User talk:Livelikemusic/Talk Page Archive 8

Steffy Forrester

Should it be Steffy Forrester or should I add the Spencer? I am in a edit warring with another user about this however I don't think my explanation are valid. I wanted to bring it up to her talk page but I wanted you're opinion since you are one heck of a great editor, I respect you and the descisions you make.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

@SoapFan12: I think she's still Steffy Forrester Spencer. But this is where fancruft comes into play, and why I hate when soaps marry characters. But I do believe her case is much like Brooke, who goes by Logan Forrester. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

@SoapFan12: Hey, can you please not steal things from my sandboxes? I would appreciate it. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 19:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sorry I was just going to remove it right now. Since, I had no right. I thought a note was needed as soon as possible. However, I'll make up a note myself. Sorry again! I am very sorry! Please respond....  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

It's fine. I just don't appreciate when people just go into a sandbox and Copy/Paste verbatim what someone else wrote. I'm mainly doing the Steffy sandbox to do a cleanup without interruptions from the main page. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 20:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

TMZ

Is TMZ reliable source since a user wrote that the reason why Michael Muhney was fired from Y&R was he bullied and sexual harass Hunter King. Which I found completely unbelievable. Here's the source: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/04/young-and-restless-star-fired-grobing-breast/6/#c8684066#ixzz2pRuJuxPq  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I've read it over, and I do not believe TMZ is reliable at all. It's a trash gossip site. And I wouldn't believe it. Plus, Muhney's sister debunked the rumour on her Facebook page. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Also, can you link Muhney's sister facebook page because I would like to see where she debunked the rumour. I am glad it's not true however I never believed it either.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 10:23, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

@SoapFan12:I do not feel comfortable sharing someone's personal Facebook page without their permission. Sorry. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:13, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

That fine. I understand. But, can you at least tell me her name on facebook to look her up? If that not too much to ask, I just want to see the message. She adressed that message to the fans, therefore I think I have the right to see it. If you're answer is still no than that okay. Cheers,  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 14:18, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry about moving Una Healy to Una Foden. I had not read the common name guidelines when I made the edit.Tomh903 (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:AIV regarding List of The Young and the Restless cast members

I saw the vandalism notice that you left on WP:AIV. Now, I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing about soap operas and I could be completely wrong, but at least some of those edits do not seem to be vandalism, and even if they're wrong they seem in good faith.

For example, in [1], Brod123 adds links for Ashley Bashioum, Mackenzie Browning, Crystal Chappell and Phyllis Summers. When I go to those pages, they seem to me to be that Brod123 purports them to be: the pages assert either that these are actors who play on this show, or characters from the show. I'm sure it's possible that all of those articles are also incorrect, but on first glance they look fine to me. So is there some possibility that you're mistaken about this being vandalism, or am I completely misreading the situation here? Thanks, Deville (Talk) 03:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@Deville: You are mis-reading the situation, because there is no source showing that any of the actors and/or characters are returning to the series. Especially since I also opened a sockpuppet investigation against the user, who is showcasing behaviors from a banned user, too. Plus, Chappell is currently on recurring status with another series, and would not be joining the series. No publications support the claims by this user. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 03:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I see and understand the problem now. Deville (Talk) 03:52, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@Deville: No problem. It's just beyond suspicious that these are the only edits this year has been making, without sourcing anything and exactly resemble a previous member who is now banned since they could not stop making such edits. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 03:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Jordan Ridgeway?!

I didn't realize you were also building an article for the character. I am going to add some information to the characterization, development and reception sections. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 04:04, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

@Nk3play2: Just please, I ask of you, to follow the same reference format. Nothing that annoys me more is inconsistency with reference formatting! But I have no issues with anyone helping out other pages. And yeah, been developing Jordan's page for months and also on some other soap characters. I am going to take your edits and re-work them, as some of the edits I feel didn't need to be made, exactly. Especially since you repeated several references that I already had within the article. And some split sections weren't needed. Characterization should be in development, etc. But it's fine. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 23:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Hi! A barnstar for you! --Nahnah4 Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here! 07:49, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

List of fictional supercouples

Since none of the soap opera editors have acted with regard to this, what do you think I should do about it? Delete the article? Of course...I wouldn't be arguing for deletion simply because the list is not being well maintained. But if even WP:SOAPS could not care less about that list, then it's time to reconsider its importance. Flyer22 (talk) 15:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

@Flyer22: Thank you for bringing this to my attention; I definitely think it's something that should be looked at and I can definitely say I will be in the next day or two (currently working the next few days, with limited online time) so I don't want to make a rash comment, you know? It definitely is an article all editors need to pay attention to or else we will be losing it. I will be putting it on my Watchlist to make sure I can keep tabs on it. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 15:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw that some of the editors, such as yourself, had not posted since I left that message at WP:SOAPS, but now that it's two days later, I figured that WP:SOAPS are not concerned about the matter. I was thinking of pinging a few active WP:SOAPS editors there to see what their take is; then I decided to simply ask you, one of the best soap opera editors we have around. Flyer22 (talk) 16:07, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

@Flyer22: Oh stop that, flattery will get you.... everything. ;-) I'll definitely take a look at it by the end of this week and see what I can do. I think it's something that should be actually protected from IP addresses. But that's just me. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:36, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

On a side note: This IP, which recently falsified couples on the list here and here, has falsified couples on that list before. I can't pinpoint if this IP has a registered account and if I've interacted with that account before (I'd have to check the list's edit history to see if I've reverted that IP before), but I do vaguely remember it. Its edit history shows it to be occasionally problematic at that list. So, yes, that is one returning user to worry about, but not worry too much about. Flyer22 (talk) 13:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

{{Ping|Flyer22} Well, given their user edit history, I find it suspicious they keep added low-reliable sources or none at all to what they're adding, so it'll continue to be removed. Like I said, will be keeping an eye on the page from now on, and overtime will be making some fixes because it's a serious mess right now. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Before you and Nk3play2 possibly get into a WP:Edit war over this, I (after debating with myself whether or not I should) decided to come to you and ask: Why did you revert Nk3play2's fix, a fix I recently mentioned at Nk3play2's talk page? I looked at the online sources, including this archived version of the fourth source, for that entry, and none of the sources support Jax and Carly as a supercouple. Is the reason that you did not revert that IP's entry, and have now restored it, is because you would rather Jax and Carly be on that list instead of Dante and Lulu? And could it be that the reason no one has yet reverted the IP on replacing Sean and Tiffany for Alan and Monica is because they so very much believe that Alan and Monica should be on the list? I understand that people want Alan and Monica on the list, but that source does not support them and, for years, there has been no WP:Reliable source brought forward to support them being on that list. The aforementioned archived source can be used to support them as a supercouple, however.

On a side note: I didn't get conformation that you used to be MusicFreak7676 until I checked your user page a couple or few weeks ago. I initially thought that you two were one and the same because of the "music" aspect in the names and the editing of the same topics (and I likely checked your user page for conformation back then, in 2012), but you also seemed more grounded/more familiar with and stern about Wikipedia rules than MusicFreak7676, and so I didn't think much on whether or not you two were one and the same. Flyer22 (talk) 17:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

@Flyer22: I wouldn't get into an edit-war. I simply went back to a former edit, believing it to be a safe edit; I should've paid further attention to what would've been removed/changed. I was attempting to remove the addition of unsourced couple(s). Nothing was targeted against one couple for another, I'm not psycho like some soap fans when it comes to *their* couple(s). I didn't realize more was going to be changed that shouldn't have been. It was completely innocent and non-malicious. Not my intention to change information that shouldn't have been changed, thought I had gone back to a safe edit of the page. And yes, I used to be MF7676; got the name change back in 2012, as it wasn't *me* any longer. And it wasn't until my name change that I took editing on Wiki more seriously. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 17:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining. And you don't WP:Edit war at all anymore? Even I still get into WP:Edit wars. Flyer22 (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

@Flyer22: If anything, I get into soft edit-wars, with vandals and edits that aren't explained. But I try to never go against the 3RR. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

LOL, all of the people who know what's best for them try to never breach WP:3RR (though reverting vandalism is one of the exemptions from WP:3RR; doesn't technically count as WP:3RR). Flyer22 (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

@Flyer22: Haha, exactly. Though, I do go against if the edit if clear vandalism, etc. But only in extreme cases. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I see that I made this clarification at about the same you mentioned going against WP:3RR for vandalism.

On a side note: You usually don't have to ping me. If I leave a message on someone's talk page, I usually check back for a reply or briefly put that person's talk page on my WP:Watchlist to know if they have replied (unless it's a vandal or someone other unconstructive editor I've sent a warning to via WP:Huggle or WP:STiki). Flyer22 (talk) 18:20, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Haha, sorry. I'm just so used to pinging people, it's kind of something you get used to, haha. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Storyline (album)

Tell me what part of Storyline (album) is WP:CRYSTAL. The track listing is confirmed, the release date is confirmed, the lead single is a Top 10 hit, and the sources are reliable. Nothing in the content is speculative or unreliably sourced. This is not remotely a WP:HAMMER. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:44, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

@TenPoundHammer: Yes, but most of its sources are for a single, not for the album. Take away that, and not enough reliable sources exist. Plus, the album's release is long far off and he is not creditable enough of an artist to have an article for an album based off of that. That was my reason for redirecting the article, however, if I'm protested of it, then I'm protested of it. However, I still believe it is far too early for the album article's creation. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 13:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello (again)

Hi, I just saw an edit summary of yours in the Demi Lovato article, you said that Idolator's reliability had been proved already; is there any discussion where such subject was discussed? If there is, could you please provide me with a link? Thank you in advance! (by the way, sorry for not following the talk page rules) Prism △ 19:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

@Prism: According to this, Idolator is a five-star webzine that is creditable. Simply because it's a "blog" does not automatically deem it unreliable in Wiki standards. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 20:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)