User talk:Carlos Ricarte

Parliamentary results

Hello Carlos. Please could you provide a source for the Uruguayan parliamentary election results. Thanks, Number 57 21:44, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2019 Uruguayan general election

On 1 December 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2019 Uruguayan general election, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Carlos Ricarte

Thank you for creating 2018 Carinthian state election.

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This article states both 2013 and 2018 in multiple places - needs to be corrected.

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Jmertel23 (talk) 22:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jmertel23: In that article, I mixed up some details from two elections in the austrian state I recently edited, I just corrected that.

Carlos Ricarte (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

@Carlos Ricarte: Thanks! I figured you probably used a 2013 article as a template and simply hadn't replaced all the dates, but I was hesitant to make the corrections myself in case it was actually supposed to be 2013. Thank you for making the correction! Jmertel23 (talk) 12:58, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Chamber of Deputies

Can you explain the difference between Government/Opposition and Majority/Minority in the Brazilian Chamber of Deputies? The article has a short section on this, but it doesn't make much sense, and I haven't found a suitable explanation online anywhere, either. Do these categories overlap, or is it all on the same level? Criticalthinker (talk) 00:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Originally, there was only two position in Brazilian Chamber of Deputies, the Government Leader and the Minority Leader. The Government Leader was choosen directly by the President of Brazil and the minority leader was choosen by the largest party/bloc that opposed the incumbent government. This changed during the Bolsonaro Government, where the parties argued that it didn't represent well how the brazilian party system works and they created separated leader for the Majority and the Opposition.

Due to that reform, there is two parallel systems which represent respectively the internal duality of the Chamber of Deputies and the Government vs Opposition division. The largest party/bloc appoints the Majority Leader and the second largest party/bloc apppoints the Minority Leader. Aditionally, the President still chooses the Government Leader and the largest party/bloc that opposes the Government appoints the Opposition Leader.

Now, the official party division is composed of a Bloc alligned with Arthur Lira, a Bloc directly opposed to him, Brazil of Hope, Liberal Party and three other unnaligned minor parties. The Lira Bloc nominated the Majority Leader and the President nominated the Government leader, the anti Lira Bloc declined to nominate the Minority Leader so the Liberal Party choose both the Opposition and Minority Leader.

Carlos Ricarte (talk) 03:41, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, this explains it better. It appaers the "partisan blocs composition" subsection of the Chamber of Deputies article is a bit of a mess, including the explanations. The way they divide them is that apparently, the "Government leader" and "Opposition leader" present parties, and the "Majority leader" and "Minority leader" represents blocs, which I guess is why two different individuals are listed? Also, why is there no number listed for "Majority" in that subsection? Is it simply because it's not fully formed, yet?

If that definition of the leaders is incorrect, someone needs to change it. Unfortunately, I can't find any sources that would explain this. It's just that everything is so unclear in the both the English and Portuguese language articles on this. Criticalthinker (talk) 06:42, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I still do not understand how I'm supposed to read this, and particularly how it relates to the composition currently listed on the wikipedia article and infobox: https://www.camara.leg.br/deputados/bancada-atual

And the bottom of the page it lists "Líderes do Governo, da Minoria e de Partidos que participam de Bloco Parlamentar" but shows the major groupings listed as having "0" seats. How can we read this and translate it so that it matches the wiki article? Criticalthinker (talk) 07:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for taking long to answer, the system is confusing but basically there isnt an objective definition of which parties are "government" and which are "opposition" with many parties being purposely ambiguous (just see União Brasil relationship with Lula), that's why I tried to change to the official bloc definition, which is the official division.

That graph you are refering to is mostly about the party leaders that are part of the official bloc with their respective party number of seats, the other leaders dont have an officially assigned number of MPs, being elected by their respective groups (or appointed by the president in the case of Government Leader). Here is a link that can help you understand the prerrogatives of the Chamber leaders.

https://www.camara.leg.br/noticias/933856-entenda-o-papel-dos-lideres-partidarios-na-camara-dos-deputados/?preview=true

Carlos Ricarte (talk) 17:49, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Right, but what I'm interested in is how the wikipedia article needs to be structured. Because I'm not sure the infobox composition is matching up with the "Partisan blocs composition" subsection in the article. The infobox seems to be showing "government" and "opposition" composition, and the "partisan bloc composition" adds in majority/minority, but it's currently not listing a number for the majority. It's too confusing. Criticalthinker (talk) 23:06, 14 June 2023 (UTC)