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Brawl feedback

Thank you for the feedback at User talk:Donald Trung (revision 630165708). I understand the issues, I also get why w3schools suggested selecting the input field contents now. The way it's intended to work is that when you click/tap the text field the link is copied to your clipboard and (if the link was copied to the clipboard successfully) the text field disappears. But this is known to be maybe problematic on Android[1] and maybe other mobile devices as well as any browser without permission to write to the clipboard, which is why the text field is provided to copy from. I'll improve it. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

  • After fixing most issues you reported I forgot about the possibility of creating infinite permalink text fields. This should be fixed now. Btw, I forgot to say: Legal isn't really at meta either. If you want to contact them, just mail legal@. I do it all the time. And it's odd you don't get notifications here. Maybe it's your m:Special:GlobalPreferences? Or is it a known Wikipedia:THEYCANTHEARYOU issue? And one more little thing: it's wikt:en:bawl, not wikt:en:brawl. But I picked "bawl" as a slightly obscure word on purpose so it's understandable. I added an image to User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl as an extra hint. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Alexis Jazz, Works great now, thanks for all the fixes. (Imagine a smiley here). --Donald Trung (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC) Donald Trung (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Great to hear! For smileys there are actually several solutions accessible on the "Editing" tab in the settings for Bawl:
        • If you enable "Convert BBCode markup language" you could type ":-)", ";-)" and ":-(" to insert those smileys. (works only on projects that have the {{Smiley}} template)
        • You could enter {{Smiley|:-)}}:<<:)>> as a custom insert to get a smiley button.
        • If you'd rather stick to the latin alphabet to stay in the flow, add a custom regular expression like /(^|\n| )happyface/$1{{Smiley|:-)}}/g and type "happyface" anywhere to insert a smiley.
        — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-08

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The Loktak Folklore Museum or the Thanga Folklore Museum is a folk museum in Thanga Island in the Loktak lake of Manipur. It cares for and displays a collection of artistic, cultural and historical artefacts associated with the Loktak lake. The museum preserves the folk customs and beliefs, folk medicines, folk literature associated with the Loktak lake.

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Recent changes

  • Special:Nuke will now provide the standard deletion reasons (editable at MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown) to use when mass-deleting pages. This was a request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [2]
  • At Wikipedias, all new accounts now get the Growth features by default when creating an account. Communities are encouraged to update their help resources. Previously, only 80% of new accounts would get the Growth features. A few Wikipedias remain unaffected by this change. [3]
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19:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Issue with Brawl

@Alexis Jazz:, I seem to have an issue with Brawl where it loads one of the images as full-size, namely "the black box with an arrow in it" or a stripe. At least I noticed it while reading old archives so it could be an archive-specific issue. I didn't test to see if it's in desktop yet but it most certainly affect the mobile interface.

Unrelated, but is "deadnaming" now a Wikipedia policy? I came across this article and noted that they removed all of her former names from the original article. As far as I'm aware the issue of "deadnaming" is still a controversial one in the trans-community and I don't really see how censoring information simply because the subject of the page (allegedly) wants it is a good interpretation of the whole "Wikipedia is not censored" policy. Unless I've missed a vote somewhere that says that we must censor historical names like "Khan Hok Hian" and "Iwan Robyanto Iskandar". Soon we'll be asked to stop "deadnaming" cities like you can't refer to the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire as "Constantinople" or the ancient city as "Byzantium", no it was always "Instanbul". Alright the latter is a bit of an exaggeration as the slippery slope doesn't always manifest itself, but I just found it odd that the current version of the article reads like it was written more by activists than through a NPOV, likewise the term "Sex confirmation surgery" instead of the more mainstream "sex reassignment surgery". In fact, as someone who knows quite a lot of trans people and frequent their circles needing the surgery to be considered trans is also a controversial issue so it seems like, at least in this instance, Wikipedia is taking the side of one part of the debate.

Excuse the double ping, I accidentally posted this to the Wikimedia Commons before I noticed that I was on the wrong user talk page. --Donald Trung (talk) 05:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

For the record, I wasn't asking you to make these changes, I was just wondering if there was a village pump discussion or something I missed as I know that you're more of a meta-pedian on this website than I am. --Donald Trung (talk) 08:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
This is the offending CSS from somewhere in MediaWiki: .content a > img, .content noscript > img { max-width:100% !important; height:auto !important}. Doesn't affect desktop, so I hadn't noticed. Only affects images in "a" tags (.content a), as the speech balloon image is wrapped in a span tag that wasn't affected either. This is now fixed, thanks for reporting! First time I hear the term "deadnaming" I think. Any history of name changes of a subject (regardless of the reason) should be described in articles I think, but I'm unaware of any specific policy or vote. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz:, Regarding the whole "deadnaming" thing, I remember there being a discussion about it at the Wikimedia Commons a few years ago and whether or not it should overrule the most common name, that is if a person has legally changed their name that any mention of a previous name should be removed and old files retroactively renamed, there was no consensus to change it. As someone who is quite involved with trans people in real life, who has an aunt (formerly "uncle"), old school mates, and friends that have transitioned from male-to-female, and as a cross-dresser myself I noticed a major change in the way trans-activism is conducted, mainly that before 2016 or so trans-activism was mostly about acceptance and recognition but at some point it became outright antagonistic towards "cis-people", the concept of "deadnaming" is such a thing where all and any mention of an old name must be removed, even from old documents like birth certificates. This wasn't even an issue with trans-people before this, but since the concept was introduced it became seen as "bigoted" and "transphobic" to use a "deadname", and today a trans-person must see it as offensive to fit in with "the community". The issue is the political leanings of most Wikipedians here, that is that accepting purported "Left-wing" activism is fairly acceptable even when it outright violates wiki-policies, think for example a recent Sign Post issue where a Black Feminist class had a wiki edit-a-thon and people jumped in to defend them as being "pro-diversity" rather than objectively analysing their edits causing an autistic editor to be harassed over even questioning the notability of an Afro-Feminist organisation's article that was written in a promotional way using primary sources. Being politically far-left myself I do have positive leanings towards the progressive ideology but I would never let my edits reflect this stance, but I have noticed that many Wikipedians do feel like politics override neutrality. But this is a deep topic a bit too nuanced to get into now.
Thank you very much for fixing the issue, oddly enough Brawl doesn't appear on non-archived pages on mobile at all anymore, I think that you should have one tab in mobile just to check it out. As for needing testers, I am convinced that the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't have or even know anyone that primarily uses the mobile interface to edit, it seems like a deliberately handicapped experience that is a hell to work with and actively discourages mobile users from actually making content edits and hides almost anything useful or simply makes it unavailable. Despite most new readers being on mobile devices very few edit, this is mostly because the interface isn't actually designed with the "prosumer" in mind (producer + consumer) and seems actively consumer-only. This is also why talk pages are hidden from most mobile users and why categories and such are invisible. In fact, other than Cullen I can't even think of a predominantly mobile editor other than myself... --Donald Trung (talk) 08:37, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-09

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Shapur I's victory relief at Naqsh-e Rostam is located 3 kilometers north of Persepolis. It is the most impressive of eight Sasanian rock carvings cut into the cliff beneath the tombs of their Achaemenid predecessors

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Tech News: 2022-09

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Recent changes

  • When searching for edits by change tags, e.g. in page history or user contributions, there is now a dropdown list of possible tags. This was a request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [8]
  • Mentors using the Growth Mentor dashboard will now see newcomers assigned to them who have made at least one edit, up to 200 edits. Previously, all newcomers assigned to the mentor were visible on the dashboard, even ones without any edit or ones who made hundred of edits. Mentors can still change these values using the filters on their dashboard. Also, the last choice of filters will now be saved. [9][10]
  • The user group oversight was renamed suppress. This is for technical reasons. You may need to update any local references to the old name, e.g. gadgets, links to Special:Listusers, or uses of NUMBERINGROUP.

Problems

  • The recent change to the HTML of tracking changes pages caused some problems for screenreaders. This is being fixed. [11]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 March. It will be on all wikis from 3 March (calendar).

Future changes

  • Working with templates will become easier. Several improvements are planned for March 9 on most wikis and on March 16 on English Wikipedia. The improvements include: Bracket matching, syntax highlighting colors, finding and inserting templates, and related visual editor features.
  • If you are a template developer or an interface administrator, and you are intentionally overriding or using the default CSS styles of user feedback boxes (the classes: successbox, messagebox, errorbox, warningbox), please note that these classes and associated CSS will soon be removed from MediaWiki core. This is to prevent problems when the same class-names are also used on a wiki. Please let us know by commenting at phab:T300314 if you think you might be affected.

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22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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