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Marina beach, Chennai[edit]

Hi, thanks for showing interest in the article Marina beach. But I guess you miss to read the word "Urban" there. I know Marina beach is not second longest beach. It's seconf longest "urban" beach. See the aricle urban beach if you have any doubts or raise an issue on the talk page. Thanks again.--Challengethelimits (talk) 14:39, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

December 2012[edit]

Hello, I'm Boing! said Zebedee. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to List of Ezhavas because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! I have reverted your revert of Sitush's recent edit, because his action was in line with current consensus and yours was not. If you wish to change the consensus, please discuss it on the article talk page first - you cannot simply choose to revert consensus unilaterally -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please also be aware that there are discretionary sanctions applicable to articles related to castes or other social groups. The standard notification is as follows...

The Wikipedia community has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor who is active on any page about social groups, explicitly including caste associations and political parties, related to India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The discussion leading to the imposition of these sanctions can be read here.

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So please do not try to force your desired change against consensus, or you may be subject to those sanctions. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted you again at List of Ezhavas. Please could you review the policy at WP:CONSENSUS. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 09:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for editing against consensus, in defiance of the discretionary sanctions in force on articles relating to castes and other social groups. If you continue this line of editing when unblocked, you should expect your next block to be longer - or alternatively, you may find yourself banned from editing on this topic. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • My reading of WT:INB#Caste identification leads me to conclude that it applies to all caste classifications, not just varna (even if one editor in the discussion did not agree with that - the key point is that there are many people who disagree with the entire caste system, and people should not be denoted as being of any specific caste - varna or jati - unless they self-identify). Judging by a number of prior discussions I have seen since, that appears to be the understanding of other editors working in this area too. Finally, even if you were right, edit warring was not the way to proceed - what you should have done, as I had already informed you, was discuss the issue on the article talk page and *not* just reinsert the contested material - the onus is on the editor wanting to insert, or reinsert, contested material to seek consensus in support of it. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:54, 31 December 2012 (UTC) (correction - see underscore and strike -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC))[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

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Request reason:

Blocking someone for two reverts is anti democratic. Initially Sitush gave, BLPCAT as reason when BLPCAT doesn't require self-identification for caste. WT:INB#Caste identification, is not yet concluded and since there is no consensus yet, blocking me saying I edited against consensus is fucking abuse of admin privilleges by Boing! said Zebedee, which also prevents me from expressing my thoughts at WT:INB#Caste identification. Keep deleting content and block others who take time to contribute will just demotivate other users. You cannot take the support of a consensus which doesn't exist.

Accept reason:

After seeing the further explanation by Sitush, below, and appreciating that things initially might not have been explained to you as well as they could, I have decided to unblock you. Please do join in the discussion, but please do not re-add caste information unless a new consensus is reached in favour of it. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, Wikipedia is not a democracy. Wikipedia works on consensus, and the current consensus is to omit caste identification unless it can be shown that a living person self-identifies as a member of the caste (many do not, for good reasons), so if you want to add the contested material, then you will need to seek a consensus for it. The onus is on the person wanting to include contested material to provide consensus, not on those wanting it omitted - so until you have a consensus for including the material, which you do not currently have, then you must not add it. You were informed of the discretionary sanctions applicable to this topic area (which give me the power, as an admin, to act against you if I believe you are editing inappropriately, without any requirement for prior democratic discussion), yet you repeated the contested addition. Finally, edit warring is always wrong, even if you are right about the content. If you agree to stop edit warring to insert the contested material, and wait to see if you can get a consensus for its addition, then I will unblock you. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I must apologise for an error in my message above, which possibly made it misleading - I have struck the error and underscored the correction. (But the point remains that when disputed content is being discussed, especially when it relates to BLP, you should leave it out unless a consensus in favour of including it is reached) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I tnink you may be a little confused, Bobgali. I didn't mention BLPCAT but rather referred people to my standard advisory explanation at User:Sitush/Common#Castelists in this edit. Subsequently, I mentioned that in addition to the comments contained there, there is a long-standing consensus that we do not categorise people by caste (this applies to dead people, as well as the living). I accept that the two pieces of guidance may be confusing because they are not quite talking about the same thing and the first one allows some leeway that the second does not. It is the first one that the community has been relying on for the content of these lists because categories are themselves a special case.

It is a messy situation and the current discussion at Wikipedia_talk:INB#Caste_identification, which I also referred to later, may cause it to change. That discussion is not going to end any time soon, so I wouldn't worry about being unable to participate in it: this block will be a long time finished before that discussion is.. - Sitush (talk) 18:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 2013[edit]

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