User talk:JanetteKerr

Welcome![edit]

Hello, JanetteKerr, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Janette Kerr, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
The five pillars of Wikipedia
Contributing to Wikipedia
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How to edit a page and How to develop articles
How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
Simplified Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Pishcal — ♣ 23:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Autobiography is never a good idea here[edit]

Please do not write or add to an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest in Wikipedia discussion[edit]

Hi Janette and I am pinging Lucasta10 here too - I've seen that others have approached both of you about COI in Wikipedia, but you haven't responded. This place really is a community, and dialogue to arrive at consensus is fundamental to everything that happens here. I just want to explain a bit about why we care about COI, and see if you have any questions or anything. Please do read this, and reply below...

Wikipedia is a widely used reference work, and is a scholarly endeavor. Managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. If you are interested, you can read about some COI-driven scandals in WP here: Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia.

Also, we highly value contributions by subject matter experts; at the same time, experts have some special challenges when they first start editing here. Please see the essay with advice for experts, WP:EXPERTS, which discusses both sides of that coin. One of the challenges is related to COI. Please do read WP:COI, especially the section on Writing about yourself and your work.

So, we manage COI here in two steps, much like it is managed in academia - disclosure and a form of peer review.

People sometimes edit under their real names, as you are doing Janette, and even if they have some obscure username (like I do) they sometimes voluntarily disclose their real world identities, but we neither ask nor require anyone to publicly identify themselves (anonymity is strictly protecting by out WP:OUTING policy). But with regard to COI, our Terms of Use require that people disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" for any edits that they make as part of their job, or as a contractor... and we ask editors with any kind of COI to disclose the relationship that creates a COI.

The best place to make that disclosure is on your userpage -- those pages exist to allow editors to communicate information about their work here to other members of the community (they are not places to advertise, however). So Janette, it would be great if you would make a disclosure here: User:JanetteKerr along the lines of: "I am Janette Kerr and am president of an art gallery called Royal West of England Academy and have my own gallery, Cadogan Contemporary; I am also a painter. I am declaring a conflict of interest with regard to myself, my work, and the galleries." Something like that. And Lucasta10, a disclosure on your userpage, User:Lucasta10 along the same lines (without your real name unless you want to) - something like "I am employee of Janette Kerr's Cadogan Contemporary art gallery. I am declaring a conflict of interest for those topics." (Sorry if any of those statements are incorrect - please correct any inaccuracies when you make you disclosures) If there are artists that the gallery is representing or promoting, you have a COI for articles about those artists as well and you may want to list any of them that you have edited or will make edit requests for. (but again, please don't turn your userpage into an advertisement - it is really for communicating with other WIkipedians) (see how this is a bit complex?)

The next step is peer review. As you know in academia, a manuscript is really vetted twice - first by the publisher, and then by peer reviewers. But in Wikipedia, anybody can directly edit - no intervening publisher or peer review. So -- we ask editors with a COI to restrain themselves from directly editing content where they have a COI, and instead to make "edit requests" on the Talk page associated with the article - this allows the community to review the proposed change for compliance with our content policies before it goes "live". I have added a section to the bottom of the beige box on the Talk page of both of those articles, which has a link that automatically formats an edit request. (just click where it says "click here") We have gotten some really great contributions via edit requests. It is a bit clunky, but given the nature of WP it is the best we can do here. So I hope you avail yourselves of that function.

So - I hope that helps each of you understand COI in WP, why we care, and how we manage it. Please do let us know if you will agree to make those disclosures, and to refrain from directly editing content where you have a COI. I hope you stick around and use your expertise to improve Wikipedia in articles where you have expertise! And you can reply here if you have any questions or comments. I, and I am sure the others who have written to you here, are "watching" this page and will see your answers, and will be able to reply. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 12:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance[edit]

Hey Janette, thanks for leaving me a message. I know it's been a while but I'm still willing to help you out. If you'd like to leave me a message then responding here is fine, I'll be watching the page. Sorry about the confusion regarding references - it's difficult to really get in to. If there's something you'd like me to change about the Janette Kerr page then just suggest it here, along with some kind of reliable source to verify it. You don't have to worry about formatting it or anything, just give me the information and a link and I'll try to do the rest. Thanks again for the message, you're a lot more cooperative than most users who try to edit pages about themselves. Pishcal (talk) 00:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pishcal I have no idea how to respond and where to leave messages - it is not evident. So whether you will see this or not is anyone's guess! Also the other person who has responded to my messages - can't remember who that is now. But he/she seems to think I have my own gallery - which I don't. I'm an artist and they (Cadogan Contemporary represent me.

I am an Academician at the Royal West of England Academy of Art (RWA), Bristol, UK, and for 5 years was the President. Now I have stood down as I've served my time of office. I suppose I can cite the RWA ??

The changes I was making I know simply because they are about me. So how do I include a reference?

PS at the top of this page it says remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (JanetteKerr (talk) 11:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)). What on earth is this? Should this say titles and if so what are they?[reply]

For attention of [User talk:Pishcal|talk]]

If there's some sort of online statement somewhere showing who the presidents are I'd appreciate if you could link it - I can't change the information without a source. Wikipedia has strict rules regarding information in articles of living people, and so without a citation there's not much I can do. As for "tildes", they are this character on your keyboard (~), right above the tab key. Putting four of them at the end of any talk page messages will automatically generate a "signature" of sorts - it'll include a link to your talk page, and signing your talk page posts is generally seen as a convenience to other editors trying to converse with you. Pishcal (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For attention of [User talk:Pishcal|talk]] Hi here is a reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_West_of_England_Academy See also RWA website: http://www.rwa.org.uk/about-us/our-trustees (JanetteKerr (talk) 03:13, 19 February 2017 (UTC))[reply]