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Please Help

Hello Omarcheeseboro. Recently an article I had written was deleted by user Nuttah. Not having logged on in a while, I did not notice this happening. You were very helpful to me in the past. Two questions:
1. Is there any page history of a deleted article (in this case the article was "Gun Politics in Sweden," but was also cross referenced as "Swedish Gun Laws")?
2. It seems this user has many complaints on his talk page related to deletions of articles. He/she seems to spend a great deal of time deleting wikipedia articles. I have asked him for an explanation, but seeing the many many unanswered requests for explanation by other users, I am not optimistic. Can anything be done about a user abusing the ability to delete articles?
Thank you for your time - SB Pete (talk) 01:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Well I see in your talk page you received the alert about the page. As for page history, there are instructions on how to retrieve it on the following link, which probably has other things of interest to you as well - Wikipedia:Why_was_my_page_deleted?. Good luck. If you need help in recreating it, let me know. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 02:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for the response. I have read through the Wikipedia:Why_was_my_page_deleted? section and checked the Wikipedia:deletion_log. Unfortunately, it appears I have come to this rather late in the game. The article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Politics_in_Sweden) was deleted on Dec 5. The deletion log does not appear to go back that far.
- Is there another way to access the old content short of contacting the [who can provide copies of deleted articles]?
- If not, do you have any suggestions on whom I should try to contact in order to obtain a copy of the old info?
Thanks again for your time and help.72.194.220.3 (talk) 22:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I'm sure any of those admins will give you a copy of the deleted text, but try to find one who has been active recently. Click on their name and then the "User contributions" link on the left side toolbox. If they have a bunch of recent edits, you'll be more likely to receive it in a timely manner. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. I am trying to contact one of them now. If that doesn't work, I'll just try a different one. Thanks again for the helping hand. Have a happy New Years! SB Pete (talk) 23:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Jay Farrar

Thanks for the link. I'm not trying to give a breakup story that favors one side or the other, but sources besides the Kot book (which is meant to chronicle Wilco more-so than UT) are pretty hard to come by. This is the first time that I've seen the Pitchfork article, so I incorporated it into the text. Teemu08 21:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Keep up the fine work

Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol and I saw your CSD tags on those bizarre Oobi Band articles. I just wanted to thank you for doing a great job in keeping Wikipedia clear of such nonsense. Keep up the fine work! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

As a post-script, I reported the editor creating these Oobi Band articles and he was just blocked for one month. Thanks, again, for raising the alert on this muck. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I was wondering if I should report the user to be blocked, but thought it would get complicated because most of the offending material would be deleted pages. I guess you could submit delete logs? (I'm pretty new to some of this more advanced Wikipedia stuff). Also, I was planning on watching the user's contributions. Do you know why you can't set a RSS feed (or any kind of alert) of a User's contribution history page? It would be much easier to follow vandals that way. Thanks again! --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 13:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, blocking administrators can access deleted pages, so they could verify what was happening. Whenever you are in doubt, feel free to ask anyone here. Hope to see you around! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


Terps Page

Thanks for the message. And sorry that you made the trip to Charlottesville for such a lousy showing... I barely had the heart to make the updates about it. I'm living away from the DC area these days, but was in town to attend the Cal game. Gave me pretty high hopes for the season and thought they were a clinch for the Atlantic division, but I guess they haven't shaken the curse yet. Looks like the ACC is anyone's conference still, and we'll have to wait and see how the Terps handle the second half of their schedule... Strikehold (talk) 21:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you the Omar Cheeseboro, who played WR for the Terps under Vanderlinden? Strikehold (talk) 05:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Art Loeb Trail

Nice job. I did this trail and surroundings a lot in the 80s when I was at NCSU. Nothing like this in Texas! Thor Five (talk) 01:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


Huge Apologies

HUGE APOLOGIES, script had an error here when I tried to username block the one you'd warned. Will report. Apologies again, was a complete error. TravellingCari 01:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

01:54, 9 October 2008 Travellingcari (Talk | contribs | block) unblocked "Omarcheeseboro (Talk | contribs)" ‎ (HUGE APOLOGIES,script had an error here when I tried to username block the one he'd warned. Will report)
Working on it, not sure why you'd still be blocked. Trying to fix now. TravellingCari 02:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The requested IP address or username is not blocked. and Error: Block ID not found. It may have been unblocked already. Try again? TravellingCari 02:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it, I think. Try now. TravellingCari 02:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Whew! Again, big apologies for interrupting your fix in the first place. I notified the script creator to alert of the bug. Thanks for understanding TravellingCari 02:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


Hello,

Thank you for your revision on this article. I'm French and may (/must) have made mistakes : if you would have time to have a look at it, I would be glad !

Thank you,

Remi Mathis (talk) 15:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I made some more grammer corrections. Nice article --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks for the heads up about those tags. That works well. -Pete SB Pete (talk) 00:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I will be adding some info as I have time and inclination, but I have noticed that there is very little info regarding firearms laws by country and what exists is sadly lacking in format. The format I laid out there is obviously just a suggestion but hopefully the various pages by country can eventually start to incorporate those data fields (andpossibly others I haven't thought of) in some kind of unified and comparable fashion.SB Pete (talk) 00:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. Having consistency amongst each of the country's articles is the way to go...If you're looking for help I suggest writing on the talk page of other editors who have contributed on the same type of page, or you can check out this Wikipedia:Expand. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 00:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


  • - Hmmm, ok. How would I go about finding or starting such a talk page?
  • - Also, this kind of info is more or less available, but tough to access because of language barriers. Any suggestions on how to overcome that?

Thanks again. SB Pete (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, you could find similiar articles about country's politics. Click the 'history' tab of the article and try to spot an editor who has contributed a substantial amount to the article. Go to the editor's talk page (like you've done with mine) and leave a message explaining what you're trying to do. They may be glad to help out. I can't guarantee this will help, and it may take some time, but it's the best way I can think of trying to find help.
About the language barrier, again, finding folks who has edited similiar articles on the country is a good start. They're most likely bi-lingual. Good luck. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 01:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


Third Opinion

As requested on the Third Opinion noticeboard, I have placed my opinion on the dispute at the Maryland_Terrapins's article. I urge all editors to discuss concerns on the article's talk page before reverting the actual article. Lazulilasher (talk) 17:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


Mainspace

Hi do you realize this is in the mainspace? [1] --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scott_Free"

Hi Omar,

No, I'm not familiar with mainspace - is there a problem?

--Scott Free (talk) 01:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps namespace is the better term for it. It looks like a talkpage, not part of the encyclopedia. Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

OK cool - I was archiving a talk page and I accidently pasted it on the namespace. So I guess that it should be deleted. I don't know how to do that. I blanked it, anyway.

--Scott Free (talk) 01:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Please learn the speedy deletion criteria before trying to apply them. TrekWars, while it probably should be deleted, bears no resemblence to Vandalism whatsoever. In any event, the truth of the matter shall be decided soon enough. WilyD 14:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you denying that it's blatant misinformation? Note - Blatant misinformation is pure vandalism, a criteria for CSD. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Unlikely to be true is not the same as obviously not true.
"Ralph Goodale is notorious as the King of Earth's 11 moons" is blatant misinformation. Something that's merely unlikely is not. WilyD 14:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I am very curious why it was deleted twice already as vandalism. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Funnily enough, the first AfD was closed as G4, despite there being no previous deletion discussion (and hence, no elidgibility for G4). I guess you can't trust people to know the CSD before hitting delete either. *sigh*. WilyD 14:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I also wonder why this is "unlikely to be true". Does the fact that there are no google results about this movie (except a message board post done as a joke) mean anything? I mean, you think something like this would have a lot of coverage, correct? Well I suppose I should line up at the theatre and get my ticket --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 14:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Unreal! The article got speedy deleted nom per pure vandalism and was deleted by an admin for that. Now I'm really confused WilyD, can you help? Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TrekWars_2 --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Nice work :)

Quick work at Reinforcing success, thanks! :) Alastair Haines (talk) 15:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem.. In case you didn't know, you can see a full list of stub categories here. [1] --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Now bookmarked. TY. :) Alastair Haines (talk) 09:40, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


DYK for Massanutten Trail

Updated DYK query On 10 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Massanutten Trail, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 06:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello Omarcheeseboro, I also posted this question on WilyD's talk page as this user had some interaction with my content as well. The other day you deleted some content I added to wikipedia, since I have read a bit more on how to handle copyrighted material. Since Phoebe Wall Howard has written the appropriate emails to both Wikipedia permission email address allowing GFDL from her site http://www.phoebehoward.com to be hosted on Wikipedia. Can the pages and image now be reinstated? Please post a reply to my talk page if you please. Thank you very much, Pmachac (talk) 07:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey - thanks for making those changes on the alt.country page.

The second para in the history still needs work. E.g. the "however" in the first line has no force, since the rest of the sentence basically says the same thing as the first paragraph (and so there's no contrast!)

Cheers, Cathalwoods (talk) 01:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that there's some poor wording there. I will try to clean it up in the next few days.
A broad thing like a music genre is a difficult thing to write a Wikipedia article on. There was someone inserting Bottle Rocket spam in a bunch of articles, but somehow he managed to help the alt country article a lot by including a quote from the Rough Guide. I have found an allmusic essay on alt country and will use it when writing more in the article. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 03:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course the information I provided helped the article. That is because it is all true and wasn't "spam" as you incorrectly deemed it.
Please see my full response to your edit summary, below.Writeful (talk) 15:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Wittenberg

Updated DYK query On January 30, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mary Wittenberg, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 18:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


Please Stop

Hi, and please stop to nominate my articles for deletion. I understand why you nominated Rocky (song), Feeling Blue or Never Give Up Blues. But look at those articles like Devil's Daughter, You Can't Kill my Spirit, where I posted many informations, cause they are important songs. If you don't understand what I mean look at the Beach Boys songs.

Thanks, JTSomers... —Preceding unsigned comment added by JTSomers (talkcontribs) 21:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The community will decide at the AFD. Thank You. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Wild Oak Trail

Your are correct in putting the Wild Oak Trail in the Ridge-and-Valley province. As stated in the Great Appalachian Valley page, the Valley of Virginia, including the Shenandoah Valley, forms the eastern edge of said province. For future reference the Ridge-and-Valley in Virginia/West Virginia is bound by the Blue Ridge to the east and Allegheny/Cumberland plateau to the west. Arbogastlw (talk) 16:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Charles Davi

How is an author published by one of this country's oldest magazines not notable?

Also note that autobiographies are discouraged, not barred. My article meets all of the requirements for notability and contains nothing other than factual statements. Therefore you have no grounds to mark it for deletion.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdosfan (talkcontribs) 23:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your edits. They are reasonable and accurate. 67.110.139.163 (talk) 19:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Franklin

Good pull. I didn't even know about that until you messaged me. Had me worried for a minute as I searched for what that meant... Strikehold (talk) 18:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Darrius Heyward-Bey

That's strange. I just opened the link now on another computer, and the page loaded for me. Perhaps the site wasn't working earlier, or your antimalware programs are blocking the page from loading. Here's the link if you want to check again. BlueAg09 (Talk) 18:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Stephane Ngoumou

how does this article not qualify, it's a biography of a college receiver...why would this need to be deleted?!?!?! It's just like Knowshon Moreno, no one nominates that for deletion. It's the exact same thing. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?? Plz reply on my talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicagobearz (talkcontribs) 01:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Music of Missouri

I thank you for your interest in Music of Missouri. Your edit summary comments regarding my contributions as "promotional crap" are hardly professional nor cordial in tone. And I am surprised you have no issues with the content or organization of the rest of this article. You state that you cleaned up a mess, however, what you did is dismantle it so that it makes less sense, both grammatically as well as contextually. I have made amends. Please note that Uncle Tupelo is from southern Illinois, not Missouri.Writeful (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

If you don't see anything promotional/wrong with including "The Bottle Rockets continue to make original rock 'n' roll music today, with their 10th album slated for release in 2009." 1 in the second paragraph of the lead on an article on Missouri music in general (not alt-country, not rock n roll, Missouri MUSIC), then I really don't see the point in having a discussion with you. Also, even though UT may be from across the state line, they're associated with St. Louis. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Dismantle? Have you firgured out how to go through the history of the article? It's not difficult at all. Here are both of my edits cleaning up yours. 1 2
Yeah, I love to hear how it was dismantling it. Your argument on why your paragraph with the Bottle Rockets forthcoming album info should come before the jazz/blues/ragtime stuff in the lead should be interesting. Can't wait. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Brian Henneman

You are correct that this article could use sections. This will happen in time.

Ditto the annotated ref list. Work in progress. All links are still intact and accessible as of January 2009.

The link you incorrectly cited as a deadlink remains fully accessible. Simply scroll down the page for the article in its entirety.

The phrase you call ridiculous, "such good songs," appears nowhere in the article. You may be referring to "so many great songs," which is wording from the Factory Belt bio of Mr. Henneman. I have removed the subjective word "great" from the quote so as not to ruffle peacock feathers. The point is that numerous songs written early in his career are still mined today in his current releases.

"Considered to be the godfathers of the '90s alt-country/roots rock revival along with peers Uncle Tupelo,..." is a direct quote by Darryl Smyers of the Dallas Observer, and is clearly annotated as the source. Jason Ankeny of AllMusic is another source, stating, "Festus, MO's Bottle Rockets ranked as one of the leading lights of the 1990s roots rock revival,...."

Sources for where you inserted "citation needed" are: a combination of the AllMusic Guide http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:dxftxqe5ldte~T1 , No Depression magazine, Greg Kot's book, Mike Heidorn's liner notes in the 2003 reissue of the UT No Depression album, this No Depression article http://www.nodepression.com/articles.aspx?id=5100 , Country Music: The Rough Guide pp.550,557-8, and the liner notes on Henneman's original 45rpm single "Indianapolis", among other common available sources.

Thank you for eliminating the message board links from this article as unreliable sources. While it is true that a message board link does not meet Wiki standards, I thought the value of reading a direct first-hand account of recording Uncle Tupelo's March 16-02, 1992 and Wilco's AM from the guitarist (Henneman) who played the landmark tracks was valuable to fans of the music. My bad.Writeful (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It seems that if you cited better, this wouldn't have been a problem. I would suggesting checking out Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners. Perhaps you can focus on presenting your content as attributed, rather than coming across as wp:original research --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Alternative Country

The statement "Uncle Tupelo contemporaries the Bottle Rockets, who play with one foot in Ramones-style punk and the other in Motorhead-style metal"[1] continue touring fifteen years after sharing the stage with Uncle Tupelo for the last time in 1994" is not promo or spam, rather, it establishes a descriptive definition of an aspect of what is considered alt country sound. The paragraph is about fusion of influences comprising the alt country genre. My description does not promote, it describes what alt country sounds like and corroborates the Rough Guide block quote by giving examples. Additionally, since the sentence is in the History section and since the Bottle Rockets WERE and STILL ARE a vital innovative band (and were intrinsic to Uncle Tupelo historically) it is reasonable to mention that although Uncle Tupelo didn't survive, the Bottle Rockets continue to this day.

The inclusion of the Bottle Rockets is relevant and not meant to be promotional, rather it fit mirroring what was written about Ryan Adams, that he "continues to shape the genre today...." That said, I agree with your resolution of the Ryan A sentence. Perhaps stating, "the bands Whiskeytown, Bottle Rockets, Drive-By Truckers, and the Old 97's further developed this tradtion" and add that Drive-By Truckers and Bottle Rockets continue to do so in 2009" would be the comprehensive way of putting it.Writeful (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me, though if you're suggesting that a band is more important/notable just because they're still together..well that's funny. Again, if you are not inserting original research, AND you properly cite your content, this wouldn't be a problem. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Bottle Rockets

As noted above re the Brian Henneman article, I am aware that this article also needs sections, as well as annotating the references so as to avoid the potential for linkrot. So noted. Thank you for your interest in improvements to this article.Writeful (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

That's very kind of you, best. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Help with article

Can I delete the article I have made? After all the editing it looks horrible. Please remove it ASAP please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefcostello (talkcontribs) 14:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

We would like the article. Can you please delet the article? after all the editing you have made, the info is not correct and shall be removed.

Thank you for your email. But there are articles on wiki with the same links that you removed from mine. They also mention celebs, but you removed mine. Is the only possible way to make correction to this article, just possible by the person who made it? Is there not possible to add anything more to it?

Not sure if this is the right way or place to ask help about this. I was trying to help out with Ken Faught page for the intro. I see that there is a new message that was attached to the page from your profile. " promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information. " I believe it was something I did, right? I have made another edit. The message header that you placed was helpful. I followed the link, and it made sense. Does this now meet the guidelines? Is it kosher to remove the banner on top that shows the info box? Or is that something that is removed by the person that placed it there? Thanks in advance for you help...

Hello. Can you please let me know why you have removed and edited most of my article.? Best Christina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qchristina (talkcontribs) 00:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Editor review

We would like the article. Can you please delet the article? after all the editing you have made, the info is not correct and shall be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qchristina (talkcontribs) 13:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello, you currently have an Editor review request listed on the main page, although it has gained at least one review, it has been listed on the main page for over 30 days (the time limit), if you want additional time for your request to be open or if you want it to be closed, please acknowledge me of your decision to make proper procedures from there on. Thanks.--TRUCO 22:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay done. Sorry you couldn't get as much responses as you would have hoped, ER is currently in a "great depression" of reviewers. Feel free to nominate another review in the future if you like.--TRUCO 23:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate the message. It did kind of feel like a waste of time, but it's asking a lot of someone to critique the entire body of work of an editor. I've since found that nominating articles for wp:GA is a good way to get some feedback --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 23:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Invite

You're invited to be a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Appalachia, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to Appalachia and the Appalachian Mountains. To accept this invitation, click here!

Still under construction! Bms4880 (talk) 19:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Appalachian music

On Monday, March 9, 2009, I created the article Appalachian music after reading the WikiProject Appalachia page. Someone attempted to restore the redirect to Old-time music, telling me that there was very little information. I undid that edit. However, they were correct regarding the amount of information in the article. Thus, I have a proposal: if we can, we can work together to improve and expand the Appalachian music article. If you know anyone who can help out with the article, please let them know. If you are interested in assisting, have questions, want to talk, etc., feel free to put something on my talk page.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated. TTS51207 (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that was really nice of you! You know I really want to be a hardcore deletionist? I'm just very bad at it. Still, I kind of wish I hadn't gotten into it; it's a lot of aggravation for reasons I can't really fathom. But thanks for showing up at AfD and for that nice star! Drmies (talk) 16:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Mountains to sea mtmitchell sign.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, File:Mountains to sea mtmitchell sign.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — neuro(talk)(review) 17:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC) --— neuro(talk)(review) 17:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Re Mistaken vandal revert?

Yup, sorry. I reverted myself. Thanks for the heads up. KnightLago (talk) 01:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Friendly

How does friendly work then? Hiding T 12:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this should answer your question :) - wp:friendly --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 12:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
True. Ta. You've now made yourself my Friendly guru. :) Hiding T 12:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I've got two tag tabs. Is that supposed to happen? Hiding T 12:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I cleaned out my javascript, that may have sorted it. Hiding T 14:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Glad you figured it out. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes I'm a slow learner. Hiding T 13:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi thank you for tagging my article. I see a deletion log now though I dis agree. Should we speedy delete or use second debate to decide? I have not been in Academia very long but have heard this word very much. Thank you and much love for the new year! Linguistixuck (talk) 22:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the response-- very polite. Still, I'm not sure with what you are agreeing, me having asked a disjunct. Much love, etc. Linguistixuck (talk) 22:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Please leave me out of this!

Plase leave me out of this! I am not the one untagging your decision! SEen a request for this article so I wrote it preliminary and if it is not something you want then that is fine. But not after me please!!!!! Much love for the NEw Year! Linguistixuck (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

What? --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Resolved

Though I hold no grudge and am no longer concerned, I am happy that you have seen my article as good. Wow! My very own wikipedia page! I wish it to grow and some day be featured -- like my two wonderful children! This is very exciting! Much love for the new Year! Linguistixuck (talk) 22:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 00:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Good move, just removing the AfD, so as not to waste editors' time. --KP Botany (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Smile!

Bye

My girl friend Nora must have edited those. She is gone now and Girl Friend Lira is not as competement. Also the head trauma.

Bye.

Much love for the New Year one final time. Linguistixuck (talk) 19:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


TheGoodTourist

Hi! I am writing about the comments you sent to Ann-Britt Sternfeldt about her editing on TheGoodTourist article warning her about vanadalism. She is very new to the Wikipedia and is finding it difficult to understand what is happening about the article. She does not really have a firm grasp of Wikipedia protocols yet. She also is not confident about how to write or edit on the Wikipedia - especially in English which, although she is quite fluent in conversation, is sometimes difficult for her - especially when it comes to the more subtle points of Wikpipedia editorial policies. I think she took the reference to her book off the page because she felt it might look as if she personally was being promoted too much thereby distracting attention from TheGoodTourist publishing venture which, I believe, is of great interest because of its focus of encouraging tourists to make their visits really positive for the locals and the environment as well as for themselves.

Ms. Sternfeldt is, I believe, not only puzzled but feeling misunderstood. I am sure she did it all in good faith and certainly did not intend to vandalise the article. Please, if you have any suggestions on how to improve the article and make it more relevant for Wikipedia's readers, let me know, and I will do my best to tidy things up and check with Ms. Sternfeld where necessary. She is, at the moment, staying with a friend not far from our home, before she sets on on further travels - so I can discuss any issues with her and try to explain any queries you might have and also why you thought she was vandalising the article. I will write to her today about it all. Finally, if I can help in any other way please let me know. Best wishes John Hill (talk) 23:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, this edit [2] was reverted because it was adding extra spaces. Sorry, I should've left an edit summary. This edit [3] was reverted because it removed content with no explanation given, also those look more like external links than references. Again, I apologize for not stating my reasons in an edit summary
Speaking of edit summaries, this seems like quite a misleading one by the editor [4]. Wikipedia has a lot of vandals who get replace the content of the article with nonsense. It doesn't look like the editor did that there, but her edit summary indicates that. Apologies for the misunderstanding. My advice to the editor is to read the new welcome messages I left on her talk page. Thank you. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 23:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Omar. I just want to let you know I had nothing to do with this! Much love, blah. :P Linguistixuck (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi Omar

Hi Omar, i dont know how to do this cos im new but i need your help on the Jonathan Jenkins article. On the history, you can see the 'links to J*** W****' bit? Thats my name, and ireally want it taken off, some guy i know was trying to anny me by posting stupid vandalism on that page but i dont want my name up there. Could you please delete it or even delete the article entirely, i dont have the authority to do it. Thankyou

Doesn't the fact that countless blogs and forums criticizing the speech exist show that criticism is widespread? Can you help me properly document this please? James corn (talk) 21:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Blogs and forums are not reliable sources. See this link Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a photograph of Richland Balsam? Bms4880 (talk) 23:04, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. Nice work on the article. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 00:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Dillard Chandler

Updated DYK query On April 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dillard Chandler, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 02:52, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tully (film)

Updated DYK query On April 24, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tully (film), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 01:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Spirit of the Marathon

Updated DYK query On April 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Spirit of the Marathon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 06:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, this was not vandalism. Thank you.--Jwilkinsen Jr (talk) 20:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Linguistixuck

Hi, I just want to point out that I've been behaving myself these past few months. Much love for the new year :P Linguistixuck (talk) 05:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


WikiProject Athletics

Hi there! I've seen your work on Mary Wittenberg so I thought you'd be interested in WikiProject Athletics. This should help give articles such as this one, and other event organisers, better coverage and input. I hope to see you soon! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 11:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Not too late for this one :)--Pharos (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Missed it somehow --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 18:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Location change (and reservations made) for DC meetup

We originally considered TGI Friday's in Foggy Bottom as the meetup location, however I stopped by TGI Friday's this evening to make reservations. I was less than impressed. They apparently don't take reservations, except perhaps if you call 24 hours ahead of time. The staff was not so helpful, and the menu has hardly anything vegetarian which is an issue for some people.

So, I checked out the Bertucci's pizza/Italian place across the street (21st & I St NW). Their staff couldn't have been more helpful, think it will be fairly quiet so we will be able to hear each other, and is a very suitable place for us. So, reservations are made for Bertucci's at 5pm on Saturday. I hope you can make it to the meetup. --Aude (talk) 02:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

D.C. Meetup, Saturday, June 6, 2009

The 7th DC Meetup dinner will be held this Saturday, June 6th, starting at 5 p.m. The event will be at Bertucci's, near George Washington University and the Foggy Bottom metro station. It will follow the Apps for Democracy open source event at GWU. For details or to RSVP if you haven't already, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 7. (You have received this announcement because your user page indicates that you live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC.)
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The Wire - darkmatter edit query

Hello, I noticed you removed a recent edit, which included links to the darkmatter Journal on the grounds it is not a reliable source. Is this in relation to the term 'academic' being used? The journal has an ISSN and is edited by senior academics in universities in the UK, and articles referenced have undergone an academic review process. However, if the issue is to do with the Journal's credentials in terms of appearing in academic citation indexes, then the term 'academic' could be removed, and the rest of the edit retained in the critical responses and external links section, as these list general sources. Thanks, Nomadic11 (talk) 15:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Well if you read wp:reliable sources and present objective evidence to prove that it is indeed a reliable source, I will be glad to revert my edits. One way you may do this is by paying particular attention to the scholarship section:
The scholarly acceptance of a source can be verified by confirming that the source has entered mainstream academic discourse, for example by checking the number of scholarly citations it has received in citation indexes. A corollary is that journals not included in such indexes should be used with caution.
Hope this helps. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I do now understand the criteria of a reliable source with reference to an academic source. I'm now querying that the darkmatter journal can be included merely as a general source, equivalent to other sources being referenced to in the critical responses and external sources. These other sources linked to, are considered legitimate and aren't academic sources. Therefore, if the edit was rewritten as "An online collection of articles on the racial politics of The Wire has been published by darkmatter Journal". Basically, any reference to the term/word 'academic' is removed. Thanks, --Nomadic11 (talk) 15:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Again, if you can prove that is a wp:reliable source, I will revert my edits. Saying "general source" or "equivalent" doesn't say much. The other sources used in the article obviously meet criteria for a reliable source. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, as I indicated, the journal is edited by established academics in senior posts in UK universities. They are them selves published in scholarly journals and regularly peer review for other academic journals. For your information, not all academic online journals appear in citation indexes, as this depends on impact factors. darkmatter has published many articles written by established academics concerning the politics of race. The contents of the The Wire special issue has undergone a review process. And many of the contributors are academics themselves. However, the reference to darkmatter now to be written as "An online collection of articles on the racial politics of The Wire has been published by darkmatter Journal" is not attempting to claim or indicate academic authority; it is merely indicating a collection of recently published articles. In this case now, it's not clear why darkmatter journal is not considered as reliable as other sources cited in on the wire page. For example, examining the external links, some of these are online magazines or blogs. How is darkmatter any less reliable than these sources? And to reiterate, there is no claim being made to academic authority in the proposed new edit. Therefore a similar criteria of reliability can now be applied to darkmatter in comparison to these other sources. thanks, --Nomadic11 (talk) 16:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
As for the external links, yes some of them are blogs, but they contain interviews. See #3 of WP:ELYES. That said, given your explanation of Darkmatter and a quick look at the content, I would have no problem with it being included as an external link. I would suggest giving a more informative (but brief) explanation of the journal and what Wire content it contains than you did the first time around. Note that I'm only one user, and as with any wikipedia article (especially since this article obtained wp:feature article status), there may be other editors who have their own opinion about the link.
However, as far as using Darkmatter as a reference, I'm not convinced it meets any criteria for a wp:reliable source, so do not agree with using in the body of the article as a reference. Thank you
--Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


WP:Run and WP:Athletics

Feel free to continue adding both projects to pages. I had hoped that starting up a new, broader project would bring together more editors. The run project has been verging on inactive for quite some time now and seems to consist of little more than a talk page. That's why I hoped to bring the project together with WPAthletics. The fact that only you have responded to my suggestion on the run page is indicative of the inactivity. The prominence of sock puppeteer racepacket surely isn't helping either.

Middle- and long-distance running are certainly included in the Athletics project. I personally hope that the One mile article can be improved in future as it represents the rise of modern athletics quite well: runners chasing the 4-minute-mile for so long, and runners surpassing that mark within days of each other is quite a story. Incorporation of parts of Mile run world record progression and Four-minute mile into a main topic seems like a start.

I had trouble finding non-subscription things for Spirit of the Marathon, but I found this review, and maybe you get get a little bit of info from these two sources. That's pretty much all I could find. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 19:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.. Those look like good sources for Spirit of the Marathon. Also, speaking of the mile, I did read The Perfect Mile a few months back, and hope to expand the stub I created. I've a lot of "to-do" things here, but have been busy lately. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

The Wire - darkmatter edit query - continued

You last wrote:

As for the external links, yes some of them are blogs, but they contain interviews. See #3 of WP:ELYES. That said, given your explanation of Darkmatter and a quick look at the content, I would have no problem with it being included as an external link. I would suggest giving a more informative (but brief) explanation of the journal and what Wire content it contains than you did the first time around. Note that I'm only one user, and as with any wikipedia article (especially since this article obtained wp:feature article status), there may be other editors who have their own opinion about the link.
However, as far as using Darkmatter as a reference, I'm not convinced it meets any criteria for a wp:reliable source, so do not agree with using in the body of the article as a reference. Thank you
--Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


Regarding darkmatter not meeting the reliability criteria as a reference in the critical responses section, it is disappointing to find you still don't consider it as acceptable. It appears you are judging the journal on the basis of:

The scholarly acceptance of a source can be verified by confirming that the source has entered mainstream academic discourse, for example by checking the number of scholarly citations it has received in citation indexes. A corollary is that journals not included in such indexes should be used with caution.

In relation to the critical responses section, all the existing references cited are from mainstream (predictable) media outlets, and the majority lack any academically informed analysis of the politics of race in The Wire. darkmatter Journal is the first to do so, and as indicated previously, it clearly has legitimate academic credentials. Many of the the authors contributing to the special issue operate in universities. For example, two of the authors are publishing an academic edited book on The Wire. If you were to inquire amongst the academic community what online academic source they would turn to if they wanted a critically informed account of the racial politics of The Wire, they would now cite darkmatter. While the journal curruently does not appear in established citation indexes, this does not exclude it from academic legitimacy or relevancy.

The economy of academic citation and impact factors is a contested, politicized terrain within academia itself. Moreover, the work on race remains a relatively marginalized field of study within academia. There are few academic race/ethnicity journals with credible citation and impact factors relative to other mainstream social sciences journals. Moreover, many well cited journal's are closed/subscriber only journals (against the principal of open access).

The criteria of reliability you are claiming does not consider the politics of citation, and nor considers the context of how some fields of study - such as race - remain marginalized. Nor does it say journals not significantly cited should be simply excluded - it's a judgment call.

There's a huge irony operating here too. Amongst the academic community, wikipedia is not considered to be a reliable source because it does not undergo an academic review process. Yet, journal's such as darkmatter are keen to establish open access to knowledge and examine the grounds on which knowledge is legitimised. By not including darkmatter as a legitimate reference in this instance reinforces a hierarchy of knowledge. And wasn't wikipedia developed as an alternative to such hierarchies?

Readers and students coming across The Wire wikipedia article, and not finding a substantial reference to a race analysis cited in the critical responses section undermines the quality of the current entry for The Wire. While a narrow interpretation of academic reliability can be readily applied, what also needs to be considered is the politics of knowledge, and how some knowledge remains marginalized, within academia and online. Regards, --Nomadic11 (talk) 10:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I thought the discussion was finished so I archived. Anyhow, Ok, I'll accept it as a reliable source. I would caution you to be careful in your edits of the article. Your contributions should appear to be improving the article—not promoting a journal. Thank You. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 11:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD notice

Hello Omarcheesboro. An article that you have been involved in editing, Brett Frana, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brett Frana. Thank you. EdJohnston (talk) 16:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. In fact, I have the book sitting on my desk as we speak. I was amazed that you added the picture of David Shelton to the page soo quickly after I created it. It was almost like I was in the Twilight Zone! I do plan to expand the article with more detail.

I used to spend a lot of time backpacking in that area back in the 70s and 80s but I was not aware of the Shelton Laurel Massacre site. I actually got interested in it when my brother--David Shelton--was asked if he was related to the NC Sheltons when he was in NC on a business trip. I guess we are some whicha way, but I have no direct evidence. Keep watching the page for additions.

Hope I did this correctly--I'm new to this sorta stuff!.[[Pinethicket (talk) 12:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)]]

Shelton graves

The Shelton Laurel Massacre occurred near the middle of the Shelton Laurel Valley, about 10 miles south of the Shelton graves on the A.T. (although you can see the upper Shelton Laurel from that stretch of the trail between the graves and Devil Fork). The Sheltons that are buried on the A.T. were returning Union veterans killed in an ambush at that site in 1864 (see here). All 13 slain in the massacre are buried in a cemetery near White Rock.

I'm glad you uploaded this image, however, since I'm going to expand the Bald Mountains article in the coming weeks, and I haven't had time to get a picture of these graves myself. Bms4880 (talk) 19:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. Your note actually clears some confusion I've had when reading about the incident. Just to be sure—There were two massacres involving Sheltons in a 10 mile area? What a coincidence, but I guess it was a pretty common name. Was the boy David Shelton involved in the Shelton Laurel Massacre (the non-AT one)? Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Correct. "Shelton" is like "Smith" in Madison County, which causes confusion. Most of the guys killed in the Shelton Laurel Massacre were Sheltons. Two of the three killed in the ambush above Devil Fork Gap were Sheltons. The 13-year old killed in the massacre was named David Shelton, and one of the veterans killed above Devil Fork Gap was named David Shelton. One of the two initial settlers in the valley in the 1790s was named David Shelton, and the name was probably passed down. Some Sheltons probably even fought for the 64th NC, since the regiment did recruiting in Shelton Laurel, but I don't know if any were present at the time of the massacre. Bms4880 (talk) 20:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Devils Gap

That is interesting. I can see why my brother was quizzed about his name when he was in western NC. Seems like the ambush at Devils Gap would be a good Wikipedia page.

Here is a interesting web site if you don't have it: http://trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=73714

[[Pinethicket (talk) 11:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)]]

Dane Rauschenberg

Thank you for your many contributions to running coverage on Wikipedia. I thought that you should know that I posted the following reply on the talk page to your statement that WP:N trumps WP:ATH:

It is not clear that Notability comes before wp:athlete. For example, a lot of professors get local media coverage and web coverage. However, if a professor can't meet WP:PROF, it will be deleted, unless the person is know for some other, non-professorial reason. The same should apply for wp:athlete. Otherwise, every middle of the pack runner can submit a paragraph to a "tell your story" blog on a marathon website and then claim to meet WP:N for his own self-written Wikipedia article. At a time when another person had already run marathons on 159 consecutive weekends and two other people were running 50 marathons on 50 consecutive days, the fiddy2 project was not that remarkable. Fiddy2 did not gain "hard news" coverage, but rather coverage that was tongue in cheek or was ancillary to the coverage of the particular marathon. 66.173.140.100 (talk) 19:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Read the first two paragraphs here. Wikipedia:Athlete#Additional_criteria. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 10:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree. However, "it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute sufficient evidence of notability - particularly for individuals known for one event (WP:BLP1E). For example, routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for a topic to have its own standalone article." So either a person is notable for being an athlete, or he is notable for something else, a pop culture icon, a sportscaster, etc. If someone is mentioned in an local newspaper article about a sporting event ("Jones finished 2nd in the local 5k on Sunday") that is not enough without also meeting WP:ATH. 66.173.140.100 (talk) 21:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Are you this guy who rags on Horton? See 8 and 9 [5] --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
No. I know a number of VHTRC members, but not Horton. 66.173.140.100 (talk) 22:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Spirit of the Marathon

For the cast and crew section, a simple list doesn't work too well. It's best to discuss how the cast/crew were selected, their thoughts on filming, what they had to do to prepare for the roles, etc. The critical reception section should come after the production section. I would also recommend expanding the awards section. There should be some explanation to the awards/nominations instead of just a table. Also, since some of the sections are brief, try and include another section if possible, or expand on the current ones. I invite you to look at some of our project's best articles to see how you can improve the quality of the article further. Consider using the resources department to find additional sources to help you expand the article. Let me know if you need help with any of this, and good job on the article so far. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 19:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Again, thank for your advice. I appreciate you taking the time to provide suggestions, and for your positive feedback.
Note that I added some more sourced content, and specifically in response to one of your suggestions, a bit about why subjects were chosen (I don't think "cast" is a correct term for subjects of a documentary.. not sure though). I am unable to find sourced content for your other suggestions. Thanks again. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 23:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Factual editing

Wikipedia is a fact-based repository of information. Please keep that in mind when posting or editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TestudoTT (talkcontribs) 06:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Would you to care to show me where I have not respected the facts?
If you're concerned about Wikipedia, perhaps you should read Single Purpose Account users and wp:npov. Your TestudoTT account is on here for one reason only, and that is to disparage University of Maryland's athletic program and fans. Anyone clicking on your user contributions over a 2 year span can see that. I welcome you to go through my user contributions and come up with examples that challenge my adherance to wp:npov, or "facts". --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 09:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello again

Hey fella. I just want to let you know that I am still behaving myself, doing a lot of good work over at Tim Buckley cooperating with Sillyfolkboy who used to revert me all the time. I am hoping to soon give a new definition to irony by earining (legitimately!) a barnstar. Anyways, much luv for the New Year. Linguistixuck (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I assure that's just a cooincidence. It's too bad you don't like the Buckley boys-- they are acquired tastes. There's a so-so studio version of Wayfarin Stranger by TB, but a live on on an album called Dream Letter is terrific. Linguistixuck (talk) 17:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

That's quite a big coincidence. Yeah I just never got into Jeff Buckley. thanks for the tip about the live album--Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the photographer's barnstar, Omar. ;-) SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 02:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Purely Obsessional OCD sources added take a look P.S. I am neither Collosus54 or Anonpureo.--87.202.88.181 (talk) 22:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


Brad Mays article

Omarcheeseboro - Not sure if this is how to contact you. I've done quite a bit of work on the article and was hoping for comments/guidance.

Could you respond on that page's discussion section, for easy reference?

Thanks in advance.

Rudybowwow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudybowwow (talkcontribs) 02:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Omarcheesboro - Thanks a million for your help. I think I'm finally getting the hang of this. I hate to be a pest, but if you could help me out with this, I think the article may be just about there.

Thanks again.

Rudybowwow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudybowwow (talkcontribs) 00:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Omarchesseboro - I am about to move on to my first large article and your help is entirely responsible for encouraging me to do so. The article's subject will be Corner Theatre E.T.C., of Baltimore. There is one final question I have for you, if I may intrude on you one final time. I am in the process of trying to upload images and have, of course been flagged for copyright issues. The photos I have tried to post and others I will want to be posting for the next article are all publicity shot/artwork. I have been to the page cited for these issues, but find it difficult to extrapolate a workflow for actual application. Can you advise? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudybowwow (talkcontribs) 17:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks yet again - Rudybowwow

Category:Women's Professional Soccer players by team

Since you've deleted categories before, please delete "Players of XXX" categories as I am in the process of changing them all over to the more commonly used "XXX players" format. Thanks. GauchoDude (talk) 03:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I am not an admin, so have not deleted categories before. I believe I nominated one for deletion. You can do that too. See wp:cfd --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 11:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


Volunteer opportunity in Bethesda, Thursday, July 16

The Wikimedia Foundation will be conducting an all-day Academy at the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Maryland, on Thursday, July 16. The team that will be teaching at the Academy, a mix of paid staff and volunteers, is looking for four more volunteers to be teaching assistants, providing one-to-one assistance in workshops whenever a workshop participant has a problem following the instructional directions. (We currently have two editors signed up as teaching assistants, and are looking for a total of six.)

The NIH editing workshops are only for two hours, but volunteers are asked to meet the Wikimedia Foundation team at the hotel in Bethesda at about 7:15 a.m. (time to be finalized shortly) and to stay for the entire day, which ends at 4:30 p.m. Lunch will be provided. (The full schedule can be found here.)

The team is not necessarily looking for expert editors (though they are welcome), just people who can help novices who might get stuck when trying to do some basic things. If you've been an editor for at least 3 months, and have done at least 500 edits, you probably qualify.

If you're interested, please send John Broughton an email. If you might be interested, but would like further information, please post a note on his user talk page, so that he can respond there, and others can see what was asked.

(You have received this posting because your user page indicates that you live in Maryland or DC. --EdwardsBot (talk) 03:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC))

Revere

Quite welcome :-) Nyttend (talk) 01:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Chris Turner picture

Great find! And good timing for it too, as I just nominated the article for GA review. Strikehold (talk) 00:51, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I asked the owner on Flickr to change the copyright so we can use it here, and fortunately, he did. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 09:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Advice

Thank you very much for your kind Advice, Omar, I enjoy editing on Wikipedia but am, unfortunately not a naturally gifted programmer and some of my edits can be long and laborius to complete. Could you recommend and tools, bots or templates that I could use to make things easier for myself ?

It'ss generally sports pages I like to browse so maybe that narrows the spectrum a little, anyway I await your response on my talk page. Mccarry85 (talk) 21:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Morganton, NC

Dear Cheese man,

I understand you're trying to sweep the ugliness of Morganton under the (presumably enormous) rug, but can you at least leave my NPOV flag up? If you have some problem with my source that's fine, but I'm a little unclear as to the problem with using a fairly self-explanatory photo--along with the information on the page it came from--as a source. I'll find a news article or something to go along with it. In the meantime, please call off the banhammer-waving dogs.

Gene Ray Wisest Human (talk) 15:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it okay with you if I put in my story about how I stopped at the Morganton Ingles for gas and coffee and everyone seemed real friendly? It's not too far from the mountains either, I could move there I think. Seems like their Mayor is a fellow Jew as well. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd say that's at least as notable as the Recreation section that does nothing but list stuff that's NEAR Morganton. Throw it up there! Seriously though, I'd like my NPOV flag. Gene Ray Wisest Human (talk) 16:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

NPOV tag added. Gene, can you please add a clear section to the talk page of the article as to why you dispute this? I know there's some stuff already there, but if we have the tag up, we need a focused area for discussion. Tan | 39 16:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Obviously you know nothing about Texas Country music. The Driftin' Outlaw Band has been playing in and around Texas for over ten years, the bio put in Wikipedia is a true history of the band, it may seem ridiculous, but that is because you have never met or seen the members that make up the band. You can cross reference the members names with the Texas prison systems, for proof of their time in prison. Along with the maternity suits placed against David Allan Coe. The reason you may find no reference to the band is because up until the last few months the band has been completely against all technology, generally playing where ever and whenever they can with a work ethic of only word to mouth. Trying to shadow many of their main influences such as Hank Williams and Robert Johnson who traveled around town to town playing their music. All releases have also been self released in only limited quantity, because of major record labels refusal to accept their ways of promotion and touring. As far as furnishing the references to the articles, you must realize that not all people put personal information on to the internet and because you cannot find information that is widley known in this area, does not rebut it's truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaredtxhc2 (talkcontribs) 15:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Please read wp:verify. You should also take a look at wp:afd as well. Thank You. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

John E S Lawrence

Im not sure if you are the one editing my efforts on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.E.S.Lawrence, but please know that I am trying hard, and in good faith, to comply with WIKI COI guidelines by usefully linking WIKI pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Peaks) while providing minimal information with independently verifiable sources... and will welcome any explicit guidance you can give me... thanks Jeslw (talk) 16:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello.. I just did some quick format clean to your page. If you don't understand, check out wp:linking. You may want to also understand how you can view a page's history by viewing this link - Help:Page_history. Thanks. By the way, I was just hiking in Western NC near Table Rock, and saw a bunch of outward bound kids. There's a camp right there. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

many thanks... I'm working through the WIKI protocol maze, and greatly appreciate your time and help...good to hear you were enjoying Table Rock and Linville Gorge...a bit of my heart is stuck in those rocks! but it must be bugsy right about now...the OB school we built over 40 years ago with only hand tools (no electricity) still stands up there... you should pay them a visit, they would welcome you... Jeslw (talk) 22:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, just let me know if you need help with anything specific with Wikipedia.
So you helped build the Outward Bound school that's on the road up to Table Rock? I passed it on the way. It's a lovely area..wish I could visit soon, but I live near Washington DC and only get to get to go to North Carolina for vacation.

Harry Rose is a notable chemist and musician, please refrain from removing him from the cherry hill page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.161.190 (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

HotCat

When using HotCat to move people into more specific "People from" categories, you can hit the plus sign next to the "People from Maryland" one and then change the test in the box to the more specific county or city one and then hit OK. This then removes the old and adds the new one in a single edit, which is faster and less work on the servers. Happy editing. Aboutmovies (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, good point, never really thought of that for some reason. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

re: Harold Stephens (author)

Hello Omarcheeseboro,

Thank you for your comments on my recently posted page on Harold Stephens. As you can probably tell from the page, I am a new contributor and am learning about Wikipedia. If you could give me a few constructive ideas to work on to improve the page, it would be much appreciated. Harold Stephens, author, is a very interesting subject and I would love for this page to work well.

If you could please reply to my talk page, that would be helpful as well.

Thanks for your interest and I look forward to your comments.

Sincerely,

BKKJim

(----) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BKKJim (talkcontribs) 13:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


Hello,

Thanks for your note and for your helpful suggestions. I will get to work on them at my first opportunity. As far as the redirect goes, I didn't really know how to get the page "live", so to speak and thought the redirect from my "user" page was the way to do it. I will try to correct that as well.

Thanks again for your help and your interest!

Bye for now,

BKKJim (----) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BKKJim (talkcontribs) 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

I edited the Stephens page and made a lot of cuts, in line with the first "flag" on the page. It's now much less "cluttered". I am currently working on the references and hope to have that cleared up soon as well. And thanks for the tip on the signature - will do it this way from now on...

Thanks again for your assistance.

BKKJim

--BKKJim (talk) 07:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello again,

I think I'm on track with the citations and references. Thanks again for nudging me in the right direction!

Bye for now,

--BKKJim (talk) 10:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for your helpful comments and also for the formatting tips. Your help is much appreciated!

--BKKJim (talk) 06:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Planning Discussions Now Ongoing Regarding DC Meetup #8

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List of fatal bear attacks in North America

Hmmn. The word black does not appear in reference one. Bruin DOES appear in reference two. I wonder where you got black from.

Scooter2536 (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

http://wildlife.state.co.us/WildlifeSpecies/Profiles/Mammals/BlackBear.htm

So here we read that it can be any color. So in these press accounts we have inconsistent information from local press. We don't really know the color. So pick whatever you'd like. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooter2536 (talkcontribs) 02:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Changes to Jeff Hanson Page

I made appropriate and accurate changes to the Jeff Hanson page, however even as his sister of 31 years I was referred to as an unreliable source. I assure you I am a far more reliable source than the Minneapolis Star Tribune or the Poineer Press who have chosen to carefully construct their own versions of how his death occurred and whether or not it was intentional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.28.6 (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Harold Stephens page

Hello Omarcheeseboro,

I just want to drop you a quick line and ask you to have a look at the Harold Stephens page. I've posted multiple references and am trying to get rid of the last two flags on the page. Thanks for your help and have a great day.

--BKKJim (talk) 08:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

jimmy valentine

Jimmy Valentine is notable and influencial in sub culture if for no other reason than he worked with Sky Saxon and is the only artist Sky ever produced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.44.155 (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Cross-country Images

Please can you explain how the captions you prefer add substantially to the article and do not just adrevtise places within the United States and give an impression that only the USA host any form of cross Countyr events.--10:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

As I said before in an edit summary, if you have an issue with the images not representing a worldwide view, a quick search at wikicommons [6] seems to offer some very good options.
Identifying the location/meet name in an image's caption is appropriate. Again, if you have a problem with the type of images being used, there is nothing stopping you from replacing some of them...instead of removing valuable information. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 11:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you please address how it is valuable information?--Lucy-marie (talk) 11:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
The location of where an image was taken is valuable information. See Wikipedia:Caption#Tips_for_describing_pictures. "Where was it taken?" --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Just because a guideline says so doesn't mean it must be followed if a resaonable rational as to why the captions should be how they currenlty are I will maybe start to understand why the current version is needed.--Lucy-marie (talk) 19:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Please read Wikipedia:Accessibility#Images for more information on how images should be captioned.--Lucy-marie (talk) 19:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
As one would expect, the page I gave for caption guidelines has a lot more information than the broad one line note (which doesn't address the issue here) on the image guideline page.
I have nothing more to add to this discussion, if you want to take it to the talk page or wp:3o, be my guest. Thank you --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I am simply asking for why you think the current captions are nedded and why they add to the captions.--Lucy-marie (talk) 20:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I figured this was obvious, but when looking at image in an article on a general subject, it is nice to know where the image is taken. Comparable articles/images/captions can be found at marathon, half marathon, Long jump, 100 m. Note how the image captions give a location --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Notability& resources for Billy Jack Purnell "Plain & Simple"

Good morning, I understand the pylling of my edit under "music from missouri in the 2000's" I should have posted some links. I will re post the info with links that verify the post & notability. If this is still not the correct recourses, then can you explain what I need to be able to keep the post up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synacl1000 (talkcontribs) 12:34, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Military of France

Hi,

I'm sorry to have written this article in American English. Actually, I'm a French-American, so for me it's just almost instinctive. Anyway, I thought American English was better understood throughout the world and I also thought that Wikipedia was an international encyclopedia which must be read and understood by all. Maybe I was wrong.

Best regards.

NYSTEX

Hello, did you read the message on your talk page? That explains it. Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm a computer illiterate, but would like my name added to GLBT Athletes list.

I need a little help Omarcheeseboro,

If you google: Kimber Fritz, you will see my acting debut(in the movie "Traffic"), but you will also see some of my athletic accomplishments. I competed live(for the "Kentucky Bourbons" under the name Jerry Fritz) on ESPN's first ever televised sporting event: September 7, 1979 the "World Series of Professional Softball"(google: ESPN Early Founder, for more). I also played for the "Colorado Silver Bullets"(briefly)in 1994 under the name Lisa Fritz-(google: Women's Minor League Baseball Team Gets Major Response-L.A. Times article by Jean Marbella). I also fought in the first ever "World Tough Woman" contest, live on pay-per-view(Cobo Arena, Detroit) in October 1996, put on by Art Door.

I'd like to have my name added to the GLBT athlete's list, but like the stereotypical "dumb jock" that I am, I'm having one hell of a time trying to accomplish it. Fishook7 (talk) 07:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Fishook7 - jerry lisa kimber fritz

D.C. Meetup, Saturday, September 26

The 8th DC Meetup dinner will be held this Saturday, September 26, starting at 6 p.m. The event will be at Burma Restaurant (740 6th St, NW near the Gallery Place-Chinatown Metro station). For details or to RSVP if you haven't already, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 8. (You have received this announcement because your user page indicates that you live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC.) --EdwardsBot (talk) 07:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

your photo is not photo of bridge vittorio emmanuele. This is bridge of saint angel

RfC: Is it appropriate to use the term "American record" when referring to a national record set by a United States citizen?

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Athletics. Thank you. Location (talk) 18:44, 28 September 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

your photo is no photo vittorio emmanuelle bridge, but bridge of angel.

Hi:

Yes, I read the conflict of interest and now realize that I can't be placing my name. I apologize for this. However, I have lived in the town of Woodstock Vermont. I am only reachable at the mailing address of South Pomfret, but physically I live in Barnard, Vermont. It's a bit confusing. However, if somebody else puts me as a notable resident of Woodstock, Vermont that is not incorrect as I did live there, just as many of the people on the list lived there for a finite period of time. I will make sure that the entry under my name is changed to say that I live in Barnard, because I physically live there and then my name will be appropriately added to the list of notable people, Sinclair Lewis among them.

In terms of deserving to be among the notables, I am perhaps one of the few very novelists in the state of Vermont who has international standing in terms of my work being discussing in many different foreign as well as domestic venues, newspapers, literary conferences and is widely translated.

JOlshan1---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by JOlshan1 (talkcontribs) 17:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

So, now that all is clarified, can my name be added to notable residents in those two town, or should it only be added to one? Obviously, if given a choice I'd rather be listed in Barnard, Vermont which was the home of a Nobel Prize winner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JOlshan1 (talkcontribs) 18:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks. Have a pleasant evening —Preceding unsigned comment added by JOlshan1 (talkcontribs) 18:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Virginia Foxx's wiki page is clearly edited by one of her staffers. Her bill was "heralded by members of the military and veterans alike" with no cite? Way to keep your eye on the ball. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.195.67 (talk) 01:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

sup homeskillet

wooow kid your in Virginia y wuld u care about something about sauk rapids. its in a different state and its a tiny town.