User talk:Cacycle/Archive 03

Melanotan

Greetings,

I noticed that you previously added a fine image of the structure for melanotan II on the Melanotan article. I was wondering if you might have (or be able to make) an image for just Melanotan?

Thanks!

Netscott 19:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Classical structural formulas are not really suitable for large biomolecules such as longer peptides, proteins, or nucleic acids. Melanotan II is a borderline case, but Melanotan itself or MSH are clearly to large for structural formulas. The amino acid sequence Ac-Ser-Tyr-Ser-Nle-Glu-His-D-Phe-Arg-Trp-Gly-Lys-Pro-Val-NH2 holds the same information but is way easier to overview and to understand. Beside that I have improved the existing images (scaled down a bit, stereochemistry). Cacycle 12:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for your explanation, I understand. I just noticed your edits... Thanks updating those images and the formatting on the Melantoan article. Netscott 17:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit tool

When I install it, nothing happens. Why doesn't this work?Voice-of-All^T|@|ESP 16:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

It will only work with modern Mozilla browsers (FireFox, SeaMonkey, MozillaSuite). If you are using one of them it would help if you could provide some details of what you did... Cacycle 17:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yiu also need to flush your cache (Shift-Reload). Cacycle 17:49, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Caycle. I really like your edit tool. It worked without problems for a couple of days, but then the edit summary box became only a few characters wide. This isn't serious but it is a nuisance. Any suggestions? (I'm using Firefox v. 1.5.0.7 and the Simple edit tool.) Thanks. --Rbraunwa 16:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Another question. Can I install this on other wikipedias I edit and on Commons, or is it just for the English Wikipedia? --Rbraunwa 17:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

javascript diff code fixes to work in IE

First let me thank Cacycle for this code. There are two problems with using the code in IE.

1) Stylesheets cannot be insrted into the head using IE so I ceated a StyleSheet object that would work across both IE and Firefox. To use this object just change the SetupDiff() function to the following code:

// New StyleSheet Object
function StyleSheet() {
    this.newStyleSheetElem = null;

    if (document.createStyleSheet)
        this.newStyleSheetElem = document.createStyleSheet() ;
    else {
        this.newStyleSheetElem = document.createElement('style');
        this.newStyleSheetElem.type = 'text/css';
         var insert = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
         if (insert != null) {
            insert.appendChild(this.newStyleSheetElem);
         }
    }

    this.addRule = function(theSelector,theStyle) {
        if (this.newStyleSheetElem.addRule) {
            this.newStyleSheetElem.addRule(theSelector,theStyle) ;
        } else {
            if (this.newStyleSheetElem.sheet && this.newStyleSheetElem.sheet.insertRule) {
                this.newStyleSheetElem.sheet.insertRule(theSelector + ' { ' + theStyle + ' } ', 0);
            }
        }
    } ;
}

// SetupDiff: install style sheets
function SetupDiff() {
    var newStyle = new StyleSheet() ;
    newStyle.addRule(".diffDelete", styleDelete) ;
    newStyle.addRule(".diffInsert", styleInsert) ;
    i = 0;
    while (styleColor[i] != null) {
        newStyle.addRule('.diffBlock' + (i + 1), styleColor[i]) ;
        newStyle.addRule('.diffMoved' + (i + 1), styleColor[i] + ' ' + styleMoved) ;
        i ++;
    }
    diffStyleMax = i;
}

2) The second problem in IE happens in the function SplitText(). The pattern must be defined as a variable and cannot be used inline if you want to continue searching from the last position. Change to following to fix the problem:

function SplitText(oldText, newText, text) {

// convert strange spaces
    oldText = oldText.replace(/[\t\v\u00A0\u2028\u2029]+/g, ' ');
    newText = newText.replace(/[\t\v\u00A0\u2028\u2029]+/g, ' ');

// split old text into words
//                /     |    |    |    |    |   |  |     |   |  |  |    |    |    | /
    var pattern = /[\w]+|\[\[|\]\]|\{\{|\}\}|\n+| +|&\w+;|'''|''|=+|\{\||\|\}|\|\-|./g  ;
    var result;
    do {
        result = pattern.exec(oldText);
        if (result != null) {
            text.oldWords.push(result[0]);
        }
    } while (result != null);

// split new text into words
    pattern = /[\w]+|\[\[|\]\]|\{\{|\}\}|\n+| +|&\w+;|'''|''|=+|\{\||\|\}|\|\-|./g ;
    do {
        result = pattern.exec(newText);
        if (result != null) {
            text.newWords.push(result[0]);
        }
    } while (result != null);

    return;
}

After these changes I was able to use the algorithm in both IE and FireFox. I did not test in any other browser. Hope this helps.

Optimization steps for StringDiff

I recommend adding the following to the begining of StringDiff function to optimize the speed. Since most of the time the strings are equal we can check right off and return the string.

// Optimization steps
    if (oldText == newText)
        return newText ;

    if (oldText==null || oldText.length==0)
        return '<' + insTag + ' class="diffInsert">' + Escape(newText)+ '</' + insTag + '>';

    if (newText==null || newText.length==0)
        return '<' + delTag + ' class="diffDelete">' + Escape(oldText) + '</' + delTag + '>';

Thanks a lot for your contribution! I will add the proposed changes as soon as possible. Cacycle 23:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I have made the code cross-browser, it now works for the Mozillas, IE, and even Opera. Since Opera is not standards-compliant and does not allow to access and change the stylesheets, I am now using inline style definitions. However, the indicator's html code and css is fully customizable and can be easily switched to external style definitions.

While trapping the trivial cases you forgot the html formatting of the unchanged texts (e.g. \n to
). Try my new code... Thanks again, Cacycle 22:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

diff article formatting

your whitespace changes to the diff article broke the examples. I can tell you're familiar with diff, so you should have used it to make sure your changes didn't affect the output. ;) --64.223.81.196 05:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I have now reapplied the changes without breaking the examples. Cacycle

issue with image

Hello,

I'm from the french wikipedia, and we have a problem with one of your image put on the article Kevlar. I checked on other wiki and each time we have the problem with this image and another one, also about kevlar. example (image appears as a fine line):

Kevlar

do you have any idea of why it's like that

thanks a lot for your reply --Leridant 09:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

This is a problem with the server-site resizing of large images. I have now made the Kevlar images smaller, that should solve the problem. Cacycle 11:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Diff gets a stack overflow

Comparing the following two text strings

 Old Text: "Expert CPAs and Bookkeepers provide comprehensive tax services and offer in depth tax consulting for both large corporatio /r /n \r\n"

 New Text: "&n&r&tm"

causes TextDiff() to go into an infinite loop and get a stack overflow in IE and "too much recursion" error in Firefox. This function does have a recursionLevel variable but you are not using that to detect too many recursions have occurred.

Currently the only way to stop this bug from happening is to set recursiveDiff to false.

Questions:

1) Can you fix this so that we do not go into infinite recursion?

2) What does recursiveDiff do and what are the side effects of setting it to false?

Thanks

Shamsian

Are you using the newest version? I have fixed that bug - at least I have limited the recursion level to 10 ("if (recursionLevel > 10) {"). Using the new code your example does not give an error for me. Cacycle 20:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The recursion is needed for the following feature:

* Additional post-pass 5 code for resolving islands caused by adding two common words at the end of sequences of common words

Disabling doesn't do any harm, you just get sometimes a delete/insert indicator for identical texts when actually nothing has changed. Cacycle 21:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Homebrewing PT-141

I'm interested in homebrewing some pt-141 and was wondering if you new an appropriate solvent. i mean, other than water. How about preservatives? How temperature-sensitive is this particular peptide? etc. etc., and apologies if this question is to risque. No obligation to answer...

Alcibiades www.alcibiadesdream.com

If you plan to synthesize it: forget it, no way to do it yourself, it's too complex :-) As a peptide it will probably be soluble in water, but I don't have any further infos. Cacycle 23:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Penicillin synthesis image

Hello! I noticed that you uploaded this image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penicillin-biosynthesis.png and I may have spotted something small that maybe off... the molecule labeled as L-amino-adipic acid appears to be glutamic acid. I think for the adipic acid there needs to be one more CH2 in the side chain. Cheers!

Oops, I will upload a corrected version asap. Cacycle 15:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The new version is online. Cacycle 18:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Question regarding PT-141. How is it able to cross the BBB. According to a wikipedia article, oxytocin cannot cross the BBB, for instance. Both are peptides. I was under the impression that peptides didn't cross the blood brain barrier in general, but PT-141 effects are allegedly mediated by actions on hypothalmic melanocortin receptors, i.e., it is hitting the brain. Is this effect due to active trasnport of some sort? Would love to clear this matter up, I'm writing a paper on this stuff, and have other interests in it, per the "homebrew" comment.

Spaces around pipes

Hi, I have just been playing with your js tool, very cool. However the "fix blanks around pipes" option works in the opposite fashion to virtually every piped link I've ever seen, and can also cause some links to be displayed impropery, i.e. it changes (Holland) to ( Holland). The behaviour should be the opposite way around to how it is now. thanks. Martin 12:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I have overseen your comment. Actually the spaces around the pipes were intentionally, it made larger link lists way easier to read. However, I was not aware that it inserts a blank when the link is preceeded by a non-space. I think I will make the button into a link list-only function. Thanks, Cacycle 21:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Diff algorithm gets confused

StringDiff gets all confused when comparing the following two strings. Look at where it is showing the deleted texts are. For example "Get more information" should be shown as deleted at the end of the string not in the middle. And I don't know why "monitoring" is shown as deleted text at the end of the string? In addition there are problems with block moves. It is only marking "security system" as a block move where as "security review" was also moved. Actually the word security should probably not be marked at all as deleted or moved text. Only the word review and system should be marked.

Old Text: Get a free home security review, a free security system monitored by ADT, and one free month of monitoring. Get more information.
New Text: Get a free home security system, free ADT® monitoring for one month, and free security review. Protect your home from crime and fire now.

Output: Get a free home security review security system monitored by, free ADT, and® monitoring. Get more information. for< one free month of, and free security review, a free. Protect your home from crime and fire now. monitoring

Shamsian 00:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that report. The example is pretty confusing, but I will try to figure out the problem:

• The new text (non-red) is ok.
• ' security review' and ' monitoring' are block moves with less than 3 words (spaces count as words) and have been substituted by insertions / deletions (try: blockMinLength = 0;)
• The red text is not in the same order as in the original text - it is not possible to reconstruct the original text by omiting the green text.
• More specifically, deleted text after moved blocks appears after the moved block and not at the original position.
• There seem to be no other problems.

I will try to fix that asap if possible.

Cacycle 21:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

This one may take a while but it is not forgotten... Cacycle 21:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Javascript Diff Code

Can you add a version number to diff code so we know when it is updated. It can be in the comments at the begining. It could be a version number and/or the date of last time the file was changed. Shamsian 19:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Cacycle 22:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. I have named the new version 0.9.0. Cacycle 21:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

stringDiff goes into an infinite loop

Campering the following two strings will cause stringDiff to go into an infinite loop.

Stamps & Mailing Supplies: Stamps.com
Stamps.com: Stamps & Mailing Supplies

I think the fix for this is as follows - In function DiffToHtml(text, block) change the following lines:

Change from:
            while ( delText.charAt(0) == insText.charAt(0) )
Change to:
            while ( delText.charAt(0) == insText.charAt(0) && ( (delText != '') && (insText != '') ) )


And Change from:
            while ( delText.charAt(delText.length - 1) == insText.charAt(insText.length - 1) )
Change To:
            while ( delText.charAt(delText.length - 1) == insText.charAt(insText.length - 1) && ( (delText != '') && (insText != '') ) )

This should fix the infinite loop. Shamsian 00:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I have now added your suggestions to the new version. Cacycle 21:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh dear...

Although my goal was for the substing of the chemical templates, I can see that it got in the way of the if templates. Template substing will now go the way of automated spelling correction. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 19:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Pyrazine chemical structure.png

Hello Cacycle, I just wanted to inform you that I copied this Image to the german wikipedia. Sincerely yours, NEUROtiker--88.72.47.26 22:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you just upload it to the Wikimedia Commons? That way every Wikipedia could use an image. Moreover, somebody has added non-standard compliant electron pairs, the only currently accepted way by the IUPAC are two dots and they have been omitted from the two structures from the right for a reason. Moreover, the colors have been screwed up. Please could you upload my original image to the commons? Thanks, Cacycle 09:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I just uploaded the picture to commons [1] and I will talk to the user that changed the picture at german wikipedia that we should keep it like it is. Greetings, NEUROtiker --88.72.47.26 10:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Cacycle 12:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I did so cause I learned it at school. Sry ;). I reverted my version. --DerHexer 13:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Penicillin synthesis

Your diagram for biosynthesis of penicillin shows the ACV tripeptide with L-Valine. The peptide is actually made with the more 'unnatural' D-Valine - any chance of an update?

**Blush** I took the chance to upload the corrected high-res versions to the Commons. Cacycle 19:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Gefahrensymbol E.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Gefahrensymbol E.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

Image:Gefahrensymbol C.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Gefahrensymbol C.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

213.54.2.117 10:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Imidazoline

I need you to make images for this compounds and they should look like Image:Naphthalene.png. I could make similar ones but since you have started it i would like that you keep doing it so they have the same style. Actually i want you to make these kind of images for all compounds that are considered the parent for a chemical category - Imidazolidine, Pyrazole, etc. Put them in "commons". -- Boris 16:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Script error

Whenever I use IE6 I am getting this error:

It is in line 1368 and it starts at character 2.

navigator.appName.match(..) is apparently returning null. This gives two errors that appear to be the same. Hope you can fix this as this makes the scripts not function. Thanks. --SomeStranger^(t|c) 20:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The editor script does not work with Internet Explorer - there are many more incompatibilities. Why don't you use a better browser like Mozilla Firefox? Cacycle 21:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I do use mozilla firefox, this was just so that I could use the script when I was running VandalProof. Is there anyway you might be able to have it disable itself when it is running in IE, so I at least don't get the constant error messages each time I enter a page? Thanks again.--SomeStranger^(t|c) 11:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

(Maybe adding this as a restriction to things before they start)

if (navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('msie')+1)
  {
    Don't do things
  }

--SomeStranger^(t|c) 02:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I have fixed the browser detection, the editor script should no longer create any error messages. Cacycle 21:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks :)--SomeStranger^(t) 12:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Chemical Sources

Dear Cacycle, Martin Walker mentioned your name in a part of the duscussion/dispute on the 'chemical suppliers' when we were disussing a solution. I see on your user-page that you do write php-programs, so (also) I was wondering if you could help us. Could you please have a look at Wikipedia:Chemical sources, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals#ChemSources? Or, more specifically, could you write a 'Special:ChemicalSources'-page? Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

I can't believe no one has given you a barnstar for your amazing editing tool! For saving me a ton of time (and the trouble of copying-and-pasting text I'm editing into Word to do find & replaces), I hereby award you The Working Man's Barnstar. Keep up the good work! Λυδαcιτγ 21:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

---

Wow, cool, thanks! I am currently working on a complete rewrite with many, many more features, including:

• Rich-text editing
• Pasting formatted text, e.g. from MS-Word
• Converting the formatted text to wikicode
• Syntax highlighting
• Nice icons for the buttons
• Better undo / redo functions

Cacycle 13:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Sweet! Λυδαcιτγ 20:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Chemical structure

how do u make those pictures of chemicals?

(above question was added by User:Zelos)

See my user page User:Cacycle for a detailed description. BTW, you should always sign your comments by typing ~~~~. Cacycle 11:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Editor stopped working?

Hi there. I have used your edit tool for quite a while over at Uncyclopedia, but a couple of days ago it just stopped working. It looks like it still downloads from the wp servers, none of the other js functions are broken, and there appear to be no javascript errors in the console or anything. Any idea what the problem could be? Has any part of it changed recently? I think at uncyclopedia we use a slightly different setup with the editpage-copywarn section, could that be affecting it? Though I don't think that's been changed for a while, and it was all definitely working 2 or 3 days ago. I'm very confused about what could be going wrong! Thanks. --Spang 03:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The only change I've noticed is that the find-and-replace goes really slow when using regex. I'm not sure if this is new, but I don't remember it from my first time using the regex feature, a few months ago. Λυδαcιτγ 05:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

LSD

Sorry, misread the earlier version as saying that such studies had not been done, rather than that they had been done and found no effect. The new version is clearer.

Erowid suggests that the benefit of niacin is as a placebo, specifically because of its flushing effect. Nareek 17:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Request to discuss proposed changes to Psychedelic drug

Please do not strip down / merge the psychedelic drug article without discussing it first. Thank-you :) --Thoric 21:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope you didn't take offense to anything I wrote on the talk page. I do wish to reach a compromise, and regularly fend off changes to pages where people try to label dissociatives (ketamine, dxm) as psychedelics. I certainly do not wish to discourage you from improving the article. --Thoric 23:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Nabilone

Hello! I´d like to know what is the etimology of nabilone/nabilona, can you help me? Is it from (can)nab(is) or something like this? Thanks Renata

I would say they made up the name from Dronabinol (THC) and one, the suffix for ketones (C=O). Hope that helps, Cacycle 22:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

diagrams of drugs

Hi Cacycle this is Meodipt (logged on from my mates computer so not signed in)

Please if you are going to remove my drug diagrams then replace it with another one instead of leaving the page without a structure. Pages about research chemicals should always have a diagram of the structure of the molecule so people can learn about the structure-activity relationships. I've been going round adding stuctural diagrams to pages that don't have them; if you have a problem with my pictures thats fine but replace it don't delete it!

I think you are talking about the many wrong structures you put up for lysergamides. They had to be removed because they were plain wrong. They missed double bonds or had double bonds in the wrong position. Please double-check your structures the next time before uploading them (or let more experienced people make the structures), I have better things to do in my spare time than to redraw wrong structures. Cacycle 22:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Before I deleted the image links I had left a warning on the image pages that they are wrong. Additionally, I stated the reason for deleting them in the edit summary. Cacycle 00:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay i went back and redrew them all CORRECTLY, it took under 15 minutes. You have the time to go through and delete them all one by one, but not the time to spend 2 minutes on chemdraw fixing them? Thats great buddy, very constructive attitude you have there. Anyway they are all fixed now. Meodipt 05:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Essential oil

Essential oils aren't oils? All of the reading I've done says that they are. Not trying to be argumentative, but could you give some sources to the contrary, please? Let's discuss it on the talk page of the template. --Waitak 15:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

DMT - Mimosa

I included your last edit in my sweeping revert as reference to this is readily listed in Erowid's DMT files. __meco 23:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Kehrli

I saw your comment on mass spectrum and I hope you could help me. I have a request for arbitration open and have gone through mediation with Kehrli however I am very frustrated with the situation. It seems that because it is a technical issue those that don't understand the issue think that it is just a simple content dispute and don't take the time to understand that it is about original research by synthesis and appropriate behavior. If there is someone to sort this out it may be you. Please help. I would like serious and firm resolution to this soon, regardless of outcome.--Nick Y. 17:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Nick, you are vandalizing with POV of a small group. I am just restoring the content representing the international consensus of the larger scientific community, as described in the IUPAC green book. --Kehrli 17:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I must say that I am impressed by your awareness of the issue at hand. You must really have followed every word exchanged. I was blown away by your eloquent presentation that was even more elucidating of a truth greater than even I understood. --Nick Y. 18:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I was also amazed. And I am very surprised that even though you seem to invest a lot of time, you seem not to understand the issue. Have you ever read the IUPAC green book? --Kehrli 15:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kehrli

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kehrli. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kehrli/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kehrli/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 19:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Delete my history

Hi, are you able to the delete the history of my user page (not the talk page)? I've removed some personal information that I'd rather not be public. Thanks.--Daveswagon 01:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I did it. BTW, even if the page history gets deleted, the information has already spread over the net (e.g. search engines) and into web archives (e.g. the WayBack machine) and there is no way to undo that. Cacycle 05:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, Cacycle, thanks very much for your help on the Template:Biochemical families and its sub-templates, esp. Template:Alkaloids! They still need a lot of work, so feel free to make whatever contributions or suggestions you can. See you in Wiki-space, Willow 11:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

wierd edit

Hi, whats the deal with this edit, i.e. the extra nbsp;, the "wikEdListBlock" comments and all the spans at the bottom? Martin 21:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ooops, looked like wikEd artifacts, I have removed them. Cacycle 22:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You are still doing it. Martin 22:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Galatasaray article

On the page of Galatasaray i saw a mistake but i cannot revert it becauce the page is under protection , in the Managerial area Yılmaz Gökdel was the manager in 1974-1975 season could you fix this? http://www.webaslan.com/kulup/antrenor.php this is the official site of Galatasaray here it says that Gokdel is coach for the 74-75 season :)

Johnny200 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I created a baby stub for the article benzethonium chloride.

Free free to jump into the contributions with this benzethonium chloride stub. Good Luck. BenzethoniumChloride 06:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Reply to your bot-edit suggestion

I'm pretty sure the majority of those edits are correct: all the articles are in the Category:psychoactive drugs hierarchy, and reverting them all would be considerable overkill. If you're aware of particular sub-cats in that tree that aren't psychoactives at all, or tend to prone to "false positives" for being same, I'll look those over in particular. BTW, your edit to my talk page seems to have some formatting problems. Alai 00:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I see that you have -- though when you say "by hand", I gather you mean: en masse, using rollback, without examination of the individual edits. But I don't see why either: you consider them to be "thoughtless", after my explanation of exactly the basis they were carried out; or, you've reverted edits such as [2], [3], [4] and numerous others, which appear to me to be entirely correct (other than that you did so en masse). Is it your aim something beyond correcting actual errors (which seem to me to correspond to incorrect categorisation in the first place), in acting to almost entirely depopulate the new stub type? (Which is altogether required, in view of the size of the parent, in my view.) You also didn't answer my question about which sub-categories of the psychoactive drugs you considered to not be psychoactives, and I can conclude very little on that from the blanket nature of your reversion. Can you say whether you agree if the hypnotics, sedatives, opioids, stimulants, anxiolytics, antidepressants, antipsychotics, alkyl nitrites, psychedelics, dissociatives, deliriants, mu-opioid agonists, semisynthetic opioids and mood stabilizers are all indeed "psychoactive"? Alai 15:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Bug in Editor: See Screenshot

See the screenshot below:

click to enlarge screenshot (shown at 25%)

There's some bug/incompatibility in the editor that shortens the "Edit Summary field", which has appeared just lately. Have any other users observed this?? Thanks for noticing.

Schweiwikist (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

UPDATED: Thanx Cacyle for confirming the buglet; I've reduced the shot. Schweiwikist (talk) 17:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying, I will try to fix this during the next days. It is probably caused by a MediaWiki software change. Cacycle 21:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I am so glad to see this. I was thinking it was me!! Applies (for me) to both of your editors. Thanks tho for the quality .js. Regards --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I have now fixed the issue. It was caused by a MediaWiki update in the monobook.css file. Please press SHIFT-Reload to update to this fix. Cacycle 21:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! I've just noticed the fix in the regular editor. I'll check out WikEd shortly.
 Schweiwikist   (talk)  00:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

wikED

Thank you for informing me about your new editor. I'll switch to it ASAP. I'd be glad to help you in localization of your tools. (into Persian Language and "RTL"!) Hessam 23:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer! But let's for wait a while with the localization until the code and the messages become more stable. But it is definitely on the list. Cacycle 23:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiEd problem

I have problems with the new WikiEd:

1. all the scripts that interact with the edit textarea do not work
2. When I try to edit wikilinks, it does not let me, I have to try seveal times before I can ovewrite or change a wikilink
3. I have a spurious scrollbar in the middel of the page, not associated with anything in particular

Using FireFox 1.5.0.7 on Mac OS X

I have reverted to editor.js

≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 02:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jossi, I am sorry for that. Other users have experienced similar problems, the current version is obviously not fully compatible with Mac OS X. I hope to fix the issues soon. See the discussion page for details. Cacycle 03:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The issue has probably been fixed, see the discussion page and press SHIFT-Reload to update to the bugfix. Cacycle 04:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

wikEd buglets (cosmetic)

As AOL says: "You've got mail!". I'm actively using and testing the new editor. See its talk page for my first feedback.  Schweiwikist   (talk)  02:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE: Decided to switch back to editor for the time being. Simple reason: it loads so much faster and behaves better.  Schweiwikist   (talk)  14:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiEd suggestions

I used WikiEd for a day or two; here's some suggestions:

1. It would be quite awesome if the syntax highlighting could be stripped out and made available as a separate package. I don't particularly want all of WikiEd, but the syntax highlighting, like FF 2's inline spellchecker, is something that just Makes Life Better.

• 1. On a related note, could you make the default color for internal links to be something other than that bright red? It is totally overpowering, and overpowers FF 2's spellchecking default color.

1. I don't know what it is doing to the edit box, but I really hate how tab is stolen; hitting tab to go to the edit summary box and save is so second nature that I ran into this every time I edited, even though I knew better.

That's all for now. More speed might be better - it's disconcerting to see WikiEd catch up half a second or whatever after the edit box has loaded, but I realize that that is a nebulous and hard to implement suggestion. --Gwern (contribs) 16:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Plase see my reply under User_talk:Cacycle/wikEd. Thanks, Cacycle 16:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

wikEd New Bug Report & what’s a Load Error?

Hi. New report (scrollbar issue is fixed), but now I get "load error", was working fine for a while...

 Schweiwikist   (talk)  09:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

FOLLOWUP: I'm suddenly consistently getting "load error" reports every time I try to run the thing. My FF cache is 96MB. I also noticed you've sub-edited the .js code a few minutes apart (the one in bold is current as of my typing this, timestamped 00:19 on 11/10/06):

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&oldid=86868806
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&oldid=86871621

"* http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&oldid=86873935

I had a funny feeling when the load errors started you saved some edit "live" while I was shift-reloading the script, but the wikEd history's timestamps tell me no. Anyway, I'm getting constant "load error" s now, and will fall back to your old editor again (sorry!) till the next update. It seems to me if you're updating the code and posting it "live" it might help to add an alphabet letter code to differentiate from sub - version to sub - version (bad choice of word). I only ask this because I'm tempted to copy a raw historic version of 0.9.4 (or even older) from your edit history into my ".js" page and see which ones break and which ones don't. What could cause a load error? Why did it start happening? I'm peeking at wikEd's diffs to try to figure out how you're squashing bugs even though I have no clue about javascript!  Schweiwikist   (talk)  14:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

will be offline for a while; ttfn.  Schweiwikist   (talk)  14:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Approaching Final Candidate?

From  Schweiwikist   (talk)  20:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC) : Noticeable improvements: control area layout glitches have been resolved! Starting testing of buttons: Suggestion for the redirect button: if behavior will not (as it indeed does not currently) match the stock button 's (blue row), then: expand your button title to read: "AutoRedirect (clears all but selected text)". It's a clever trick your button does, but all functions to the left are plain formatting inserters, and the #R button is very different in its effect because it deletes text!

In the next version it is "Create redirect, deletes whole text". Cacycle 23:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Next: here's something valuable I'll suggest in the logic area: The "Update Syntax Highlighing" button ought to be disabled unless the "Toggle Syntax Highlighting" button (which uses an identical icon!!) is in the on position and the highlighting is visible. I approach the highlighting feature as a "mode change" in the interface, so the "Updater" should be a child control to the "Enabler". On this same subject, using the word "toggle" is obviously a way of avoiding double-labeling the toggle buttons based on their current state: Enable/Disable. Also I see some interface buttons act like triggers (momentary switches) that are mainly push-on/push-off, but the toggles show their status by the shadowing. Fair enough.

Actually one is independent from the other logically. One lets you highlight a selection whenever you want, the other one toggles the 'auto-highlighting' that is also performed after any edit button change. Cacycle 23:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Then there's "Change font size". If you really want to be slick, call that button just "Text size" (like the browser menu item), and resize the appearance of the "slanty A" based on the status, with a rotation of icons (how hard is that to program?). That button is actually a 4-position rotary switch, so even though its effect is obvious, the button itself just kinda sits there. Calling the button "font size" suggests that it's something other than just a "view" switch, but I caught on fast. I might use a monospaced-style "e" instead of the classic slanted "a". But it's nice! more much later. . .  Schweiwikist   (talk)  20:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

In the next version it's now called "Text zoom" (Text zoom cycling) :-) Cacycle 23:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

wikEd help : Refinement

Happy to be of service. I'll be back to do more now that I've determined the help page can be a collaqborative effort, but it's the top of the hour. Just watch the page in the next few hours. Thanks for the new color scheme and icon design.  Schweiwikist   (talk)  18:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

FOLLOWUP: If you could tag the screenshot I made of the button bar, so it doesn't get deleted . . . thanx.  Schweiwikist   (talk)  18:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by that. Cacycle 18:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Addition to split pattern splitting words beginning with HTML tags correctly

I had a problem with diffing text which contains HTML tags. If I ie. inserted <h2>Hello world</h2> He showd: <<ins>h2>Hello world</h2> Which is not ok.

So I finally figured out (as many JS diff libs having this problem) that it is in the \w operator for regex in javascript. You dont want he thinks < is a word. So you should change the pattern into this: var pattern = /[<]?[\w]+|\[|\]|\{|\}|\n+|&\w+;|'||=+|\{\||\}|\-|./g;

I just figured it out. Don't have any sideeffects but thought I'd let you know before I forget it... :) I deleted also some double expressions (like all the \{ were double. Couldn't grasp any sense in it..?)

Cheers and thanks for the diff script!

Jan

Scroll Pump Animation

Where did you get it from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheElderOne (talk • contribs)

Check the image description by clicking the image :-) It's selfmade. Cacycle 15:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Discretion in edits

Please be more selective when deciding to revert. As you can see from this edit,[5], you did more than just reinsert a YouTube link. CovenantD 02:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: Stop deleting youtube links

"I took the freedom to revert your tool-assisted mass removal of youtube links. The edit summary was Rm links to "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" for video clips per WP:EL using AWB. This statement is obviously wrong, there is no such guideline on the WP:EL page and the discussion on wikipedia_talk:external links is clearly against removing the links. Therefore I consider your action vandalism and I will report this incident of AWP misuse so that your AWB permission will be removed. If you continue these deletions I will be happy to block you. Cacycle 01:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)"

To the contrary, there used to be just such a guideline, and it was only removed several days afterwards. I see no consensus at WT:EL that came to the conclusion that linking to copyrighted content was good, and I did not just remove all YouTube links I came across- I individually reviewed each one to see if it was a valid link, and removed those that werent. In addition, I didn't even use AWB. Please actually investigate situations fully before throwing around mass-reverts and threats of blocking. --Rory096 02:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, you were the only one who was not using AWB. I will remove your name from Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. Cacycle 03:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no background in the issue concerning these links, but I did happen to see a couple of the messages you posted. Everyone is subject to the same rules and responsibilities, but at the same time, I think you need to be aware that one of the people you accused of vandalism and threatened to block is not only an administrator but also an arbitrator. I hope disputes, especially between experienced admins, can be worked out in a more civil manner. Newyorkbrad 03:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

After rereading WP:EL and calming down a bit I now think it might have been a more or less legit use of AWB, although for a controversial task. I have undone my reverts and removed or clarified the user notifications. Cacycle 04:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, what do you mean? I'm pleased to discuss it, but there's nothing controversial going on. User:Dmcdevit/YouTube might help. I don't mind or take personally anything you just did as long as you've fixed it all, but I'd like to offer some advice. Mass rolling back several editors without any discussion prior is a very bad idea. In general, reverting any amount of edits from a clearly good faith editor should be discussed first to resolve the matter. In this case, I could have explained it to you quite easily. Administrative rollback should only be used for vandalism or self reverts. Furthermore, you would do well to understand what vandalism really is before you make accusations, as it is a serious claim. For one thing, vandalism is much more than a mistake, it is a bad faith attempt to compromise the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you would seriously block for vandalism for what you saw here, you should not be an administrator. And this wasn't even a mistake. It was an enforcement of non-negotiable Foundation copyright policy which many people have put many hours into, and which you reinserted many times for not understanding the issue before deciding on an inexplicable mass rollback. More than anything, your actions represent an astounding lack of civility and assumptions of good faith towards me and others, so I hope you can put more thought into things before acting in the future. We're all here to build an encyclopedia; respect isn't too much to ask for from our colleagues. :-) Dmcdevit·t 05:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Please excuse my overreaction. To me it looked like that the youtube links were removed automatically without any further check by Spartaz and I started panicking (alone against AWB...). Only after I had finished the Spartaz reverts I found out that there is actually the list of reviewed youtube links that is worked on by a group of people. Sorry again :-) Cacycle 05:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I had overread the section on WP:EL and from the discussion on WT:EL I got the impression that there is no consensus in favor of mass deletion. I apologize, Cacycle 05:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ummm Wow. Alrighty then... Have a nice day. ---J.S (t|c) 11:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Unless I misread WT:EL#Video and photo sharing sites, there is no consensus for mass-deletion of YT links. Targeted deletion (WP:C, WP:V, etc) is ok (and most YT links probably fall into these), but mass-deletion is not. The repeated comment on all the deletions of Rm links to "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" for video clips per WP:EL, which I don't find in WP:EL. If I misread it, please show me where. Thanks. jesup 16:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

(sorry Cacycle for responding here to a comment by Jesup. I have replied on his Talk). --Spartaz 17:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I find the edit summaries here and here to be slightly insulting. Please revert those changes, and any of the others you have missed. (I only reviewed 20 or so and you missed 10% of your own edits) ---J.S (t|c) 20:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. If I see any more, I'll either revert it myself or let you know. ---J.S (t|c) 21:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia_talk:External_links#YouTube2_-_another_arbitary_section_break_to_facilitate_discussion for my reply. Cacycle 13:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Left a message on the WikEd Talk Page

Hi, I left a message asking for some help on the WikEd talk page. Any assistance is appreciated.

Mck321 15:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

wikEd question + site-wide implimentation

Hey Cacycle. Great tool. I have a couple of questions and/or ideas.

Random Background: I just put together a wiki site using mediawiki. The site is going to have a lot of tables w/ a lot of information. Clicking the 'edit' code and seeing a bunch of wiki markup will be very daunting, especially when you get into the 100+ rows of data. So, onto my problem:

First, I'm not a java programmer. I flunked c++ oh so many years ago from lack of interest. Any insight you can give to this process would be very helpful: I'd like to have a very very simple wysiwyg editor that every user can use, even those who don't log-in, and I'd like it to be very intuitive. I'm going to be working with art dealers... some of whom can hardly operate their email applications, let alone fight w/ a wiki edit. My main need in a wysiwyg editor is the sloppiness of the table code (see my above comments about the 100+ rows of data w/in our wiki site). Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Galleryfront (talk • contribs) 01:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Actually it should be possible to make wikEd a real WYSIWYG editor using the existing framework. Possible means: you need a JavaScript programmer with quite some time. Unfortunately, I don't have that time. But if you find somebody I could tell him where to look in the code. Your project sounds commercial, so if you are willing to pay somebody that could make things easier. Alternatively, you might want to check for other wiki software that comes with WYSIWYG editors or other WYSIWYG extensions. Cacycle 02:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the speedy response. My project is a free service, so I'm hoping to keep my costs low. I'll look around for other options. Thanks again. fyi - doing google searches for wikEd and MediaWiki one finds a few others looking for the same tools. You're a popular one!

wiked

Valds12 15:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi , nice work ! I was looking for this ! IE still does not like it, but I picked some small fixes in the script.

     obj.html = obj.html.replace(/(<!--[^]*?-->)/g, '$1');

===> obj.html = obj.html.replace(/(<!--[^-]*?-->)/g, '$1');

at the end , comma after last element:

   '8201': 'thin space',       // \u2009
=> '8201': 'thin space'       // \u2009

Thanks, it's fixed now (version 0.9.12c) :-) Cacycle 02:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Ctrl-popup

Hi! You asked a while ago about disabling popups until you hit a key. I've implemented this in the dev version. You can change popups.js to popupsdev.js and set popupModifier='ctrl' in your monobook.js if you want to try it out. Lupin|talk|popups 19:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Cacycle 20:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Works great so far! One suggestion: could you make the popup appear when you click the modifier button while already hovering over the link. Cacycle 03:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

WikEd change log

You have just created the article WikEd change log. However, that does not belong in the article namespace. Because of that, I have nominated it for speedy deletion. I suggest that the article be moved to User:Cacycle/WikEd change log or any other target you wish, provided it does not end up in the article namespace. Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 23:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I will move it. Cacycle 23:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)