User talk:Imfecklar

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Ballistic tip bullet

I'm sorry, but you can't turn the article on ballistic tip bullets (descriptive noun phrase referring to bullets made by many factories) into an article on "Ballistic Tip TM." Nosler and its trademark are already mentioned in the article. Drmies (talk) 19:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

• It's not a matter of using it as an advertising tool for us. The article was incorrect, it would be like having an article on Ford automobiles give reference to Chevy as a history. There was also other errors in the description, for example, several times the words ammunition and bullets was used interchangeably and that is incorrect. Ammunition and bullets is not correct. Legally, no other bullets can be called Ballistic Tip bullets. The other page would work just fine for a page labeled "Plastic Tipped Bullets". Sorry, it's a legal issue. As a side note, I appreciate what Wikipedia does and what you are trying to do but Ballistic Tip is not a noun referring to other company's products.NoslerInc (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
  • That's not the point. The article is not called "Ballistic Tip", it's called "ballistic tip bullet." Other companies can make ballistic tip bullets even if they cannot call them "Ballistic Tip." This is an example of one not made by your company. So is this. You can take this up on the talk page, or at the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms. In the meantime, I would ask you to respect the title of the article (including its lack of capitalization and trademark) and leave it as is. If a consensus on the article's talk page, or the talk page of the Firearms project, reaches a different conclusion, that's another matter and the article can be altered accordingly--but these edits, done by the company itself, cannot stand. Thank you.

    I've posted a notice for other editors at the Content noticeboard, Wikipedia:Content_noticeboard#Ballistic_tip_bullet. Feel free to argue your case there. Drmies (talk) 19:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. No matter what you believe, other people's products are not called ballistic tips. Also, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to be complicated. I really do understand Wikipedia and have the highest respect for what Jimmy Wales has done. We are not trying to use this as an advertising medium but we would like to make it very clear that we did a lot of engineering, manufacturing, and a whole lot of paperwork for it to be our product and it is discouraging to see other companies products being promoted with our name. Even if it is simply changed to plastic tipped bullets, I would like to be able to change the use of ammunition and bullets to be correct. I think we can actually provide a lot of insight into the hunting and shooting sections without everyone having to know it is us. I also apologize about the username, that was my lack of reading all of the rules.NoslerInc (talk) 20:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I suggest you review WP:No legal threats before making any further edits beyond your username change. (And its corollary, WP:DOLT, but NLT is the important policy here.) I understand that you need to defend your trademark, and you might be able to make a case for changing the name of the article through the WP:Requested moves process, but threatening legal action will leave you unable to edit at all. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Sarek, I apologize again. I let my frustrations get the better of me. It will not happen again. I will go through the appropriate channels to resolve this in a more civilized manner. NoslerInc (talk) 21:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. Let me know if you have any further questions about channels you can use -- I know pretty much nothing about ammunition, but a fair amount about WP. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Sarek. Do I have to do anything else to change my username? NoslerInc (talk) 21:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes -- see the instructions in the unblock acceptance.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because your username, NoslerInc, does not meet our username policy.

Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below).

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If you feel that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

{{subst:Ballistic tip bullet|Plastic Tipped Bullets}} The name Ballistic Tip is a registered trademark of Nosler, Inc. and no other manufacturer is allowed to use it. Plastic tipped bullets is a generic term covering several lines and manufacturers. NoslerInc (talk) 21:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

This was supposed to go on Talk:Ballistic tip bullet. I've moved it for you, under your new name.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I was just doing that myself when I saw that it was already there. :) Thanks again.Imfecklar (talk) 15:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)