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Ways to improve 2017–18 Tahiti Ligue 1

Hi, I'm Boleyn. Hhhhhkohhhhh, thanks for creating 2017–18 Tahiti Ligue 1!

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OK, Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

26 October 2017

What is the revert rule? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 15:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Are you referring to the three-revert rule that says one must not revert more than thrice within 24 hours? Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 17:36, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Ping

FYI - You can't "add a ping" like you tried to here.
Pings, or to give them the correct title Notifications, only work if the notification and the signature are both added in the same edit - Arjayay (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017

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OK! Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

KSA only 2 teams, IRQ LIB SYR not to Champions League? Draw in 6 December 2017.

Simon 1996 (talk) 09:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

@Simon 1996: Yes! You can see [1] (in Chinese) for reference and I am welcome you to share a better reference to me about this. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: 等12月6日正式抽籤再講吧! (in Chinese) Simon 1996 (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
@Simon 1996: So I have already added to be confirmed in the text and next time please do not ping me at my talk page, thanks. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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UAE Arabian Gulf League

Hi, can you provide your opinion about the page move here: Talk:UAE Arabian Gulf League UA3 (talk) 08:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

OK! I will leave my opinion later there. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:38, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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RfA

Hi. You will find this interesting. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 03:48, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Lanny Silva

Hi, jusr wondered why you withdrew your comments at this AfD. You are well within your rights to add or remove any comment you like, and if you now feel the article should not be deleted that is absolutely fine. I am however concerned that this change took place shortly after a challenge from another editor which I thought was not right (which was why I commented on it) nor relevant to the discussion. Fenix down (talk) 08:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Fenix down, There are several reasons:
  1. I think this editor may have a strong WP:COI on MEX woman football. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. I think this editor have an improper saying on this AfD. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. I want to watch other editors' opinions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
  4. I don't think this editor 's opinion is not netual. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
So this editor 's behavior is very uninteresting to me. I think withdrawing my vote is better. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
I hope you can relist this AfD. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you have done keeping the list of items for deletion up to date at WP:FOOTY, it's a lot more complete now and is hopefully generating a wider discussion for items that would not normally have been added. Fenix down (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

AfD

I recently notified people about an article for deletion because they had edited or commented on either that article, or those with similar topics. Since you're an apprentice editor, let me know if that's wrong. The audience was not filtered, there was no secrecy about it, and the notification gave no indication of bias or suggesting a particular vote. I'm interested in your input. (And I won't point to the Afd yet out of fear of violating the rules.)--IndyNotes (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Will be replyed later. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 05:56, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Since you notified so many uninvolved people, I think this AfD will be unfair, this was in violate of WP:CANVASS.
In AfD, we may notify the article creator and add AfD tag on the top of article, I think it is enough and some sorting editors will sort into proper WP:WikiProject Deletion sorting so that the notification is enough. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Pinging IndyNotes. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

About me in edit war

In 2018 Indonesia President's Cup, there's someone with public IP address edit the match and didn't make a good edit. Like yesterday, in a match between Perseru and Persebaya, he wrote that the goal scorer was Ilham Udin. Ilham was not in Persebaya and today he did edit Persija already won even though the game is still underway. Even when I wrote this to you, Persija vs Borneo game is still underway. If he edit when the game is over and provide a good data like the real goalscorer, I won't revert it. But I apologize for what I'm doing. Next time I'll be careful when I revert the edit Wira rhea (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

If the IP edited some vandalism edits, you give some warnings like {{subst:uw-vandalism1}} and so on. If you give the IP enough warnings, you can report the IP to WP:AIV. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Okay, from now on, I'll be careful and thank you for your warning. Regards Wira rhea (talk) 14:18, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: More, please see WP:Vandal for more information. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:22, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, as IPs are not necessarily static, if you find that there is an issue with an edit war, then feel free to contact an admin to see if the page should be protected. Sometimes a 1-2 day protection clears up the edit war when going to AIV could take longer. Fenix down (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
+1 Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:29, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: We generally request page protection at WP:RPP and Fenix down is one of admins, so you can also ask Fenix down for help. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:37, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

belated welcome

Keep up the good work! 05:58, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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Request Move

Thanks, but for the future, if after read WP:RM I insist in move a page how i can ask for a Request Move?.--ILoveCaracas (talk) 07:43, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

@ILoveCaracas: Just using {{subst:requested move}} on article talk page and follow instructions:WP:RM#CM to request a move. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:27, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

That is a great help, thanks.--ILoveCaracas (talk) 14:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

TFD

Just so you know, 8 Feb hasn't hit the "Old discussions" list yet, and while technically speaking 168 hours have passed since they were nominated, convention is that we wait until a day has been moved to that section before closing. A good place to keep an eye on things is at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 13:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

@Primefac: But these TfD opens more than 168 hours (7 full day), even it doesn't fall to Old discussions, cheers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
So I closed these. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that's my point. You can close these, but the longstanding convention is that you wait until the entire day has passed. It avoids unnecessary wikilawyering about when discussions were closed, because if it's in the "old discussions" list it's definitely old enough. Primefac (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
OKay! I know now, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

AfD template needs fixing on the page. Not sure how to do that, cheers, Govvy (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

P.S I am not sure, but he might qualify under NFooty for perhaps playing in Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's African Qualifiers, just need to verify or not if thats the case. cheers. Govvy (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@Govvy: The AfD template was corrected by Noyster, and I do not see any source that the player passes WP:NFOOTBALL and played Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's African Qualifiers , Also fails WP:GNG in my mind. Thanks, Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Wasn't looking to GNG, was looking at NFooty, even Olympics qualifies are a pretty high level so I was wondering where that sits in NFooty terms. Govvy (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@Govvy:Yes, but I am afraid that the player hasn't played in Olympics qualifies actually if the source is not reliable or unclear. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 16:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
I had a decent look, not a brilliant look, can't find any match reports for the games, heh. No matter, for a bit there I thought he should pass, now without evidence I am inclined to say good bye to him! Govvy (talk) 16:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

February 2018

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Reads in part 'This is a high level category for deletion sorting. It is strongly recommended you do not add discussions directly to it. Instead, please add them to a more specific category, such as a state and/or relevant subject area.' Your inclusion of WP:Articles for deletion/Kyle Duncan (soccer) at USA AFDs was incorrect. You listed Duncan at New York deletion sorting....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, thanks for letting me know it. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:42, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Wanna ask about 2018 Liga 1

Hi there. I want to ask you about something. Is it necessary to include Attendances by home match played in 2018 Liga 1 like one did by IP 180.253.53.158? I don't want to involve in edit war, so please give me some advice. Thanks Wira rhea (talk) 12:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@Wira rhea: I am afraid this IP is a sock of FredericoHibertus95 (talk · contribs), do you agree with me? If you think this IP is a sock of FredericoHibertus95 (talk · contribs), feel free to revert and write sock of FredericoHibertus95 in summary per WP:BANREVERT and WP:3RRNO and even go to WP:RPP to request semi-protection if it is serious. If you don't think it is, please reply to me here, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: I agree with you. Because I don't think Attendances by home match played is not necessary because I already include the overall attendances. But then, I looked into Thai League and Malaysian League, attendances by home match played sector was present, so I'm a little bit confused. What do you think? If you think it's unnecessary too, then I'll revert it and request to semi-protection. Wira rhea (talk) 11:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: Please remove it per WP:NOTSTATS. It is an non-notable section. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:22, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: And no need to request semi-protection now because sock is not active now to me. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: Sorry for late response. OK then. Thanks for the revert. I was editing 2018 Bali United F.C. season. Wira rhea (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: Look at edit that IP 180.249.233.84 did in 2018 Liga 1. He did it again. What do you think? Wira rhea (talk) 08:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: Next time is better to request semi-protection. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:28, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Due to recent IP disruptive editing, I have post it to WP:RPP, cheers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:05, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: Thank you very much. Cheers. Wira rhea (talk) 23:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: I give up on this guy. He's so persistent. Wira rhea (talk) 07:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: Yes, but now this article is semi-protected for 1 week by an admin. IP cannot edit this page now. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:31, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
After the protection expired (10:14 (UTC) 8 March 2018), if sock comes again, please let me know, thanks!
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: Okay, will do. Thanks.Wira rhea (talk) 11:16, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Perspolis - Alsadd situation

Yeah you're right. didn't realize the rule mentions the points between all the teams that are tied with each other, which brings the third team in the picture too. I was just looking at Perspolis and AlSadd for the tie break. thanks for the fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahab78 (talkcontribs) 21:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

TFD relists

Generally if a discussion has been relisted twice, we don't relist it a third time. No need to revert this one, just giving you a heads up. Usually this is because either by the second relist a consensus has formed, or it's gotten long enough that relisting would actually disrupt the other ongoing discussions. Primefac (talk) 17:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:47, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Additionally, it is better to not relist or do anything with TfD discussions that you have started yourself. Nihlus 08:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Nihlus: Thanks! But I have a question: What can I do? What can't I do when I nominated into TfD? (except relisting) Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:56, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
If you list something for TFD, you should take no administrative actions. You're welcome to comment and reply to other users, but you should be neither relisting nor closing it. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for replying to me. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Why Remove Hide text

I have a question? Why did you remove the list of players?
That list was good for future edits
WP:BALL In this link, I did not see what was wrong with the rules
Players have scored this and done it
The reason for this is your weakness for editing texts
And you will read this article to your work BALLS Persian Wine 22:08, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@ABN13a: There are the following reasons:
  1. I don't see the hidden list in previous ACL;
  2. For your reason, we can easily see the old version source and can copy source from old version;
  3. For my reason WP:BALL: Because we only list top 10 soccers and the player may not play in the future match.
  4. And may also fails WP:NOTSTATS

Also your edits may confuse other editors, so it is better to remove it. Best wishes. And welcome to post your idea on the article talk page. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 05:05, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Want to ask about player name

Hi, I want to ask you about the player name in a page. In 2018 Liga 1 Foreign players for example. User:Afria Nuswantara always like changing the name of N'Guessan Yessoh to Wilfried Yessoh. We know his name was Wilfried Yessoh if you read the page. I mean, if the name was too long I think it's fine for doing it. But since it only two words, is it really necessary? Wira rhea (talk) 02:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Wira rhea: I am so sorry. I have no idea about this. You ask other people or WT:FOOTY. Best wishes. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:13, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Hhhhhkohhhhh: Okay then. Thanks. Wira rhea (talk) 11:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Dream Team

Are we not able to merge all the AfD's into one? Govvy (talk) 09:11, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: No, we can't merge these AfDs due to technical factors. Also, It isn't a matter about these spilt AfDs. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Nm then, it was just a thought. Govvy (talk) 09:37, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Re: Three revert rule

Are you serious? I have clearly mentioned that the information the IP user added is speculative and that's the reason I have removed. IP user kept adding that information in spite of warning. Please explain me how I am involved in edit war?? Coderzombie (talk) 09:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Coderzombie: Sorry, but I did not see you put warnings on IP talk page. So, Next time, please also put warnings on IP talk page, thank you. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
We repeatedly get users who add speculative information on Indian Football related pages, but they stop adding after a couple of reverts, so if they don't stop after that I leave a warning or ask for the page protection, so if this behaviour had continued, I would have left a warning. Coderzombie (talk) 09:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Japanese football

Hello, I've been writing articles for many Japanese football seasons in recent days. But, they are still making them. Please wait for deletion request. --Gonta-Kun (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Gonta-Kun: I saw no context in these articles, please move those to draftspace or your usernamespace to work on, thanks! (Because mainspace can't allow this.) When you complete those articles, then move back to mainspace, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:52, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Mohd Saad Uddin

Please do not delete the page Mohd Saad Uddin He is a player of Bangladesh national football team and Dhaka Abahani. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saiful Islam Jitu (talkcontribs) 14:22, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

@Saiful Islam Jitu: It doesn't mean deleting. It just opens a deletion discussion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohd Saad Uddin in order to require a community discussion. Please feel free to go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohd Saad Uddin to share your opinion, thank you! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 23:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
The AfD discussion will close in at least 6 days. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 00:07, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Afc

Why are you reversing my edits? Please stop. The play-offs shouldn't be inculuded in the league attendance! Nariman.cronaldo (talk) 12:32, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nariman.cronaldo: Only top scorers excluded. Others should go to talk to discuss first. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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@RoySmith:So sorry. But bot will not count votes. Cheers! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Feh on the bot. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Just to let you know I userfied your (successful) RfB to User:Hhhhhkohhhhh/SuggestBot RfB Bellezzasolo Discuss 00:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok! Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Umunnakwe Ugochukwu

Hi. You recently listed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Umunnakwe Ugochukwu in India related articles. But the aricle has nothing to do with India. Subject is from Nigeria. I would have rectified the mistake myself, but I dont know hiw the delsort works. So thought I should let you know. See you around :) —usernamekiran(talk) 13:48, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: Because the player played in Indian football club, so I think it should sort into Indian section. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
My bad. Sorry. I failed to see that. Actually, I didnt even check. I mean, i saw "nigerian professional footballer", and the other sentence of the article, and not the infobox. There was no mention of india in there. Football is weird. One player can play for different nations. I apologise again. Best, —usernamekiran(talk) 14:05, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Not at all. :-) Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:10, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Best runner-up AFC Cup 2018 ASEAN Zone

Hello.
I have calculated all possibilities for the ASEAN Zone.
As of now, Global Cebu or Thanh Hoa still can be best runner-up if they win their last 2 games, that will bring them to 10 points.
In Group F, it's possible that Home United will finish with 10 points, if they lose one of their last 2 games.
In Group H, it's possible that the runner-up will finish with 10 points, if Persija lose or JDT win.
If that happens, the best runner-up will be decided by goals difference. So, Group G still can send their runner-up to the zonal semi-finals.
Cheers Fauzannaufan (talk) 12:31, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Fauzannaufan: Only if Global Cebu or Thanh Hoa is 2nd after today's match (result is win or lose), we can reexist 2nd qualication notice, but it is better to hide 2nd qualication notice when Bali United is 2nd. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Okay then Fauzannaufan (talk) 12:43, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

possible sock

Don't know if you're interested, but I opened this Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shafiqabu, believing Siamfootball is a possible sock. Govvy (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Fb team templates TfD

If the Japan TfDs go through, should all of the remaining fb team templates then be nominated for deletion? Then the process to globally substitute all of them can begin. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:25, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: Yes, but only all replacement of fb template is solved. So I will check these template before posting to TfD. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I have now generated a list of just under 12,000 fb team templates which should be taken to TFD (not including the templates which are already nominated), should I create a mass TFD with these templates and then request that TTObot tag all of the pages with a discussion notice? S.A. Julio (talk) 05:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: Note: This bot has no edit for more than six years, seems very inactive for me. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 05:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
The bot is run by This, that and the other, who is still active. And keep in mind, the bot won't have much of an edit history given it is editing the templates which end up deleted! S.A. Julio (talk) 05:47, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I've created User:S.A. Julio/Fb team TfD with nearly all 12,000 templates which should go to TfD. Given the number of templates, one mass TfD might be the most efficient. S.A. Julio (talk) 07:21, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Sure, go ahead. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Please create the TfD first, then I will run the bot. The reason being, the bot needs to link to the relevant discussion, which it can't do until the discussion is active. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:22, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
@This, that and the other: The TfD has now been created at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 April 20#Mass Fb team templates, could you tag all the templates listed on User:S.A. Julio/Fb team TfD using noinclude tags? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 17:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Ordinarily we do not noinclude the TFD tag, but I can see how disruptive it would be to include it on all these templates, particularly as the outcome of the TFD, whichever way it goes, will not impact the visual appearance of most articles. I will run the bot in a moment with noinclude tags. — This, that and the other (talk) 02:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Sure, I will do this later. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 02:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: The bot task is complete. There were a number of redirects in the list, which were skipped and not tagged, but I think that is OK, as they will presumably be deleted under G6 if the request is successful. — This, that and the other (talk) 04:36, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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Response to "April 2018" on my talk page.

Hi there. Is it about me filling the blanks on the bracket on the page 2018 AFC Champions League knockout stage? I was just following what has been there, i.e. Round of 16 section. The other user, Chanheigeorge was the one who undid my edits. Nonetheless, thanks for the reminder. Aalv15 (talk) 08:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

About this edit [2], cheers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Tables disappeared

2015–16 Liga II, 2016–17 Liga II, 2017–18 Liga II, 2017–18 Liga III etc etc...please do something, are ruined in this moment. Rhinen

@Plastikspork: Can you fix {{Fb cl2 team}}, this template is template-protected now, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 00:12, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Looks like there was a problem with the XFD closer script. I think I fixed them all, but let me know if there are any left. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:17, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Rhinen —Preceding undated comment added 16:31, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).

Administrator changes

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removed ChochopkCoffeeGryffindorJimpKnowledge SeekerLankiveilPeridonRjd0060

Guideline and policy news

  • The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
  • A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news

  • AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
  • When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
  • The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
  • There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

Obituaries

  • Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Kayal Raja Muricken

Dear friend, thanks for your advice that I put the wrong template on this page. I’m unsure why it was wrong. Sorry to take your time, but could you please explain what you meant and what I should now do. Thank you for your patience. Best regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 12:01, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@GorgeCustersSabre: Since the article has a previous AfD, you should renominate a new AfD discussion, please see WP:AFDHOWTO and follow the instructions to process, thanks. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Ah I see. It had already had an AfD. Got it. Thanks so much. George Custer's Sabre (talk) 13:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
@GorgeCustersSabre: So do you want to post it to AfD as 2nd nomination?Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:44, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Repinging GorgeCustersSabre Thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes I’ll do it when I’m able tomorrow. Thanks again. :-) George Custer's Sabre (talk) 14:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Templates

Lately appears Relegation to Relegation or Promotion to Promotion/Relegation like here: 2015–16 Liga III. I resolved the problem for the current season ex: 2017–18 Liga II or 2018–19 Liga III, but all the league tables from the previous seasons have this problem...Rhinen

@Rhinen: Seems Frietjes (talk · contribs) edited {{Fb cl3 qr}}, see [3], and this template is template-protected, please post this on her talk page, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 00:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
@Rhinen:, my fault. I had migrated some syntax from the old {{fb cl qr}} where it actually did something, but did not realize people were using these parameters in {{fb cl3 qr}} where it did nothing. I have undone the edit and added some tracking to see how widespread of an issue this is. Frietjes (talk) 11:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

noinclude !

If you apply a speedy tag to a page which is transcluded, you must bracket the speedy tag with <noinclude></noinclude>. Otherwise you will send other pages to CAT:CSD, eg. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Today. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I am busy at that time. Next time, I will pay attention. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

MfDing pages by sock

It really isn't necessary to create deletion discussions to get userspace sock pages deleted. It's just time-wasting for the editors. If those userspace pages aren't harmful to Wikipedia then it's best to let them be. It's not like the blocked user can achieve something if those pages aren't deleted. KingAndGod 10:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@KingAndGod: We cannot tag these pages as CSD, so I had to post it to MfD. Feel to speedy delete these when an admin sees it, cheers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Great work with handling the sock issues but I think leaving a note on an admin's page personally asking them to delete the pages would be better. Just my thought. Thanks anyway. KingAndGod 10:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Username

Sorry to bother you about this, but your username is difficult to type out or reference easily to others, so you might want to think about a rename at some point. I think I saw another user point this out to you before as well. There isn’t anything technically against it in UPOL, but it just makes communicating more difficult and if someone isn’t familiar with you they might think you’re a vandal. If you want to request a rename you can do so at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Hhhhhkohhhhh. Concerns have been raised that your username may be incompatible with policy. You can contribute to the discussion about it at the page for requests for comment on usernames. Alternatively, if you agree that your username may be problematic and are willing to change it, it is possible for you to keep your present contributions history under a new name. Simply request a new name at Wikipedia:Changing username following the guidelines on that page, rather than creating a whole new account. Thank you. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:44, 15 May 2018 (UTC) )

Hi Hhkohh, Since you have been renamed recently. Usually, It is advised to established users to register the previous name as an doppelgänger account to prevent impersonation. Have a nice day. :) ‐‐1997kB (talk) 10:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@1997kB:  Done, thank you. Hhkohh (talk) 11:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Neha Chowdhury (May 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by David.moreno72 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Hello, Hhkohh! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! David.moreno72 11:53, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
@David.moreno72: So sorry, could you post this message to the creator Kaustavsinha10, thanks! Hhkohh (talk) 11:58, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 24 May 2018

Please comment on Portal talk:Contents

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed Al Ameer sonAliveFreeHappyCenariumLupoMichaelBillington

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
  • There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
  • It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.

Arbitration

  • A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

2018 Liga 1 Personnel and kits

Hi, I want to edit 2018 Liga 1#Personnel and kits just like one in 2017–18 La Liga#Personnel and sponsorship. Remove the external links from the sponsors and make references in one place (in kit manufacturer). Please take a look at my subpage User:Wira rhea/Liga 1#Personnel and kits. What do you think? If you agree then I'll put it in 2018 Liga 1 page. Cheers. Wira rhea (talk) 05:22, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

@Wira rhea: I have created User:Hhkohh/2018 Liga 1 and will decide later, thanks! Hhkohh (talk) 10:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
@Hhkohh: So, have you decide it yet? Wira rhea (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@Wira rhea: Sorry for delay reply. No harm but I think it is better these sponsors' references should list after all sponsors for each team, I will draft a new table in a few days, what is your opinion? Hhkohh (talk) 06:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hhkohh: That's great. But I make a new table that mention all sponsors shirt each team like 2017–18 La Liga#Personnel and sponsorship in 2018 Liga 1#Personnel and kits. So I mentioned sponsors and their position in the shirt. Maybe you can draft new table based on that? Wira rhea (talk) 12:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Sure. Wira rhea, I have changed some position, but may have a further change based on that if necessary. Hhkohh (talk) 12:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Okay then. Thanks Hhkohh. Cheers. Wira rhea (talk) 12:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Forever alone

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seems no different than the others that were recently deleted? Frietjes (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

 Checking... Hhkohh (talk) 14:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
@Frietjes: Posted to TfD, you can help me merge discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of YouTubers

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The issue is being dealt with

If you check my history i left a message to a admin to sort the mess out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsi786 (talkcontribs) 11:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

@Arsi786: I saw it, but you should not violate 3RR rules at all. Hhkohh (talk) 11:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay I did not know the ruling so thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsi786 (talkcontribs) 11:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Possible sock?

Hello, you've done a fair bit of work on SPIs for Josh.172 (talk · contribs). What do you think about User:Accesscrawl? Account has done a ton of bad AFDs and bad deletion sorting, and a lot of wrong drive-by tagging, plus the usual requests for permission [4]. Just a hunch. Thanks, The Mighty Glen (talk) 18:47, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

@The Mighty Glen: Not enough evidence at this time but I will keep on them. Hhkohh (talk) 02:25, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Move review comments

On the Wikipedia:move review pages, I had recently made edits to the move review decision options section you have reverted. The reason why I made those edits is because it appears the Don't relist outcome is the same thing as the Endorse outcome. Then I combined the Endorse decisions because it appears that regardless of whether the page was moved, it requires no action to be taken. --2601:183:101:58D0:6857:8FD9:8A96:84E9 (talk) 18:51, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

No! You should open a discussion on WT:MR before changing something there. Hhkohh (talk) 22:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I have opened up a discussion on WT:MR. Can you please consider notifying the appropriate people of the discussion? 2601:183:101:58D0:6857:8FD9:8A96:84E9 (talk) 23:16, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Galobtter, can you help me this, thanks! Hhkohh (talk) 10:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
You can notify WT:RM, which has a lot of watchers who might be interested in this Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Aaron Mason

HogiesStillSuck is a sock harassing me by undoing my recent edits. Please do not encourage him. SPI case is RJCola. DuncanHill (talk) 02:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: Not confirmed/blocked yet, please wait the SPI case close. (although duck to me) Hhkohh (talk) 02:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Oh I give up. DuncanHill (talk) 02:25, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
He's blocked now, can you restore the uncontested move request? DuncanHill (talk) 02:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I will restore per WP:BANREVERT. Hhkohh (talk) 02:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@DuncanHill:  Done Hhkohh (talk) 02:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks DuncanHill (talk) 02:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Supreme Leader of Iran

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Article deletion proposal

Apologies. I mistakenly believed that the team list on the team's website would be a sufficient reference to say that she does play for a professional team. Timeoin (talk) 06:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Timeoin, You are welcome after I read User talk:PamD. Hhkohh (talk) 07:05, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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Move review comments

On Wikipedia_talk:Move_review#Move_review_decisions, nobody has replied to it since June 15. The discussion has been running since June 10 which is at least a week. Is there any consensus to changing the comments on the move review table? --2601:183:101:58D0:5D57:4B1C:A325:C74C (talk) 12:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Please be paitent. I will go there in a few days. Hhkohh (talk) 15:32, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit war

Kpgjhpjm and Binksternet are repeatedly vandalizing Gong articles and then acvuse me of being a sockpuppet. Bink removed messages from my talk page. His edit history shows a long period of aggressive vandalism. 166.182.84.172 (talk) 08:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I have NOT vandalized anything. Binksternet and Kpgjhpjm are the vandals. 166.182.84.172 (talk) 09:01, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

See WP:RPP page history. Binksternet, seems this is a serious matter, if necessary, please post to WP:ANI, thanks. Hhkohh (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

IP blocked

Hello Hhkohh. I blocked the IP you reported at WP:AN3. Let me know if the problem continues. I also blocked his /64 range for 72 hours, which may possibly help. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:43, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure. Hhkohh (talk) 17:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Squad templates

Good afternoon, Since a few days ago, all the squad templates are full opened, not folding anymore. Example -> Cristian Balgiu. Rhinen —Preceding undated comment added 13:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

 Checking....Hhkohh (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
all the templates look to have this problem 2017–18 Divizia A (men's handball) (bottom of the page). Thanks for checking! Rhinen
@Rhinen: I just fixed/manual set 2017–18 Divizia A (men's handball) and seems work now. And I will look at another one tomorrow and try to fix. Hhkohh (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
It's working now, Divizia A and other competition templates, such as Liga I, squad templates still have the problem Mihai Roman but I don't understand why appeared this problem, nothing important doesn't seem to have happened...thank you very much for your help! Rhinen PS. Here for example 2018–19 Handball-Bundesliga the same problem, all the competition and squad templates seems to have this problem...
Rhinen, if you see this kind of problem, you can manually set by adding |state=collapsed like [5] in the future, if it still not work or you can't fix, you can repost here, thanks. Hhkohh (talk) 12:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Template

Hi, I hope that this templates collapsing problem will be solved soon, it's very annoying...Now I see that when are 2 templates -> Iustin Popescu are not collapsing anymore, but when are 3 -> CS Dinamo București (men's handball), or more -> Liga I the collapsing system is working. Rhinen

 On hold Hhkohh (talk) 22:48, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Rhinen:  Checking... Hhkohh (talk) 15:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Seems like {{Football squad}} has some problem. Hhkohh (talk) 03:29, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
There wasn't anything wrong with the template. The JavaScript that collapses navboxes had a bug since June 3 where it did not autocollapse when there were two of them, only more than two. This is now fixed. — JJMC89(T·C) 15:52, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Pinging Rhinen Hhkohh (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Rhinen

Since you lack self-awareness

Discussion is now at WP:AN3. Hhkohh (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

You pointlessly reverted 3 times and come threaten me? Nergaal (talk) 09:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The Guy History is adding articles that are not correct and is stating false information i think he is the same Ip that I was in an edit war in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsi786 (talkcontribs) 20:30, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

 Checking... Hhkohh (talk) 23:05, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
@Arsi786: For the first one, I do not see any evidence on edit warring recently, you can provide diff to me. For the second one, stale now and page is extended-confirmed protected now. Hhkohh (talk) 23:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Did you know

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Cho Hyun-woo

Hi, Hhkohh! Can you close discussion and move to Cho Hyun-woo => Jo Hyeon-woo? I'm South korean. AS you see on discussion, Reliable sources use Jo Hyeon-woo spelling. Some football statistics sites and press use Cho Hyun-woo. This is just mistake by ignorance or wrong information. Actually, In this issue, No need discussion. Do I wait more? Footwiks (talk)

 Not done until July 3. @Footwiks: I have noted at talk page. Hhkohh (talk) 14:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
This page should be opened a move discussion and run discussion at least 7 days. You can also see S.A. Julio 's talk page. Hhkohh (talk) 15:11, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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