User talk:KatieHutchison

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February 2021

Hello, KatieHutchison. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. ElKevbo (talk) 23:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Stop editing your employer's article until you have read and complied with our policies about paid editing and conflicts of interest. ElKevbo (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

You still have not adequately responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor. If you make any additional edits without complying you may be blocked from editing. Possibly (talk) 15:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry again. Let me know how to rectify. I’m not a techie, just an archivist. KatieHutchison (talk) 02:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. ElKevbo (talk) 02:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

I’m not sure if I’m doing this right. I’m the archivist for Walsh University and I was asked to just do some minor updates since some info was out of date. I didn’t realize I was getting messages about COI, but I think I added that I had one now? It’s not a big deal, but I wanted to correct that info and recently I added some folks to our notable alumni list. My question is, if you can’t have a COI, how will you ever have a knowledge expert? Let me know what else I can do. I have a job at walsh but I’m not getting paid extra or anything . KatieHutchison (talk) 02:37, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Paid-editing concerns

Hello KatieHutchison. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Walsh University, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:KatieHutchison. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=KatieHutchison|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Z1720 (talk) 02:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I just saw I had all these messages. I’ve only ever edited every so often. I do have a job, as the archivist, for walsh university. I thought Wikipedia would actually want someone like me, a knowledge expert, to be adding content. I think I’ve tagged myself correctly now, but please let me know if I didn’t do this correctly. I am not paid extra for these contributions, I just thought they looked outdated and needed updates. KatieHutchison (talk) 02:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

STOP

Please stop editing your employer's Wikipedia article. If you had bothered to read the COI policy and the paid editing policies linked above, you would know that we do not exist as a promotional vehicle for companies and organizations. You have disclosed your COI, which is good. However we do not want you directly editing the Walsh University page. You are free to make requests on the talk page. Should you continue to edit the page directly, I would strongly suspect, based on experience, that someone will block your account shortly. Possibly (talk) 21:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

If you want to add or change something in Walsh University, please use the Wikipedia:Request Edit Wizard. DO NOT edit the article yourself. If you have any questions, please ask them at the WP:HELPDESK. Z1720 (talk) 21:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Again, sorry, just discovered these messages or id have done all that a while ago. KatieHutchison (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry? New(ish) to this

I’m not sure if I’m doing this right. I’m the archivist for Walsh University and I was asked to just do some minor updates since some info was out of date. I didn’t realize I was getting messages about COI, but I think I added that I had one now? It’s not a big deal, but I wanted to correct that info and recently I added some folks to our notable alumni list. My question is, if you can’t have a COI, how will you ever have a knowledge expert? Let me know what else I can do. I have a job at walsh but I’m not getting paid extra or anything . KatieHutchison (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not often need knowledge experts as all articles are based on reliable sources. What we need more are neutral editors who do not have an agenda or bias. If Walsh is your employer, any Wikipedia editing of articles related to Walsh is paid editing. Please suggest article changes via the article talk page as described above. Possibly (talk) 02:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry but "Wikipedia does not often need knowledge experts" is completely untrue and misleading. We do need experts and we welcome them to contribute to articles and discussions about articles.

But we must also be very careful about addressing potential and actual conflicts of interest. The community of Wikipedia editors is very large and very diverse with many editors choosing to remain anonymous so it's sometimes very difficult to know if any one editor is trying to insert biased or misleading information in an article. One particular area where we are wary is editors who are connected to a subject who may intentionally or accidentally promote that subject. So to try to avoid that we ask those editors to refrain from directly editing that article and instead make requests and suggestions in the article's Talk page so other editors who do not have a conflict of interest can possibly help out.

Katie, we welcome your suggestions, requests, and comments about Walsh University. But we ask that you please not edit the article directly and instead use the article's Talk page to make requests and suggestions. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 15:07, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Walsh University) for COI.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Fences&Windows 21:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fences and windows: Given the sections preceding this one, your block is inappropriate (and in any case "for COI" is not a valid reason for a block); please undo it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett, feel free to raise your objection at COI/N where there was a request I responded to: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Walsh University. COI was perhaps not the best summary; clearly promotional language despite repeated feedback would be more accurate. Fences&Windows 21:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I've raised my objection here, where you announced the block you made. I'm sorry to see that you have not yet done the right thing, and undone it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett, there's no need to be so confrontational. The discussion at COI/N was useful and I've unblocked.

KatieHutchison, please make edit requests on the talk page and please use neutral language; Wikipedia is not the same as marketing copy. Fences&Windows 14:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)