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thanks

Thank you for unblocking me on en:wikt. Actually I noticed that I was blocked just by chance, because I looked at my [user page]... as you may guess, usually I work on the Italian projects. Thanks again! --.mau. ✉ 07:38, 22 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .mau. (talk • contribs)

yup, I eventually read the thread in the Tea Room of en.wikt! --.mau. ✉ 19:45, 22 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .mau. (talk • contribs)

orange

Hello Angr! [ˈɔɹeɪndʒ] is correct or wrong? Fête Phung (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

It's wrong. I'd transcribe it [ˈɔɹɪndʒ] for General American. Other accents will transcribe the first vowel differently, but I don't think any accent has /eɪ/ in the second syllable. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello Angr! [ˈɔɹəndʒ] is correct too? Fête Phung (talk) 22:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes. A lot of accents don't distinguish between ɪ and ə in unstressed syllables. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 11:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

thank you (pronunciation)

Hello Mr. Angr! It's correct to pronounce [ˈθæŋkʰ | jʉː] with a break? Fête Phung (talk) 13:46, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, it isn't exactly incorrect, but it would certainly be unusual. It's normally run together like a single word (and the [k] isn't aspirated anyway). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Wilson

Hello Mr. Angr! I've heard [ˈwɪɫsɐ̃n] at that dictionary, this pronunciation is correct or wrong? Fête Phung (talk) 14:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I guess as a very narrow phonetic transcription, but the phonemic transcription suitable for a dictionary or encyclopedia would be /ˈwɪlsən/. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
But I've heard /ˈwɪlsʌn/. Fête Phung (talk) 15:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
There's barely any difference between /ə/ and /ʌ/; we use the former in unstressed syllables and the latter in stressed syllables. Some dictionaries (e.g. Merriam-Webster) don't even bother with the distinction and use /ə/ in both stressed and unstressed syllables. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
What do you hear here? Fête Phung (talk) 18:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
A computer-generated voice. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
In fact, have you heard [ˈwɪɫsɐ̃n]? Fête Phung (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
I would have transcribed it /ˈwɪlˌsʌn/, but the point is that isn't a human native speaker of English, so it can't be used as a reference point. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
This pronunciation is correct or wrong? Fête Phung (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Can the word welcome be pronounced /ˈwɛlkʌm/? Fête Phung (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

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Cathach of St Columba

Hi,

I deleted the references to the "Old Gaelic" rubrics in Cathach as it is bullocks, I checked "them" today, to discover they are in Latin. See talk page of the corresponding Wiki article for more details. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.51.73.120 (talk) 13:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikisource

Hi. Can you tell me what's happened to the index on cy-wiki-source please? Seems to have gone astray. There's an error message on the link. Thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't know, but it may have something to do with the fact that Welsh Wikisource apparently now has two namespaces called Indecs: as well as two namespaces called Tudalen:. I haven't been there in ages, so I don't know how that happened, nor do I know whom to report it to. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:58, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Discussion on Talk:Theresa May#Pronunciation

As the above-mentioned discussion could use some more input, I'm inviting all the active members of the phonetics project to participate. Ardalazzagal (talk) 14:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Adminship Anniversary

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Morgan's Wonderland

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@Druid85: This is my only contribution to the article in question. Basically all I did was change "a 25 acres accessible amusement park" to "a 25-acre accessible amusement park", a purely stylistic change that doesn't need source material citation. Please check people's contributions before scolding them for them. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:03, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

ē?

What would Proto-Celtic ē become in Proto-Brythonic? UtherPendrogn (talk) 19:18, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Request to review Syntactic Structures

Hello, I have been working on the article on and off for a long time now. I would be happy if you took some time to read the article and gave me some feedback so that I can improve it in terms of content, language, tone, neutrality, precision, concision, etc. Thanks in advance. Zaheen (talk) 22:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

@Zaheen: Sorry, this is really beyond both my level of expertise and my time limitations at the moment. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Pity. Thanks anyway for replying. Zaheen (talk) 18:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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You are a reference for the age of the Solar System?

"Scientists estimate solar nebula's lifetime" with reference to Angrites ? You must have been an administrator from ... the beginning ...

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Irish names

Hello Angr. Could you help me with a real-world question please? Talk:Irish name#How to list Irish names alphabetically Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:43, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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Walan in Beowulf

Hi there, I saw you have contributed heavily to the Old English grammar page, and wonder if you might help with a related question? The Sutton Hoo helmet#Beowulf page discusses the word wala (or walu), which appears in Beowulf at line 1031 as walan. The manuscript reading is said to offer grammatical problems (e.g., note on lines 1030–1), and has traditionally been emended to wala or walu (e.g., note on line 1031). I would like to add a note to the article on the helmet about this, but am struggling to conceptualize the differences (seeing that one is a "strong feminine" noun, for example, as opposed to a "weak masculine," offers a specific answer that still leaves me confused). Is there a chance you would be able to explain why walan is incorrect; why wala or walu would solve this problem; and what the substantive differences are between wala and walu? Thanks! --Usernameunique (talk) 01:45, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I really don't know either. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks anyways! --Usernameunique (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Lower Sorbian pronunciation

Hi Angr, I am trying to study the pronunciation of this language. But I find some of the spelling-to-pronunciation rules annoying to me. Let me clarify some confusions that I have:

  1. For the world pomoc, why is there an /ɛ/ in /ˈpɔ.mɛt͡s/, even when its spelled with an ⟨o⟩?
  2. The letter ⟨g⟩ seems to be palatalised before ⟨e⟩, unlike other consonants. Is that the only consonant letter that makes this exception?
  3. When does the letter ⟨w⟩ become silent? I suspect before the letters ⟨o⟩ and ⟨u⟩, before consonant clusters, and sometimes before palatalised consonants.

Are there any other irregularities? Thank you in advance. — AWESOME meeos ！ * ([ˈjæb.ə ət məɪ])) 01:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@Awesomemeeos: Question 1: There are a few words where o between a labial and a dental/alveolar is pronounced /ɛ/ in an unstressed syllable. Pomoc is one; sobota is another. There are probably more; I'm sure it's not coincidence that that's exactly the environment in which ⟨o⟩ becomes ⟨ó⟩ in stressed syllables. I don't know why they don't spell it ⟨ó⟩ in unstressed syllables. Question 2: ⟨k⟩ is also palatalized before ⟨e⟩; but ⟨k⟩ and ⟨g⟩ are not palatalized before ⟨ó⟩ when it's pronounced /ɛ/, so it's conceivable there could be minimal pairs like ⟨ket⟩ /kʲɛt/ vs. ⟨kót⟩ /kɛt/, but I don't know if there are actually any such minimal pairs. Question 3: I'd say ⟨w⟩ is silent adjacent to other consonants, not just before consonant clusters and palatalized consonants. This includes the preposition w, so that in the spoken language you can't hear the preposition at all before a consonant-initial word. However, since w always takes the locative, and since the locative never occurs without a preposition, if you hear a consonant-initial word in the locative but you don't hear any preposition before it, you know there was a silent w there. In other words, if you hear someone say "Bydlim Chóśebuzu", what they've actually said is "Bydlim w Chóśebuzu". It's also notable that w is silent before ⟨o⟩ but not before ⟨ó⟩; it's something to keep in mind if you read older texts that don't mark ⟨ó⟩. Also, note that wj theoretically represents a single palatalized consonant /wʲ/, not a sequence of /w/ + /j/, but in the colloquial spoken language this theoretical /wʲ/ is usually pronounced /j/. Another thing to watch out for is that other consonants besides /w/ are often silent inside clusters: serbski itself is pronounced "serski", for example. In the colloquial spoken language, ⟨ě⟩ is usually just /ɛ/ in unstressed syllables, but with palatalization of the preceding consonant, so proběrowaś is pronounced "probjerowaś". Some things I don't have a handle on myself: the exact nature and distribution of all the allophones corresponding to ⟨ł⟩ and ⟨w⟩, and the exact nature of ⟨ě⟩. I've always transcribed the latter as /iɪ̯/, but /ie̯/ might be more accurate (it's certainly less surprising from a theoretical-phonological point of view). Also, in foreign words, consonants that are never supposed to be palatalized come up against vowels that are always supposed to trigger palatalization (e.g. studěrowaś where always-hard d hits always-softening ě, or uniwersita where always-hard s hits always-softening i). I don't know what happens in those cases. Anything else, just ask, though I'm more likely to see your message if you ask at Wiktionary rather than here. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:46, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
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