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Dan arndt (talk) 07:33, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Not a parameter

I noticed in several tennis infoboxes such as 1938 Australian Championships – Women's Singles you inserted "type = grand slam". That is not a parameter for that infobox and will never show up on screen. Please stop add a non-recognized term. Even if it were a recognized parameter, Grand Slam is always capitalized as it is done in other articles. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:11, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): Hi. I didn't know, sorry. I just observed that after adding this parameter link to the 'mixed' article appears, which is absent in the infobox otherwise. That's my intention. If you'll be so kind and tell me how to make this link visible, I'll be grateful.--Borucic (talk) 13:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): Besides - I didn't invent it. Just look into 1968 Australian Championships – Women's Singles infobox...--Borucic (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I know you didn't start it. That example had slipped in in 2018 and no one noticed it wasn't a parameter. The entire infobox structure would need to be changed to affect all articles. It was approved by Wikipedia Tennis Project years ago without that parameter so I'm not sure it should be changed without consultation of Tennis Project. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:12, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

New first names for old tennis players

I noticed you adding first names for tennis players who only have initials. The tennis tournaments themselves only have an initial and I found some news articles that contradict the first names you added. What are your authoritative sources for these first names? Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:29, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): Contemporary newspapers browsed on trove.nla.gov.au. When you search for e.g. W. M. Cleland, you can get results with state he is from or club he belongs to - you can use those to narrow your research. Initials stand for finite number of names and you can search for 'William Cleland' or 'Bill Cleland' and compare the results. Check these articles: [1], [2], [3], [4]. It's still better than your link to Scottish poet from XVII century :). But you may be right I was to quick to assume (although after research) that E. T. = 'Ted' Noske.--Borucic (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

We can't make assumptions. If you have a source from another event in the same time period that says William Cleland, that's cool but put the source in the article since the source for the event only shows WM Cleland. As long as others can corroborate it I'm good. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): So, article from December 1922 is not from the same time period? Article that reads "Hantke against Bill Cleland" and in detailed results section "W. M. Cleland beat Hantke" is not enough? Article that mentions "W. Cleland with Miss Murray" complemented with another article saying "Bill Cleland is partnering Peggy Murray again" is not good? How many W. M. "Bill" Clelands do you expect to emerge from West Australia within the months prior to 1924 Champs to be good enough to represent their state? But that's o.k. Still, I can't see any source you put in the article that says William Cleland (and there was "N. Cleland" before) and still, when clicking on his name, I'm directing to the page about some Scottish poet from XVII century. Cheers.--Borucic (talk) 22:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

My point is not specifically with Cleland, it's with some that contradicted your additions. When you make a change such as this change, those initials were from the actual draw. You added names that no one knows where you got them from. That can't happen, and I see editor Wolbo has reverted some of those additions. We can't read your mind...That's all I'm saying. Obviously draws considered him William M. Cleland per your sourcing (Bill would be too informal). If an article ever gets made of him I'm sure it will be William M Cleland. Bill is an obvious standard shortened nickname for William so it would not be put in parentheses (unless the article title was under Bill Cleland). I hope that helps. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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