have to link Blighty though; I've known what that is for 9 years. Hey right now I'm watching this BBC WWI series on PBS called The Crimson Field, and they talk about getting their "Blighty tickets" when they are incapacitated. Also, thanks for the info, Redrose; the book sounds rather interesting. Softlavender (talk) 10:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

By the way, Redrose64, I flagged a couple of confusing problems just now on the book Tom Brown's School Days, which no one seems to be watching -- maybe you could look ad see if you know the answers or can fix them .... Softlavender (talk) 11:01, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The phrase "Arnold is seldom on stage" means that Dr. Arnold is rarely part of the central action in the book, although often mentioned. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I confused you SoftLavender. No, I have never visited New Zealand; I was watching all the matches on TV.
I have done some Copy-editing ... I think the intention was that he was not "centre stage" ... rather pointless, so I have removed it. No reason that he might have been "centre stage".[1]. What do you think of it now? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like there was a lot of fun while I was asleep - typical. My first encounter with TB was this TV version Tom Brown's Schooldays (TV serial). That would lead to (as happened so often with programs shown on Masterpiece Theatre) my reading the book. I can't remember when I saw my first rugby match but it would have been in the 70s as well and had to have been shown on ABC's Wide World of Sports. S Gareth and Redrose have been very helpful in keeping me up to date on specifics in the sport and events like the Six Nations Championship. To add some clarification to one of Gareth's earlier posts - he is referring to the fact that the 2011 World Cup was held in New Zealand thus we had to be up at all hours to see the matches. This one, being in England, will be much easier on our sleep patterns :-) Gareth I just checked and it looks like we well be getting nine matches on our regular cable but all will be available on live streaming so that is good news. Cheers to all. MarnetteD|Talk 14:04, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I just got to see the edits made to the article for the book. It is such a pleasant occurrence when a conversation like this one leads to an article being improved. Congrats to all. MarnetteD|Talk 14:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I can understand SoftLavender's misunderstanding now, thanks to your penultimate post and thank you for clarifying it for her.
Great that you will be watching any match of interest to you. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Gareth Griffith-Jones: Made it, 528 edits with minutes to spare. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Congrats R!! MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

• Hey thanks all for your clarifications, etc. I've been AFK for two days. Anyway, I made some further edits and clarifications to the TBS article. Yes, I agree that it's nice to work together harmoniously and collaboratively to improve an article. Cheers all! Softlavender (talk) 04:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

If people intend reading (or re-reading) TBSD, you might like to know that the places mentioned in Chapter 1 (such as White Horse Hill, the Manger, Blowingstone Hill) are all real places, I went to several of them in May 2014. The chapter is set in the Vale of White Horse, which nowadays is a much larger area - its modern eastern boundary is a quarter of a mile from my house. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Up from 207 to 206 today. The rungs are more broadly spaced: to reach position 205, I need 1239 more edits. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:10, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Whew! Keep going! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Congrats Redrose64! MarnetteD|Talk 14:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

@Gareth Griffith-Jones: You're now in the top 1000 - at pos. 1000. You should be at 996, because there are four bots in that list that shouldn't have been, and they won't be there tomorrow. So yesterday's list, which showed you at 1004, should really have had you at 1000. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Red Rose! Thank you for the news! I only check once at the end of the month (sometimes forget) and I had not expected to pass into the top thousand yet. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Gareth Griffith-Jones Congratulation!!!! Well done. MarnetteD|Talk 14:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Bbb23. I was responding there while you were posting this here. Will this certainly spiced up my Sunday morning. MarnetteD|Talk 15:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Gosh, I see everybody has been affected by this bout of summer fever! I certainly don't intend spending my summer at ANI as I'm sure you don't! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

You got that right Dr. Blofeld. Too many things to see and do. MarnetteD|Talk 16:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Both of us hauled to ANI on the same weekend? Surely it's a sign of the apocalypse?--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:47, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

What were the odds on that Ponyo? At least both threads were closed quickly. It makes me wonder what we are store for in the week ahead. Good times is what we deserve :-) MarnetteD|Talk 22:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

From your lips to God's ears.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

This is the silly season isn't it! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I've come to the conclusion that you haven't really arrived until you are hauled to ANI over some supremely petty thing or another. --Drmargi (talk) 08:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes Dr Marg. That has happened to me more than a couple of times. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:21, 30 June 2015u (UTC)

Drmargi and Gareth Griffith-Jones several times in the last two weeks one of the complaints against me is that I am acting as an admin!? In light of how a few of those went "off the rails" in the last two weeks that is a scarier proposition than normal :-D aaiiiyyeee . MarnetteD|Talk 17:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Followup - it is also interesting how many of those that haul us there wind up getting blocked. How is it that they don't realize that they are putting up a big neon sign saying "I am a troll" OTOH that might be the point of the whole thing. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:23, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

It's just so draining, dealing with the nonsense. Especially when it appears that credence is being given to disruptive behavior, like this last attack on me by a disruptive editor. It got to the point this morning when I thought about going the way of Hafspajen. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I sure understand your sentiments Onel5969. Several good editors have left over the years because of the nonsense that goes on. Gareth and I still miss The Old Jacobite. I am totally supportive of your choice whatever it is. OTOH I would say that WikiP will be lesser without your presence. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 18:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes M & Bil
I endorse all of that.
At the end of the day, the good guys wearing the white stetsons will win [2]
Keep your spirits up! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Tom Mix, der König der Cowboys!! A pic of him from Berlin 1925!!! Excellent find Gareth Griffith-Jones. Thanks for posting it. MarnetteD|Talk 18:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Great isn't it. I am glad you're pleased. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

As we both know Stetson's are cool G. BTW a friend who lives in Seattle was at a convention where Alex K was a guest. She got a signed copy of this pic which reads "To Michael - Hello sweetie!" Wonderful stuff. MarnetteD|Talk 18:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

A Frank Apology

I would like briefly apologise to my disgusting and unwarranted vendetta against you. I deeply regret and am greatly ashamed by my abhorrent actions and comments and I assure you they will never occur in any form.

Again, I am sorry and apologise for all the offence and disruption which ensued my actions.

To ensure this does not re-occur, I promise to avoid this talk-page in future and that you shall never hear from me again.

Sorry, Gothaparduskerialldrapolatkh (talk) 21:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I thank you for this. What will be better is if your future edits and actions are in accordance with this sentiment. I also thank you for the promise not to post here again. MarnetteD|Talk 21:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Chastisement

This will make you smile [3] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Help with editing something

Hi. Hate to bug you, but could you do me a favor and take a look at something. Don't know what else to do at this point. Feel free to leave any comments/suggestions there. Thanks. Think I'll invite Gareth Griffith-Jones as well. Again, thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I hate to see you so disturbed by this miscreant. M is much better at coping and dealing with this provocation on WP than anyone else I have come across. Sorrowfully, it would seem that this contemptible behaviour has become the norm on WP these days. My advice is always the same: do not let them win by "getting to you"; walk away and starve them of fuel. It is not the editing but rather the fight that inspires their vile modus operandi. Choose a different subject here on WP and you are the vanquisher and they are the disadvantaged. You are respected here and are surrounded by admiring friends. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply Onel5969. I didn't have a chance to see this until this morning (my time). It looks like you have put in a good deal of work to be thorough and comprehensive. The one thing that I would add to Gareth's comments is that, if you proceed, there is no way to know how things will shake out. In my decade here I have seen reports like this succeed and others fail. There is just no consistency to how these are handled. Even when there was a "Request for comments/user" board it could go either way. Here User talk:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior#Here is another possible addition is an observation I made almost three years ago on the talk page for the marvelous essay created by Antandrus. Now I know it seems like we are throwing cold water on you. IMO you should proceed as you see fit. There are problems with the way that editor works and you have presented a case for that. My thoughts might be summed up as - If you get a neutral or negative response I don't want it to drive you away from editing. All the best to you on WikiP and, even more so, off. MarnetteD|Talk 16:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both for your kind words. Seems like his forumshopping and campaigning are beginning to pay off, as folks from the 8 pages he's posted on are now beginning to show up on the article talk page. It's editors like him which have led many folks to disparage Wikipedia. Shame really. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:33, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Good morning to you both!
I have awarded a blue star to my watchlist. Thank you M for the link to the article and its Talk.
@ Bil Removing those antagonising [US: antagonizing] blue stars really does the trick. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Post script: M and Bil, It is happening not only in the US [4]. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:24, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Mirren

What the hell? I've tried AIV but no response yet. What a waste of time. Thanks for your vigilance. DBaK (talk) 01:21, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes - now blocked. Thanks DBaK (talk) 01:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your note DBaK. I had to step away from my computer just as the madness was happening. I'm glad that things came to the good. Please know that your vigilance is much appreciated as well. Enjoy your Sunday. MarnetteD|Talk 02:35, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Y'know, if either or both of you were to go through WP:RFA, you'd have a "block" link against the user's name, which you would have been able to use on 109.154.140.78 (talk) without fear of reprisals, because they were well past WP:3RR and were just plain disruptive. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Tom's prediction

I agree with this. Hope you have a great week! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:44, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the link G. With that many quality teams in one group injuries could play a factor. Lets hope they stay healthy! MarnetteD|Talk 16:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

[5] Nearly there (first 1,000) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Great news G. Keep at it!! MarnetteD|Talk 16:38, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Just posted: [6]. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Whew G. I will keep my fingers crossed that this is successful. MarnetteD|Talk 13:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

You mentioned the injuries factor above. This is bad news. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Well RATS G. I don't know what it is but an injury in practice seems more depressing than one that happens during a match. Only two months to go to the Cup and new Who! MarnetteD|Talk 13:14, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi M. You asked me about "warm up" matches prior to the World Cup a little while ago. This gives you some detail [7]. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks G Looks to be a couple tough matches. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:04, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Marketa Lazarová

Morning MD. Not sure if you've seen this but highly recommended. A masterpiece. Really special, it's like a dream. Gave me chills in many parts, spiritually very powerful. It's stolen the crown as the best film of 1967 and hit my top ten list! If you think how many great films were made during the Czech new Wave too and Czech film critics thought Marketa the best of them all! I urge you to get on Criterion DVD! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:15, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Have you seen it User:Vejvančický?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:23, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

We already discussed it last year, Blofeld. If you like the movie you might like also The Valley of the Bees, another great film by Vláčil whose plot is situated in the middle ages. It's very sad and depressive. Vláčil was a complicated and depressive personality, but also an artist with exceptional imagination. His films are not only stories of wild passion and cruelty, but also breathtaking panoramatic compositions, somtetimes reminding me of the works of another great Czech artist of the 20th century, Josef Sudek.[8] I'm glad you like the film. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

A review on Amazon: "If you can imagine a cross between Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev and Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West (all made within a year of each other), you might have a notion of what Vlacil's Marketa Lazerova is like. Throw in a dash of Bergman's Virgin Spring, and you're almost there. Named by Czech critics as the best Czech film of all time, Marketa Lazerova is a poetic social critique/examination of human kind, in particular when operating outside the confines of "civilization."♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:01, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

High praise indeed Dr. Blofeld. Looks like there are some interesting extras on the Criterion Collection disc. It is now on my films to acquire list. The films of Czech new wave are extraordinary. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

An excellent article here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Great minds Dr. Blofeld. I had just finished reading it and added it to the EL's for the article. Cheers again :-) MarnetteD|Talk 14:13, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

The amazing thing about it is that you feel like you've literally gone back into medieval times in watching it. I suppose Rublev is the closest comparison, but there's similarities to certain Bergman films, reminded me of Dersu Uzala in parts too. It's one of those films which us film buffs are constantly trying to find in exploring world cinema, but don't come along as good as that often, and it always comes as a surprise too, I mean I'd heard good things about Forman, but never heard of this director!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

For another film that makes you feel like you are in that era - for the first half hour at least - check out The Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey Dr. Blofeld. Now it isn't in the same ball park as the Czech film but it is worth a look. MarnetteD|Talk 14:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Will add to the see list later! Fortunately the weather is cooler here today! Terra em Transe next..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Glauber Rocha is quite a scary director, unsettling to watch his films at times! Not in the "horror" "scary" sense, but because he's so intense, some scenes at times are a bit too dynamic/politically manic for comfort.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:39, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

FF2

Looks like he WP:DIVA'd into retirement. (He'll be back.) BMK (talk) 18:56, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note BMK. I saw the "retirement". I agree that it is likely to be rescinded before the month is out. Enjoy the rest of your weekend! MarnetteD|Talk 18:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

YowzaBMK. I had the over/under at several days. But this shows that I was waaay off. MarnetteD|Talk 19:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Let's see if he actually starts content editing again after he's finished throwing his tantrum. BMK (talk) 20:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

I am sorely tempted to respond to this with "No you stop". But that would be childish and immature. So I won't. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 20:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Short retirement --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 20:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) BMK and Ebyabe one more last edit was made while you were posting here. This retirement is taking long than Sugar Ray Leonard's and Michael Jordan's combined :-) Cheers to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 20:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I tried. Response: Deletion with the edit summary "First of, I am an adult and I'm not childish. If you read my note, don't reply on my talk page, this is not childish I'm speaking in. Is in an adult way" BMK (talk) 21:40, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the link BMK. Yep this is an "I don't want to know" followed by fingers in the ears and "la la la la" situation. The claims of innocence and "I was also been trying to protect the wiki from damage too" just leave me shaking my head and shrugging my shoulders. Not at the same time mind you :-) MarnetteD|Talk 21:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

And now this to deal with all the Wikipedia meanies like you, apparently. I'm feeling slighted. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 22:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

If I were really an admin, I'd probably block them and revoke their talk page access for a couple of days to let them cool off. Which is probably why I'm not an admin. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 22:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed. WikiP is so terrible. Yet everyone still uses it and wants to put whatever stuff they want to on it. Cheers again E. MarnetteD|Talk 22:28, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I don't feel so neglected now. Apparently someone is watching this page. The thing they don't realise is that if they stopped behaving like a five-year old girl throwing a temper tantrum, they'd get much further on this site. And, one presumes, life in general. The world is full of rejection. Sooner one learns to deal with it in a mature fashion, the better. Oh sorry, there I go, clouding the issue with facts.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 22:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey Ebyabe. I'm binging on some of my fave TV shows so I didn't see your post until now. It looks like this is the most direct violation of WP:NPA. I don't know if I am too late for this to be of use. You are correct about the way that FF2 is acting and IMO we are definitely being trolled at this point. Enjoy getting to edit articles whenever you get the chance!! MarnetteD|Talk 00:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I am editing, but at my low-stress backup for a while, the Tardis Wikia. The standards and drama there are so much lower, doncha know. I dropped a note at an admin's page regarding this. We shall see what occurs. What shows, btw? :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 00:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Ebyabe a UK show that I really like is Ripper Street - good in its own right but I also think (WP:OR) that it has echoes (for those among us who were browncoats from the beginning) of Firefly (TV series). Especially in its music, language and the shifting loyalties of it main characters. By that I mean that they will act on self interest at times but they still trust and support each other when things are at there most dire. Its first and third seasons are top notch - the second is still good. I just finished watching the 1st season of Halt and Catch Fire (TV series) on DVD. My first viewing on TV was so so. I felt that it was trying to be a Mad Men for the 80s but my second viewing left me with a better impression - removing commercials and all the scrawl at the corners advertising other programs is always a plus. It also captures the excitement of those who wanted to push the boundaries of what a computer could become way back when. MarnetteD|Talk 14:37, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I hope you have fun. :) Btw, retirement's over. They left an apology on my talk page. Which I deleted. I just don't believe them anymore. We shall see if they have really learned anything, but I have little faith. Call me cynical, I guess. Anyway, cheers and enjoy the viewing.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 00:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I had noticed Ebyabe. This cycle has been going on almost from the start. Thanks for your message and I hope that you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 00:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Watch this. This is a test.

I see you've seen the re-retirement. Or is it the re-re-re-retirement? It's weird that they haven't figured out the concept of just not logging on to Wikipedia. Or (horrors!) not turning on the computer. I'm sure this one will last as long as the other ones. Perhaps we'll be pleasantly surprised. Yep, and monkeys may fly out of my... but enough of that. Cheers. ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 22:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Re-re-re-re has left my head reeling Ebyabe. At least the one earlier today has the excuse that they were being teased too much. I hadn't seen that one before. As to animals flying I am of the age that this image from the incomparable PF always comes to mind. Tick tick tick. MarnetteD|Talk 22:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Touche, touche. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 22:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Plus I reverted their most recent 'final edit' since it was actually sourced to a blog. So you know there will be no response to that. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 22:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Yet again a new edit after the final one Ebyabe. Oy. MarnetteD|Talk 22:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Retirement? I don't think that word means what they think.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 23:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

An excellent quote and link Ebyabe. Can you believe that it is 28 years since the film came out?! Even more amazing is that Live Aid was 30 years ago today. I think that the only thing that is the same now as on that day is that a comb has not come with five feet of Bob Geldof's hair :-) MarnetteD|Talk 00:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

They're back. I reported them for vandalism, and they deleted my report. Looks like it's gettin', gettin' gettin' kinda heavy. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 03:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

You probably saw that I added to the vandalism report Ebyabe. I think they've now hit for the cycle with this legal threat. With the continued ignoring of sourcing and other WikiP policies I think we are moving into the realm where FF2's returns are only to troll the articles and us. Many thanks for the music link. It is a nice break from everything else. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 03:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

But they supposedly have short term memory problems, which explains everything. Though it's interesting they never revealed that factoid before. Oh well, we'll see what happens. And you're welcome for the music links. I put a couple more on my talk page in response to them. I love Youtube. I've seen nearly every version of The Voice on Earth. And they all sing in English. Who knew? G'night, and have a pleasant tomorrow. Or pleasant rest of the day, since it's just about Friday, ain't it?  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 03:53, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Well it is possible Ebyabe but they do remember how to log on to WikiP every day or so :-) They went from vague legal threats to a full fledged one so I reported them here [oticeboard/Incidents#Legal threat] so we will see what happens. Many thanks for the Friday wishes. MarnetteD|Talk 03:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

They posted a link to that "Why I really hate Wikipedia administrators" blog again. And I just noticed this time that you are mentioned! Someone hates admins like you. Except, wait, you're not an admin...  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 04:27, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Yay, finally, blocked! Gosh, I miss them already.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 04:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

HeeHee Ebyabe. It seems that for us WikiP volunteers (admins or not) being hated is inevitable :-) MarnetteD|Talk 04:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Watch out for the schadenfreude branch Ebyabe :-) I would say that if we see a new user named making unsourced additions to article name Anna, Elsa, Kristoff or Olaf we will know that our long national nightmare has resumed. MarnetteD|Talk 04:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Apparently Beyond My Ken is an admin too, according to that hate blog. Softlavender (talk) 04:43, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

As I live and breath Softlavender we were elevated to the position without anyone telling us! I am sure that BMK deserves it more than I do. But would he want the aggravation. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:52, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Continuity inconsistencies

I understand and appreciate why you reverted my edits and I shall leave the page that way. I was brash in restoring them after user:Mezigue rightly undid them the first time.

That said, however, I feel your comments regarding my edits are denigrating - "I think this editor would be happier editing at the TARDIS wikia". I find this comment patronising in the extreme and demonstrative of a perceived superiority.

I believe Wikipedia policy is to comment on the quality of the edits not the user. It is not for you to say where and what I edit, please kindly refrain from doing so.

I'm sorry that I breached my promise not to post here again. However, I was extremely affronted by your comments and felt I had to address them, should you comment like that again, whether against me or another editor.

I am sure you meant no offence, I mean none now and hope you have not taken any. I am deeply sorry if you have.

Kind regards, Gothaparduskerialldrapolatkh (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Not denigrating at all. The TARDIS wikia is a place where there are far less restrictive guidelines and policies regarding content.You are obviously a big fan of the show so you should know that I was commenting on the quality of the edits many of which do not meet WikiPedia's standards. What you are missing is that Wikipedia articles should not be written from an WP:INUNIVERSE perspective. You are mixing the TV show, the books, the Big Finish adaptations and other fan created media and then writing as though all of that info applied to the characters. First, that is not the case - the TV show has rarely (if at all) referred to things that happened in any of the Dr Who books. Next these edits are also WP:SYNTH. Continuity errors within the TV show can be mentioned if they are reliably sourced. But continuity errors within the other media do not belong in the articles. If you take a positive suggestion and turn it into an negative then there is little I can do to help you. You should take note of the fact that more than one editor has commented in the inappropriateness of the edits that you are making. MarnetteD|Talk 15:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)`

@MarnetteD:Thanks for the reply. I recognise why my edits were inappropriate and will restrain myself accordingly in future. The reason I felt it patronising and offensive was that you said "this user", thus not directing it to me as a suggestion, rather it came across to me as an exclusive discussion from a position of perceived superiority. I must admit I was pleased when you said "You are obviously a big fan of the show", thanks for this, whether or not intended as an outright compliment. Thanks again,

Gothaparduskerialldrapolatkh (talk) 16:08, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Question for you

Thanks for helping Buddy see what he did wrong. I tend to be very straightforward and that sometimes is off-putting. You apparently read my analysis of the AfD close at Buddy's talk page. Do you find that accurate? Thanks for your help. John from Idegon (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Well I was about to reply John from Idegon and then things went haywire. The whole thing was kinda energy draining so this reply might be shorter than I mean it to be. I think that your analysis was very detailed and pretty much spot on. As you say WP:ORG has stricter requirements for article inclusion. Also as I look at it the article in question has a bunch of info that is liable to change depending on city budgets. I would recommend that any useful info be merged into the "Public services" section in the article for the city. But that is just one editors opinion. WikiP does tend to get stand alone articles that would be better off as a part of a larger article. Look at this gem (er that is not the right word - pebble might be more apt) that I came across today James Bond distribution rights. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:20, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

John from Idegon hitting the "random article" button lead me to this Instituto de Biomecánica de Valencia. It has been unsourced for almost seven years so I wonder if it has WP:ORG problems. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 04:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Incheon Women Artists Biennale

Why did you take the photo off? Since you have artwork that says "Ignore All Rules" on your Talk page I can only assume you're being misanthropic rather than encyclopedic.--A21sauce (talk) 23:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your question A21sauce. First, you do not know me so you do not have the right to assume anything and the last thing I am is a misanthrope. Since you've gotten things off to a rollicking start I will point out that I was quite clear in the edit summaries why I removed the pic. The picture could, quite literally, be from anywhere including Arkansas, Alaska or Tennessee. To quote from WP:PERTINENCE "Images must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic." All the photo shows is a room full of people. We don't know who they are. We don't know where the room is. We don't know if anyone in the pic is one of the artists whose work was a part of that years event? Most importantly we don't see any "art." It should also be noted that there are more men than women in the pic. It tells a reader nothing at all about the Incheon Women Artists Biennale. This sentence, also at the pertinence guideline, sums it up "Poor quality images (too dark, blurry, etc.) or where the subject in the image is too small, hidden in clutter, ambiguous or otherwise not obvious, should not be used." The picture is certainly "cluttered, ambiguous and not obvious" as to what its relevance is to the Biennale. If you would like to get other editors input on this you could ask at the Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images. MarnetteD|Talk 00:33, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Have you been to Tennessee? I lived there. And there are more Asians in that one photo than the whole city of Nashville. You really don't know what you're saying . I will ask on that page. thanks--A21sauce (talk) 01:12, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Nice job on the reply. Tennessee is a big state you know. Also no where in the picture does it say that all the people come from one city. People do fly in from out of town for events events you know. I notice that you didn't reply to any of the policy points. Ah well insults are easier. MarnetteD|Talk 01:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Hmm at a population figure of 18,641 I think you may have overestimated the number of people in the picture. OTOH maybe the numbers went up since you lived there. MarnetteD|Talk 01:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Just to note that I am not the only one with the concern about the indiscriminate nature of the pic. MarnetteD|Talk 19:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I just remembered last month we were told that we couldn't determine a persons height by a picture as mentioned here Talk:Kareem Abdul-Jabbar#Height Identity but now a generic pic is supposed to illustrate what the Biennale was about. Hmmm consistency is lacking. MarnetteD|Talk 21:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Have you been a bad boy again? Big meanie, taking down that utterly non-description image! Drmargi (talk) 21:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Stop

I know what I am inserting are only reliable sources. And if you find the source unreliable, simply add citation needed after it. Those who can find better sources can add them. Why are you simply removing the edits ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.226.45 (talk) 19:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

That is not the way things work. Per WP:BURDEN the sources MUST come with the edit - not later. Also please learn to sign your posts on a talk page with four tildes like this ~~~~. MarnetteD|Talk 19:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Providence (religious movement) protection

Here is the sock protection Been awhile. Cheers Ping me with {{u|Jim1138}} and sign "~~~~" or message me on my talk page. 17:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to find it and let me know about it Jim1138. Only a few months farther back then I had checked :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:59, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

It didn't take much time, I clicked on page history, then clicked on 500, then ctrl+f (find) and prote. Two hits. The first was yours the second the one above. In this case, there are fewer than 500 edits. Ping me with {{u|Jim1138}} and sign "~~~~" or message me on my talk page. 20:26, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I know that Jim1138. I was clicking "older 50" and when I got to July 2014 I figured that was far enough. I also noticed that this edit by Redrose64 had removed the protection on June 28 and your edit today had restored it. I know that was part of a larger fix on your part. There was no large pink box mentioning the protection above the editing field so I just tried to cover any possibilities with my edit summary. In any event it is all good now. Enjoy the rest of you week on WikiP and even more so of. MarnetteD|Talk 21:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I didn't remove the protection - there was none to remove. It had expired at 19:51, 29 April 2015, almost two months before my edit, which was to remove a template that was doing nothing except to put the page in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry R. Of course I meant the template and not the actual protection at every point in my post. Apologies for the confusion. MarnetteD|Talk 23:38, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the change in my sandbox. I copy-pasted the article (from Italy). I did not mean to prevent others from changing it. I prefer to work on them in the sandbox for a "peace and quiet" atmosphere until it reaches a stage that requires input from other contributors. Regards.--MarshalN20 ^Talk 20:30, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your post MarshalN20. No problem at all. These things happen and are easy to fix. I hope that you work goes well. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:15, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Return of FF2?

You may be already seeing this, but User:TheSimpsons98 is editing in a suspiciously familiar style. We shall see what we shall see.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 23:33, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

I already mentioned on Favonian's talk page that I'm not the user you guy's are looking for, and neither is "WikipediaGuy", since I've started this week, I have a whole lot of respect for you guy's, really I do. But I'm still learning things when I edit, and I'm still reading wikipedia's rules and source information of what to do next when i edit some articles information. TheSimpsons98 (talk) 23:39, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

This was a test, and you passed. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 23:52, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Really? TheSimpsons98 (talk) 23:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

And when I say passed, I mean failed. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 23:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FrozenFan2, filed by Winkelvi. BMK (talk) 00:04, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I noticed. Hence the test here. But thanks for the headsup, BMK. ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 00:10, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I shouldn't fail, because I'm not that user, I don't know anything about that user at all. I just don't understand it. TheSimpsons98 (talk) 01:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Quack. Quack, quack! --Drmargi (talk) 01:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok? TheSimpsons98 (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I caught a couple tells and one common spelling error, and added a little note to the SPI filing. They're all adolescent, they're all probably English learners, and they all make a series of similar syntax and grammar errors, notably their run-on sentences. One has a very unusual spelling error I'm trying to find in either of the others' writing. --Drmargi (talk) 02:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Shh, don't tell them or they'll know not to do it next time. Not really worried, though, since they can't seem to help themselves. I don't know why they don't just edit on the Disney Wikia, but the whole sockpuppet/troll mindset eludes me. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 03:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

C'mon folks. Give me some credit. Those are just the obvious ones. There are two or three more that are real doozies that I haven't mentioned. As I said elsewhere, this isn't my first rodeo. --Drmargi (talk) 03:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, should have put the smiley face, 'cause I was just teasin'. :) I know some of their other tells, which was why I made that initial 'test' comment. That worked like I suspected. Sometimes it's so easy, I should be ashamed of myself.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 03:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, it's cool. I got your message and one on my talk page at the same time, so I'm thinking, "How stupid do you think I am?" Then I shrugged my shoulders; it's not worth getting tense about it. You're right, though; he's taken every bit of bait laid down for him. There's no question the three accounts are all the same person. Bet we find they link to one or two that are even older and equally problematic. --Drmargi (talk) 08:04, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I did give a little consideration to whether they might be related to this guy, but thought it would weaken the SPI to mention it, as the match is not perfect -- but it was the impetus behind my suggestion there that they look for sleepers. BMK (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

There were a couple other SPI ideas when FF2 first started editing BMK but both of those came up empty. DD is a possibility as well. Makes me wonder if there are several sockmasters out there whose ultimate master is DD. If only they would look up he word retired and then stick to it. MarnetteD|Talk 16:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Ebyabe, BMK and Drmargi thanks for the posts and for your efforts in dealing with this. Now we just wait for the SPI to run its course. Oh and one more thing TS98 please do not post on my talk page again. MarnetteD|Talk 16:12, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Ebyabe, BMK and Drmargi If you haven't seen the news yet the SPI showed that they all were socks of FF2. Good work everyone. MarnetteD|Talk 05:00, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

And it looks like we've denied their edits. Which means they will have a lot of fun when they come back under other socks. Because let's face it, they're gonna. But until then, to all a good night. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 05:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I just saw. Glad the old sniffer is still working! Congrats to all! BMK (talk) 05:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Incidentally, most of the articles that he preferred are off of my watchlist at the moment, so if either of you see signs of his return, please drop me a note. Thanks. BMK (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Will do BMK. MarnetteD|Talk 23:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

N96

Well that was fun. Let's hope the rest of this weekend is also similarly... interesting?  ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 16:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes a little divertissement (the French version of this word is my fave) to kick of the weekend Ebyabe. Enjoy yours as much as possible. MarnetteD|Talk 16:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

You're famous!

Oh looky here! Someone is a fan of yours ;P Callmemirela {Talk} ♑ 18:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Or is that infamous C. HeeHee. Actually this is only the second time (that I can remember) in my ten+ years here where I my username was used to create a sock. Funny weekend so far I wonder what will happen next. MarnetteD|Talk 19:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Awww, poor baby. I hope your weekend turns out better. Callmemirela {Talk} ♑ 19:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh it is okay so far C. I was referring to the silliness that went on this morning (see the thread just above this one) followed up by this afternoon's stuff. Maybe it is the summer sun that is making them so whacky :-) Cheers MarnetteD|Talk 19:43, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Definitely wacky so far. That's pretty funny though. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Ripping news

Good morning M!
Last night I saw a trailer on BBC One for "a new series of Ripper Street, starting on Friday at nine o'clock" — great news, but surprising, considering their previous announcement that there would be no more at the end of the second series.
Have a lovely Sunday! It is very wet here.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I an so glad that you will get to see it G because it is - well - rippingly good. The revived series is a creation of, and was first shown on, "Amazon UK Prime Instant Video" and must have been a hit since it was renewed for two more series. Over here there are a number of online sites that are creating new and interesting shows. I don't know how big this phenomenon is in the UK but it will undoubtedly keep growing. Fortunately you will get to see it without the annoying commercials (I remember how much of a pet peeve of your this is) that BBCAmerica puts in. I did get the DVDs and enjoyed the series even more than I had the first time. As to the article it does have a paucity of info about the continuation of the show. While it is mentioned in the lede the only followup in the body of the article is the recap in the plot section. Maybe there just aren't as many current editors interested in the show. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I shall "watch" the article whilst viewing series 3. CHeers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:34, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Such a good season! Now the BBC gets it both ways: a strong audience and someone else paying the bill. See if you don't agree with us that Amazon put some real money in this show, and it's all on the screen. --Drmargi (talk) 15:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I shall report back to you in due course on this page. Our beloved BBC needs all the help in can muster just now. Cheers!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Yojimbo, Django and Sukiyaki Western Django

Various sources, including this review from the Spaghetti Western Database (http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Django_Review_(Scherpschutter), Alex Cox's essays on Spaghetti Westerns (10,000 Ways to Die) and interviews with Franco Nero confirm that Django was indeed (albeit loosely) based on Yojimbo - in fact, in Japan, Django was, like A Fistful of Dollars, retitled to explicitly present it as a Yojimbo remake. I'm not as certain about Sukiyaki Western Django, partly because I haven't seen it. What do you say anout all this? PatTheMoron (talk) 12:50, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your question and research PatTheMoron. While the review is interesting it looks like the SWD is WP:USERGENERATED and should not be used as a WP:RS. You could ask about this at the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to see what others think. Also you could see if Scherpschutter's review is available somewhere else on the web. Your mention of the title for the Japanese release is simply a marketing technique (see the use of the titles "A Fistful of Dynamite" and "Once Upon a Time… the Revolution" by the distributor to try and draw in viewers to Duck, You Sucker!) and is not an indication that the films are connected. Now, if you can present the other refs that you mention in a WP:V manner then they could be added to the articles but, again, they must state that the filmmakers were referencing Yojimbo directly and not by way of Fistful... MarnetteD|Talk 14:14, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I can most probably rely on the sources cited in the review, especially since the Mario Gusti (I think his name is) book is apparently a sort of Bible for SW fans. In the interview on Blue Underground's DVD, Nero states that Corbucci was not only influenced by Yojimbo, he was trying to incorporate Kurosawa's sense of black humor. As a side note, Django was distributed in Japan by Toho-Towa, which distributed AFOD on behalf of Kurosawa after he won a copyright claim against Sergio Leone. Its Japanese title not only presents Django as a Yojimbo remake, but as a sequel to AFOD! FAFDM, GBU and DYS were instead released by United Artists in Japan. PatTheMoron (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good PatTheMoron. I would say to proceed as you see fit. I know through experience that the formatting for adding references can be a bit laborious. If other editors have questions as you proceed make sure to post on the talk pages for the articles ASAP. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 02:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I've put the relevant info and citations in the articles, but Template:Yojimbo also includes Sukiyaki Western Django. Is that okay? PatTheMoron (talk) 02:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

If seems iffy to me PatTheMoron. If it were me I would remove it from the template until I could find a ref making a direct connection rather than the "via Fistful" that is currently in that article. But that is just me. Thanks for the work that you have put in. MarnetteD|Talk 03:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)