User talk:Jackson Frank Wong

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Hello, Jackson Frank Wong, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Ian and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:58, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome to Wikipedia and Wikiproject Medicine

Welcome to Wikipedia! We have compiled some guidance for new healthcare editors:

1. Please keep the mission of Wikipedia in mind. We provide the public with accepted knowledge, working in a community.
2. We do that by finding high quality secondary sources and summarizing what they say, giving WP:WEIGHT as they do. Please do not try to build content by synthesizing content based on primary sources. (For the difference between primary and secondary sources, see WP:MEDDEF.)
3. Please use high-quality, recent, secondary sources for medical content (see WP:MEDRS). High-quality sources include review articles (which are not the same as peer-reviewed), position statements from nationally and internationally recognized bodies (like CDC, WHO, FDA), and major medical textbooks. Lower-quality sources are typically removed. Please beware of predatory publishers – check the publishers of articles (especially open source articles) at Beall's list.
4. The ordering of sections typically follows the instructions at WP:MEDMOS. The section above the table of contents is called the WP:LEAD. It summarizes the body. Do not add anything to the lead that is not in the body. Style is covered in MEDMOS as well; we avoid the word "patient" for example.
5. We don't use terms like "currently", "recently," "now", or "today". See WP:RELTIME.
6. More generally see WP:MEDHOW, which gives great tips for editing about health -- for example, how to format citations quickly and easily.
7. Reference tags generally go after punctuation, not before; there is no preceding space.
8. We use very few capital letters and very little bolding. Only the first word of a heading is usually capitalized.
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10. Do not use URLs from your university library's internal net: the rest of the world cannot see them.
11. Please include page numbers when referencing a book or long journal article.
12. Please format citations consistently within an article and be sure to cite the PMID for journal articles and ISBN for books; see WP:MEDHOW for how to format citations.
13. Never copy and paste from sources; we run detection software on new edits.
14. Talk to us! Wikipedia works by collaboration at articles and user talkpages.

Once again, welcome, and thank you for joining us! Please share these guidelines with other new editors.

– the WikiProject Medicine team Jytdog (talk) 04:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

about this, please review the guidance above carefully. This should have been covered in your training.

Additionally, when you add content to Wikipedia, please be very careful to distinguish what is actually used in medicine or other applications, and what is being researched. As far as I know there are no bio-fuel cells that are actually used. Yet you wrote "One attractive use for biofuel cells is to provide power for biomedical applications such as pacemakers, prosthetics, and in vivo biosensors which can use blood glucose as a fuel source". Please don't do stuff like that. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 04:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jytdog. I would like to start by thanking you for informing me of guidelines regarding the difference between current medical uses and research. That said, I think much of your criticism is out of line. In the first place, the original Bioelectronics page to which you reverted is simply atrocious; it is uninformative and lacks relevant information, sources, and links to related articles. Regarding the use of primary sources, there is no rule against using primary sources and the information we took from them was relevant and comprehensible. Each of the issues you outline in your comment are simply guidelines, and while they may be useful to standardize formats and do help many pages become readable, they are not hard-and-fast rules. The page we created was far superior to the one we found. I appreciate your taking the time to review our work, but it was entirely unnecessary to remove all of the content we added to the page. In the future, please leave specific comments and edits on the sections with which you take issue. Remember that, while you may have a lot of experience editing in a certain way, the main purpose of Wikipedia is to be a source for accurate, abbreviated knowledge on different subjects, and we believe that the edits we made to the Bioelectronics page helped fulfill this purpose.

Jackson Frank Wong (talk) 05:06, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree that speculative comments should not be included. For example, it's not ok to write "This might someday be used to cure cancer" on Wikipedia. We need to stick to the facts of what has been established in the field. If the in vivo application is not established, then simply stick to a discussion of what is known in vitro. MTLE4470 EFP (talk) 14:32, 4 May 2018 (UTC)