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Simple WikEd question[edit]

I am afraid I simply don't understand the instructions for installing WikEd: "Simply add one of the following code snippets to your User:YourUsername/monobook.js (or whatever skin used) page." What exactly is monobook.js, & where can I find it? I realize that it's some JavaScript code, but that's all I know about it. FYI I'm using Mozilla 1.3 under Windows. Many thanks for any help you can provide to this Wiki-newbie! Nigel

Hi Nigel, please check the new step-by-step installation instructions (User:Cacycle/wikEd#Installation).

Thanks: worked like a charm. How silly of me to miss that the first time! Well, I suppose nothing is idiot-proof ...

BTW, you can (and should) sign your messages simply by adding ~~~~. Good luck, Cacycle 13:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that, but just forgot -- again! Ndsg 15:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Correction! It isn't working yet. I've now copied the required lines into my monobook.js, but nothing has happened, even after restarting my machine. No wikEd logo, no buttons when I edit (just a few default buttons, but not the full range of wikEd ones).
The instructions are definitely in my monobook.js. Any suggestions? Ndsg 16:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Refresh the browser cache, enable JavaScript, check which skin you use, check the JavaScript Console under Tools for error messages. Your monobook.js is correct and should work. Cacycle 18:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your patient explanation. I've done all that, & I get the following error message in the JS console:

Error: missing ( after for
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 1590, Column: 5
Source Code:
for each (buttonNo in bar[2]) {

Anything I can do about that? Ndsg 12:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Does it work now after pressing Shift-Reload to update. Cacycle 20:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. I still get the same "missing ( after for" message. Am I using an old version? Ndsg 11:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problem is simply that my version of Mozilla (1.3) (& Firefox too) don't recognize "for each" -- which I think is usually found in languages such as VBA.
If I'm right about this, there must be other potential users of WikEd who can't get it to work. Could you possibly rewrite that particular loop? Ndsg 22:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, for-each-in has been introduced in Mozilla 1.5. I have changed all for-each-in into for-in loops in the latest version (0.9.17), shift-reload to update. Thanks for helping to improve the progam, Cacycle 01:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A definite improvement today! The logo appears at the top of the page as intended, but thereafter it's sl-o-o-w, & doesn't load properly when editing. However, if I stop the loading I do see your editing buttons (under the textarea), but the text itself then disappears (I see that another user has reported similar behaviour).

These are the errors reported on the JS console:

Error: setting a property that has only a getter

Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s Line: 1257

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMNSHTMLDocument.designMode]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: <unknown filename> :: onload :: line 0" data: no]

I suspect an infinite loop somewhere -- but that's just a guess! I think we're nearly there now ... Ndsg 15:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the first error (version 0.9.17a) and wikEd works more or less under Firefox 1.5.9. I have no idea about the second error message and I don't want to install the ancient Mozilla 1.3 on my computer. Cacycle 17:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Bingo! I've upgraded to Firefox 1.5 (2.0 kept crashing on my computer), & at last everything works. I'm looking forward to using your splendid editor.

One final problem: the buttons work just fine -- but they are below the textarea rather than above it. There must be a simple fix: what is it? Ndsg 21:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry: I now see this is intentional. It's not what I'm used to, that's all.)

BTW The quick Preview feature is fantastic. Ndsg 22:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with today's version (2007, Jan 4th[edit]

Hi,

I have a mediawiki installation, just shift-reloaded and boom :

Erreur : wikEdButtonsCustom1.style has no properties Fichier source : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s Ligne : 1649

I get the source, install it locally, comment the line, then : Erreur : wikEdButtonsCustom2.style has no properties Fichier source : http://172.16.110.27:8080/kiwi/index.php?title=User:Jsanson/wikEd.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s Ligne : 1652

When both lines are commented in the wikEd.js source, it works again.

--Jacques-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.252.57.148 (talk) 16:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Fixed, press Shift-Reload to update. Thanks, Cacycle 20:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Opera incompatibility[edit]

Howdy! I love your editor, but I wish it worked in Opera. I'm using the latest version, 9.10. Wish I could help tweak it but I know nothing about programming. Hope someone else will. Many thanks! --Laura1822 19:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it would be cool if somebody would cooperate to make wikEd compatible with Opera. However, I am not sure if it is possible because Opera was way behind with implementing the necessary JavaScript DOM functions when I last checked - shame on them... Cacycle 01:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning! I am pleased to report that it appeared to be working today in Opera (after a reboot of course); I got the icon and it seemed to load! But when I edited this section to add this comment, my edit box ws empty, i.e., the other comments weren't here. For the record, my Java console reports the following error, twice:
Inlined stylesheet
Invalid value for property: cursor
Line 1:
adding: 0; background: #c0c0c0; border: 1px #b0b0b0 solid; cursor: not-allowed }
Hmm, and it won't add my signature using the button above the text box, or the insert box below. I'll be able to test some more this afternoon. (Also, when I saved it, my comments were lost. So I turned it off in order to post.) And I can't get wikEd to work on my local mediawiki installation, even with Firefox. Thanks! Laura1822 14:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't waste your time, Opera 9.10 can't handle wikEd. The displayed text box under Opera 9.10 is NOT the wikEd text frame but the standard textarea. Cacycle 17:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks anyway! Hope someone has time and inclination to make it work. --Laura1822 01:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ref tag button?[edit]

Please see my posting on the wikEd talk page. Thanks. Ndsg 10:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Just want to give you a big thank you for this awesome tool, WikiEd. I wish I would've discovered it earlier. Good work! W3stfa11 01:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for creation[edit]

For accepting/declining submissions to Articles for creation, please use the templates. Thanks. --Geniac 16:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Translation to Slovenian: update[edit]

(moved to wikEd discussion page)

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Italian wikEd[edit]

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WikiEd[edit]

Nice tool, thank you. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 22:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bug report[edit]

(moved to wikEd discussion page)

Translation to norwegian[edit]

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Norwegian wiki[edit]

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WikiEd[edit]

Nice tool, thank you. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 22:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and a question[edit]

(Second one also moved to wikEd discussion page)

Request for comments/discussion[edit]

Hello Cacycle :) I realize we have had some minor clashes in the past, and that you are not necessarily all that fond of my psychoactive drug chart, and that you would prefer a slightly more stringent use of the term psychedelic drug than one that allows inclusion of cannabis and MDMA, but do know that I have a great deal of respect for you even if we don't always see eye to eye.

Also note that I agree with you that substances such as mescaline, LSD and psilocybin are the only true psychedelics -- I only pushed for the "fringe" inclusion of MDMA and cannabis due to their long and strong association with the real psychedelics, and to simplify our categorization system.

Hence, I was hoping that you might be able to offer your comments towards a debate on the subject of psychedelics with respect to the actions of a recent contributor -- Jolb -- who is pushing for a far more lax use of the term to also include the dissociatives such as PCP, ketamine and DXM. Thanks in advance. --Thoric 21:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Custom buttons[edit]

I see no changes between the new code and what I have at User:Will Pittenger/monobook.js#Custom Buttons. (Note: the section link may not work unless you manually purge the page.) Will (Talk - contribs) 07:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You need to update the wikEdButtonBar['custom1'] = part. Cacycle 13:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A coincidence, or did you deliberately create this in order to mess up my essay? :) Anyway, thanks for creating it (I replaced the link... if you create THIS one, replace it with something else!) – Qxz 07:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would never try to intentionally mess up you assay... ;-) Cacycle 18:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About templates...[edit]

How does someone create a template, like the one that you made for Hallucinogenic phenethylamines? Use the force 17:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Check Help:Template. Cacycle 17:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet, thanks! Use the force 17:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am no sock puppet[edit]

Dear Cacycle,

In the Wikipedia universe you are a powerful and clearly constructive force for the promotion of common knowledge.

In contrast, I am a nobody who made (at least) two fatal mistakes to appear on your radar: (1) creating a reference called Awareness Loves Life and including words that did in fact appear to be self promoting (at the expense of the concept) and (2) included a reference to Transplexity.

These errors have also been highlighted by Chairman S.| and Mocko13.

While I have removed all mention of myself on the Awareness Loves Life page, this may not be enough for you. Indeed, by your standards, this might be one mistake too many.

I accept whatever your decision. I have no power, nor authority like you in the Wikipedia universe. There is one thing however, I strongly find offensive and request your comments.

You listed on my log in that I am some "sock puppet" for some other persons theories. This is far from the truth. A mere twenty second view of http://www.ucadia.com could have shown you that after 20+ years of fighting for the very things you claim to support, I am no lunatic.

Every day I work towards better systems, better thinking and the end to institutions that promote "flat earth" theories. But you did not take the time to view this as I did of your page.

In future, I will try to make valid contributions to the Wikipedia universe that can never be classed as self promoting. All, I ask is for a little respect that there are also other people trying to make a difference. Cheers. Frank O'Collins User:Architect of Ucadia 25 Feb 07

I excuse if I falsely suggested that you might be a sockpuppet of Sacredmint, Sacramentis, and Doctorage. You were the only other user adding a link to that wacko/promo site that has been linkspammed all over Wikipedia by the former accounts. Cacycle 15:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's his site...

Cyclization[edit]

You have made an entry on the Cannabinoid page about the natural cannabinoids and the cyclized form. What do you mean by this?

Thanks...

Barnstar[edit]

The da Vinci Barnstar
For creating and maintaining the wikEd text editor, an indispensable tool which ranks up there with sliced bread and canned beer in the realm of Good Things. -- MarcoTolo 04:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :-) Cacycle 04:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About my edit to WP:WIKED[edit]

I am sorry, I should'nt have made changes to your userpage, and should have previewed anyway. ffm yes? 20:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing real typos is perfectly ok, but the br and div tags as well as certain empty lines are there for a reason. And it is wikEdTM, not WikEdTM :-) Cacycle 03:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You nominated this for deletion review. The decision is to endorse the old AFD but to allow recreation of the article using sources published since. The deletion review did find one new source that might be of interest. Ask for a content review if you need a copy of the old article (in which case, ask for a history restore once you have written a new one). GRBerry 02:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Santonin[edit]

The article santonin is most certainly not within the scope of WikiProject Plants. Please check your bot edits for other mistakes. Thanks, Cacycle 03:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I generate the lists that the bot tags using AWB from subcategories of Category:Plants. Santonin was misplaced in Category:Asteraceae. I try to catch all of the misplaced articles in those subcategories (like the entire subcat Category:Synthetic resins) but with over 8,000 articles and counting, I'm bound to miss a few. Thanks again, I'll double check Category:Asteraceae for other articles that don't belong there. Cheers, --Rkitko (talk) 03:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your work on TV[edit]

Hi Cacycle. Thought I'd let you know that your image, Image:R-DOI.png, was featured on a report on DOI on Look East.

Fame at last!

Ben 17:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, do you have a link? It is now on the Commons (Image:R-DOI chemical structure.png) Cacycle 18:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link to an online version of the report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6308895.stm. No video available, unfortunately, although if you contact the BBC, I'm sure they'll send you a DVD copy of the programme.

Ben 20:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{Chemical drawing needed}}[edit]

Cacycle - I think it is a little presumptuous of you to state that you do not believe that I read articles before tagging them.

I've reviewed the articles that I tagged with the {{Chemical drawing needed}} tag, and I still believe that the tags are appropriate. If you disagree with any of these tags, then why not move the tag to the discussion page. That way at least I might be able to explain my position, and/or we can see if anyone else thinks that the tag is appropriate or not.

I think we all need to have it mind that not all reader have Degrees or Ph.D in chemistry. I believe that in many cases a simple diagram, even if the diagram is only illustrative of the class of compound being talked about can assist a novice in the concept that is being explained.

Best regards -- Quantockgoblin 01:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the talk pages might be a better place for those tags. Do you really think that such non-specific tags will make people create diagrams? Even if they would in a few cases, would this outweigh the presence of these distracting non-encyclopedic tags on hundreds of articles? I do not think so, especially when compared to the quite productive Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Image Request project where diagrams are requested with suggestions and/or explanations. Also: what are your criteria to put the tag on a page - is it simply the the absence of an image for an article? Cacycle 01:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cacycle, I often contribute to Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Image Request page, and I believe that people who contribute to that page also check the Category:Chemistry_pages_needing_pictures page - I know that I do! I think that all tags are a little distracting, it would be better if these tags only showed for registered and log in users - and those logged in users should be able to tick a box to suppress these tags. With regard to the {{Chemical drawing needed}} I guess 'watch this space' might apply, let's see if these tags are actually acted on. The tag as far as I'm aware is quite new, and to some degree I was testing to see if the images would be supplied by users as a result of the tag. I know one case where the image resulted from a request (Oligosaccharide). Finally, I believe that for an article to reach 'good/featured' status it requires an image. I would say that it should be an ideal to have an image with every article - but obviously that image has to be relevant and contribute to the article -- Quantockgoblin 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just to follow up on the above, please see: [[1]] for a discussion on this tag on the talk page of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Image Request. As you can see there are many users who find the tag very useful.
Regarding your question about the tagging of sulfonate (I've moved your question here from my talk page to keep the thread all in one place):
Hey, see Template:Chemical drawing needed... I saw your sulfonate edit and I had no idea what kind of diagram could improve that article. Stating your idea would make it much easier and more probable that somebody actually makes a diagram. Cacycle 00:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]
I think the text formula e.g. -S(=O)2-O is not very satisfactory it is a 'make-do' structure not a structure a chemist would really draw. I think all cases a proper line diagram would be far better and clearer. I think if you are unhappy with the tag generally (and as requested I have now been putting them in the talk page) why not raise the validity of the tag on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Image Request as mentioned above -- all the best Quantockgoblin 00:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry, I was not clear enough. I have added the suggestion parameter to the template, check out the description on Template:Chemical drawing needed :-) Cacycle 00:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I see - I just use the following tag adding text as required e.g. {{Chemical drawing needed|This structure has the wrong stereochemistry}} ... I like it - it is a good idea, so far I've been putting text adjacent to the tag request! -- Quantockgoblin 00:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(unindent) Since you altered the tag, maybe it would be worth while including a link in the tag to the image style guide for drawing molecules? -- Quantockgoblin 23:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold and change the template yourself :-) I have just added the parameter, it does not have to stay as it is. It should be obvious how the parameter thingy works, if not just drop me a node. Cacycle 01:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done -- Quantockgoblin 08:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikEd[edit]

Hi Cacycle, Will you be at the ACS meeting in Chicago next week? I will be briefly showing WikEd for editing chemistry articles (Sunday, 1:35pm), I was wondering if you might be there. If you're around, please let me know so we can meet up. Cheers, Walkerma 05:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea! But I will not go to that meeting. I could join online though... If you need any help for the preparation of your talk / workshop please let me know. If there are any good ideas about improving wikEd, please let me also know. BTW, it is wikEd, not WikEd :-) Cacycle 14:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I mainly use the H2O button - are there any other chemistry-specific features I should know about? (Units, maybe, but I'm looking for sexier things than fixing units- this is only a 20 minute talk!). There is a Chicago meeting wiki where I may set up a page to discuss things. I'm also discussing WP Chemistry with some other ACS folks while there, so if you have any major chemistry things planned for wikEd, please let me know. I'm getting very interested in m:Wikicite, which is now ready for pilot testing, apparently - you should look at that too. Thanks, Walkerma 16:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest something and I'll add it ;-) Cacycle 20:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Something that can read a ChemDraw file or PNG file and convert it to the InChI, or vice versa! Then I'll be really impressed! :) 21:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What is WikiSuite?[edit]

I have no idea what it is. ffm t 15:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Me neither... Let's see if Punk Boi 8 elaborates on his ideas in more depth. Cacycle 16:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IE Compatibility[edit]

I'm interested in getting involved with making WikED compatible with IE - I have access to IE6 and IE7. Where do I start?

Senpai71 19:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, cool! Welcome! I have started the wikEd devevelopment page. Currently there is a short introduction, a (not complete) subroutine description, a description of a testing environment, and a collection of useful links. On the wikEd development talk page we can discuss anything related to wikEd development. The links are also on the wikEd template that can be found on top of every wikEd related page.
Making the code compatible with IE 7 should start with the WikEdSetup() routine that rearranges page elements into wrapper divs and sets up the user interface. There is no way to make it IE6 compatible as far as I can see.
Are you using wikEd on Wikipedia or on another wiki and how did you hear about this project? Cacycle 20:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not using it yet, but it looks pretty cool from the screenshots and I feel it's my duty to move my brethren away from the evils of Firefox and back to M$ :-) Plus I have some free time... Senpai71 00:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cacycle, can you clarify in the article why there are two National Institutes of Health substance summaries for Melanotan II? Thanks. (Netscott) 05:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. Can you provide links. Thanks, Cacycle 05:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes they are at the bottom of the article now. (Netscott) 05:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. :-) (Netscott) 05:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

tryptophan decarb pic[edit]

Hi, I can add in the indole H's but I'm not sure what else you wanted done on it.. Did you want another copy without text, or are you saying there shouldn't be any text?--Eloil 02:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The other language Wikipedias could use that image if you omit all text and upload it to the Commons. Cacycle 02:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My personal preferences would be to shrink the NH bonds so that no line is visible. I would also prefer equal text sizes for the atoms. But, hey, it is really cool that you contribute structures and reactions and this is in no way meant to scare you off :-) Cacycle 02:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B.F.Skinner[edit]

I noticed that you have deleted my edits to the B.F.Skinner article. What procedure should I go through to make sure that my edits are considered? Thanks. (I am very knowledgable on the subject.). (Added by 74.132.86.139)

It was not me, see Talk:B. F. Skinner. If would also suggest to register a username here for more privacy and for discussing things like this. You could then simply sign your discussions with four tildes (~~~~) which will be automatically converted to username/date. Cacycle 17:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Organophosphates[edit]

A new category sounds like a good idea, I wasn't really aware of the connotations of the term personally so thanks for the heads up. Phosphoric acid esters seems like a useful category name but compounds with a string of phosphates like ATP might not be appropriate for it (or maybe they are, I don't know a lot about this area). What about having it as a subtopic of organic phosphates?--Eloil 03:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I like organic phosphates better than Phosphoric acid esters. Either way, the di- and triphosphathes are phosphoric acid esters and anhydrides at the same time, so that's no problem. Cacycle 13:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, if you want to make Category:Organic Phosphates I will put those mushroom alkaloids in it. In the meantime I can move some individual nucleotides out of Organophosphates to clean it up (nucleotides is already a subcategory of Organophosphates so they were in it already anyway without the Category:Organophosphates tag). Aside from this it might be good to change the intro to Organophosphate to indicate usage of the term. The intro says it includes all phosphate esters but the rest of the article seems to deal only with the pesticides. A seperate Organic phosphate article might be useful but I wouldn't have much to contribute to it personally. On the other hand though Phosphate Ester might be a better article name and it might be nice if they matched. Organic phosphate sounds more like an overview of compounds, and Phosphate Ester more like an article on a functional group. I could go either way on it. Maybe we should continue this discussion at one of the relevant talk pages though.--Eloil 06:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hi![edit]

I made a Hungarian translation for wikEd

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cs%C3%B6rf%C3%B6ly_D/wikEd-hu.js

and modified your templates.

--Csörföly D 21:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! If you move your translation to User:User:Csörföly D/wikEd-hu.js at the English Wikipedia I will be able to update this file with new and changed texts myself. Cacycle 01:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have now copied your translation from your Hungarian userspace to your English userspace. I will link to the English Wikipedia version under User:User:Csörföly D/wikEd-hu.js, you might want to erase the original version :-) Cacycle 01:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While this section frequently gets out of hand, it seems a little presumptive to remove everything except the sole example that is prevalent in North America, but virtually unheard of in Europe and Australasia, where "dropping" (out of all of the examples previously listed) is pre-eminent. Nick Cooper 08:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding one or two prevalent terms for England, Canada, or Australia would be fine (referenced of course to a reliable source (not just a slang list somewhere on the net)). We have to avoid long lists of unreferenced, outdated or short-lived, and local slang names. Cacycle 13:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way?[edit]

I saw your comment Here but I do not have enough money to get a new one. Could there be a small addition to make it work or will I need to wait till I get a new compute? «razorclaw» 20:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Firefox is for free, download it under [2]. Cacycle 20:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wikEd[edit]

Our translation page is not protected, so you can edit it without problems. If we move it under en.wiki, I'll not have it in my watchlist and so, if it's not a problem, I prefer to keep it on it.wiki. Thanks for the news, I've updated our translation page. --Jalo 08:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, somehow I lost the overview, I will add the changes myself. But the general problem is that the translation JavaScript files must be protected, otherwise it would be a potential security risk for the users (even if it is on your watchlist). Cacycle 12:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hi[edit]

Hi, i'm new here! how are you?!

Chemistry[edit]

Since you have an interest in drawing chemical models, Im doing research on isoxazole compounds and derivatives if you feel like chatting about the chemistry behind it, I think itd be interesting.

Move structure to commons[edit]

Hi Cacycle. Could you please move the structure Image:Methyl acetate.png to the commons? Like this, it could be used in the other language versions of WP. Thank you. --Leyo 14:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just point out to me...[edit]

...the other day on the Wiki I am usually on. I'll see what I can do, but my time is very limited. Shane (talk/contrib) 02:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wikEd[edit]

Ok, but in the meantime I've modified my en.wiki nick from Jalo2 to User:Jalo, so I cannot edit it. Could you move it under User:Jalo/wikEd international it.js? Bye --Jalo 09:13, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't work. I got errors on loading pages (syntax errors within the first lines of html content), and all the shown labels are in english. Some pages doesn't load all the wikEd, just the "wikEd control buttons". I've copied the italian code for translation into our monobook (near the end of the page).
Does it work for other wikis? --Jalo 13:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed everything from Jalo2 to Jalo. Please change it:Wikipedia:Monobook.js/MonobookCompleto.js accordingly. I have tested it and it worked fine. Do not forget to update with Shift-Reload when you are done. Cacycle 13:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wikEd[edit]

ok http://hu. changed to http://en. Csörföly D 12:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks. Cacycle 12:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SMILES[edit]

Ok fixed the smiles tag on the O-acetylpsilocin page. How does smiles work anyway, is there a (freeware) program to calculate it automatically? Meodipt 12:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Check SMILES. There are web tools, but I use the non-free ChemDraw.

Also what should I do when there is more than one melting point listed? I've been going round and changing the templates so they all have the same standardised drugs one, as its much neater than each compound having a different template used, and the drugs template has much more space for data, but it only has one slot for melting point, so I've put the mp for the HCl salt, should I put the freebase mp into the body text?

Meodipt 12:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Put all of them in there as text, never remove information. If that's not yet possible then the template has to be changed. Cacycle 16:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shortcuts[edit]

Thanks for your wikiEd!
1.
Could you please inform me, whether there are any predefined shortcuts for the buttons? Or is it possible to define some individually?
2.
I would like to use shortcuts to insert specific hungarian characters: ŐőŰű. How could I do it? (Sorry, if this is no wikiEd issue)
Alberttalk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.166.174.55 (talk) 21:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

1. Not yet, but I could add it.
2. It is probably easier to use a Hungarian keyboard layout.
Cacycle 22:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

your edits to Molecule[edit]

Cacycle, you have just reverted the introductory section of that article to a vulnerable state that in the past had justified a long series of wild edits and contributions. The version you have modified was the result of a cooperative effort of capturing the essence of various definitions and aspects, and --rather than being stale-- it was relatively stable for a long period of time because of the achieved consensus. Please take a look at the history and the discussion page. The IUPAC definition by itself is not sufficient for the broader scope of this article as it is given from the narrow perspective of theoretical chemistry. The multiple citations referenced by user:Sadi_Carnot as note 1 are proof of the wide inconsistence in defining a molecule among authoritative academia circles.

Also, the short discussion about divisibility that you have wiped was provided in support of that most general definition involving the "smallest particle..." and is of historical importance (see for ex. here as well as history of the molecule)

Also, it is incorrect to include NaCl in the discussion about network solids. That discussion was intended to differentiate the concepts of covalent vs. molecular.

I guess the general message here is that most things were included in the article for a reason, and hope you will reconsider your next edit, but for now I am revering to the mentioned version and would appreciate your discussing the intended contribution on the talk page--Unconcerned 03:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my replies at Talk:Molecule#edits_to_definition_and_introductory_section. Cacycle 03:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I reinstated your contribution and replied at Talk:Molecule#edits_to_definition_and_introductory_section. Sorry for being superficial.--Unconcerned 05:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vista: IE7?[edit]

Does not seem to work... is this a known issue? Ver 9.35n says 'browser not supported' but I've seen other IE7 users claim it's working.

Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.24.112.2 (talk) 18:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Sorry, IE is not yet supported. Currently it is Mozilla-only (e.g. FireFox). Cacycle 18:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]