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Some questions (Mostly new post policy that I need)

1. What is the policy for albums? Should they be deleted, redirected to author, or something else?

2. What is the policy for players on sports teams? The only reference is that they're listed as a member of that team on an official website or something similar.

3. What is the policy for schools outside the US?

4. What is the best possible way to find out if someone is notable?

Thanks. Bluefist (talk) 04:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

1. WP:NM
2. WP:ATH
3. WP:ORG
4. WP:BIO
Everything is at WP:Notability
[CharlieEchoTango] 05:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Hundred More Years

Why have you redirected the article? I know that it doesn't have real much content, but it's from a notable artist with lots of awards. There's room for expansion. The album is set to roll in about a month, and Francesca Battistelli had several songs chart on her last album. I think you should have at least explained why to the author of the article. If you're using automation to do new page patrol, maybe you could step back a little and think how it looks on the other side to the person who started the article. Just imagine if you had just spent at least 1/2 hour on something worthwhile just to find it vanished within a few minutes by someone who didn't even explain why. I know that new page patrol is fast paced, but it shouldn't be this fast. If you watch the admin nominations, people often get criticized for being too quick. Royalbroil 02:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I understand, but I was told that if an album is not independently noteworthy, it was to be redirected to the artists page. Sorry for the error. Bluefist (talk) 02:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
That's fine, verification is very important. I understood why you did it, although I thought it was marginal to redirect this article. If you read WP:MUSIC, which I'm sure that you've done, you'll see "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article." So you probably should have merged it. I probably would have found reliable source(s) and kept it. Or else you could have marked it for one of the deletions. But that wasn't my point. I was really asking you to explain to the author, User:Welsh-girl-Lowri, that this article had problems that needed to be solved. It's a good opportunity to teach this person about reliable sources and the need for verification. If she really wanted to see the content stay, then she needs to know that it will get deleted if you don't provide sources. If you've read the Signpost over the past year, you've seen that Wikipedia keeps getting criticized for deleting articles so fast. We are discouraging otherwise good people, who hopefully will turn into productive editors. Discouragement is a huge problem if we want to see Wikipedia keep growing. Royalbroil 02:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I took care of contacting her. Here's what I wrote [1]. Royalbroil 02:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for that, I'm not very good at putting words in to a clear and concise paragraph. Which is why I want to help Wikipedia by patrolling new pages, I don't have to do a lot of typing. Bluefist (talk) 02:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps the templates at WP:UTM would be helpful? They were written by the wordsmiths to be clear using simple language. All you have to do is cut and paste. {{Uw-refimprove}} would work in this case. Royalbroil 03:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll bookmark that list for future reference. Bluefist (talk) 03:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Pau-Pyrénées Whitewater Stadium

I saw this same article yesterday, I don't know what happened to it, but from this new article, I assume that it was deleted. Bluefist talk 19:34, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I changed the name of the article I am starting from Whitewater Stadium Pau-Pyrénées to Pau-Pyrénées Whitewater Stadium and redirected from the old title to the new. (Note: The old version was not deleted after discussion, as you assume.) The new title is a better English translation of the French name. Assuming this clears up the misunderstanding, I will remove the speedy delete tag. (Or post a hang on.) HowardMorland (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that clears it up very much, thanks for the clarification. Bluefist talk 00:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

caps

I'll bite. Why did you capitalize Stellar Engineering and Astronomical Engineering? —Tamfang (talk) 03:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks more appealing to my eye, you can change it back if you want. (Plus it's a proper noun, they are always capitalized.) Bluefist talk 04:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
What's proper about it? —Tamfang (talk) 05:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Huh, I looked at Electrical engineering and it seems that you don't capitalize engineering. I was always taught to capitalize everything but articles in a title. Bluefist talk 23:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia custom is to capitalize only the first word plus whatever would be capitalized within a normal sentence. That way we don't have to pipe every link. —Tamfang (talk) 04:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Church chairs for deletion

The article Church chairs is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church chairs until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Errr, I'm not the creator, I actually wanted to delete it, but I did not know what I should use. AfD, prod, speedy? Bluefist talk 00:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Time spent driving

Hi, I see here that you were involved with the deletion of Time Spent Driving. Therefore, I thought you might be interested in this article. I'm not sure how to proceed here. It may be legit but I figured someone with more experience should check it out. Would you mind...? Thanks. LordVetinari (talk) 14:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Ha, I'm pretty bad at this, but the reason I tagged the article for deletion was because it copied material directly from it's one reference. In addition to that, the band might not be notable (see WP:BAND) to have it's own Wikipedia article. I don't have time at the moment to prod it for being not notable, so use your best judgment. Bluefist talk 19:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. Former copyvio seems fine now. I've only added a notability tag. It seems too borderline at the moment for a prod. I'll give it a few months and see what happens. Anyway, thanks again. LordVetinari (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

would appreciate your help

Hi ! I am new to wiki so i hope I'm typing this in the right spot! I'm reaching out to other users for help. As I understand it, I need to track down an established wiki editor to help me rid the first article i've created ("Stone and Stone")of the ugly box that was posted on top "This article has multiple issues....".

I know exactly how these complaints came about. In my ignorance on how wiki works, I gave myself the same nickname as the subject I was writing on and then a whole drama ensued, as it was assumed that I was my subject and that I was writing an autobiography! In truth, I am a huge comedy fan and biographer and was dipping my toes for the first time in wikipedia waters!

Any help or solutions you could provide me when you get the chance would be greatly appreciated! This poor little article certainly doesn't deserve such an ugly heading box because of my wiki-ignorance! Thank you in advance for your time! Comedybiographer (talk) 10:38, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Meghan.lyn.fischer

Was there something wrong with Users:meghan.lyn.fischer/Sandbox? It seems odd that you would nominate it for deletion and then tell her to use the sandbox... Yaris678 (talk) 20:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

An error I realized the next day (Then I couldn't remember what it was called), I'm sorry. Plus it was ~2 months ago. Bluefist talk 01:55, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Daisy Turner

I used TW to AFD the the article, then left the page. It normally does everything, it must not have completed the process this once.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 22:40, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I've been fixing AfD links all day, Twinkle makes the tags first, then the AfD article. Resulting in a redlink; but i've never had your problem. Bluefist talk 22:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
It must be a one off. I had to re-install firefox again this morning, maybe it's playing up again.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 22:45, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Premature decision to scrap Fascism and anti-communism article

I just created this article minutes ago, I don't understand why it is suddenly being selected to be deleted. I will add more material in a short while.--R-41 (talk) 20:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, it's better off in the Fascism article. Why does this need a whole article? It's just stating that Fascism is anti-communist, which sounds like OR, although I can't prove that as I don't own those books. Perhaps we compromise and merge the article to Fascism? Bluefist talk 23:21, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
The Fascism article is already bloated as it is and admins are encouraging articles that go indepth on specific subjects involving fascism.--R-41 (talk) 23:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Maybe we should rename the article to something like "Fascism in relation to other forms of government", I don't know. The current article just doesn't seem right to me (Granted I'm relatively new, but on the other hand I'm learning alot about Wikipedia policies) Bluefist talk 01:19, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

BLPPROD of Mirko japan

Hi Bluefist,

I removed the BLPPROD tag you placed on Mirko japan, as the article clearly said he died in 1963, making it not a BLP and not eligible for deletion by BLPPROD. However, the article is obviously very poorly written and I'm thinking it might just be totally made up. If you think the article should still be deleted, feel free to place a regular PROD tag on it or nominate it for deletion at AFD. Calathan (talk) 17:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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Annexation of the British Empire

Why?? Megagamer51 (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Obvious hoax, Germany did NOT win World War 2. Britain did NOT get annexed. The more prudent question is, why did you make this obvious fake article? Bluefist talk 21:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Also, please see WP:HOAX. Bluefist talk 21:27, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

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Thank You!

Thanks for removing that vandalism from my page. Just noticed it, seems someone was angry I reverted his (or her) vandalism. Vishnu2011 (talk) 02:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

As soon as I removed yours, he moved to my page. (Sorry about editing so many times, I just got Huggle and am still learning it). Bluefist talk 02:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Ah unfortunate. Hopefully he gets taken care of. Huggle's a great tool, but I too have messed up few times with it, gotta be careful Vishnu2011 (talk) 02:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Amit Apollo Barman

Hello Bluefist. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Amit Apollo Barman to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm still learning Huggle, so I keep messing up on CSD's. I wasn't even mine to begin with, I just wanted to revert and warn the author who kept removing the CSD tag. Thanks anyway, I think prod is better. Bluefist talk 23:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually, it's more that re-reading the article, there is a claim of significance. However, I do not believe that it belongs in Wikipedia, hence the PROD. If that is contested, I will take it to AfD unless someone else beats me to it! PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Guess you'll have to AfD it, someone deleted the prod. Bluefist talk 23:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

userfied per request

I have userfied the full history at User:Bluefist/Space Station 13. You'll probably want to work from the September, 2005 versions since that seems to be the best ones. The stuff from June, 2006 was a later recreation and much worse. --Jayron32 04:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit war at Orc (Middle-earth)

Hi Bluefist. Since you've been involved in yesterday's incident with IP 68.205.7.47 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) at Orc (Middle-earth) I'd like to inform you that we're now discussing the matter on ANI. Regards, De728631 (talk) 09:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Helen Lucy Burke

The IP arbitrarily slapped a speedy tag on an article calling it patent nonsense. Then he complained it was unreferenced. Once it was referenced, he continued to revert it back to the unreferenced one. PTJoshua (talk) 19:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Well you should know better than to edit war then. Discuss on talk page or you will both be banned. Bluefist talk 19:57, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Hope it's OK if I drop a note here. Thanks for reporting to WP:AIV, but a more-appropriate messageboard would be this one; AIV is geared towards blatant vandalism, not edit-warring. All the same, thanks for bringing this to our attention! I'll check it out and see if the editors would like mediation. Cheers, m.o.p 20:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I suspected that would be a better area to report them, but I'm horrible filling out forms like that. If you wouldn't mind, I have 2 questions for you. Do you think it was right to revert to last revision before the edit war started? See the history. My second question is, how do you list diffs? Do I copy &action=historysubmit&diff=433934087&oldid=433933939 this part? Or &diff=433934087&oldid=433933939 this part? Or some other way I do not know? Bluefist talk 20:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Reverting, while admirable, is never the greatest idea when there's an edit war going on - most of the time, the other editors may get agitated even further. Rather, wait for an administrator to come and step in - we generally don't take too long if somebody notifies us.
As for listing diffs, this page can help you out in that regard.
Cheers, and thanks again! :) m.o.p 20:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Please don't reinstate comments on another user's talk page - as per established convention, a user's talk page is theirs to use how they will (barring making personal attacks on others), and that includes deleting what they'd like to. After all, if they delete it, it's only proof they've read it. Your good will is appreciated, but probably not the best idea in this case. Thanks, though! m.o.p 21:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, thanks for alerting me! You're definitely helpful. :) m.o.p 21:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm not very good at dispute resolving, I'm better at blatant vandalism. I'm going to stop dealing with the 2 users and go get something to eat, I hope you will deal with this in a better way than I did. Bluefist talk 21:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I've down dispute resolution for a few years, so hopefully I'll be able to help everyone work something out. Thanks for your help, though - don't write yourself off yet! Cheers, m.o.p 21:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

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I see there's somebody else patrolling new editor's contributions...  ;) 50.76.39.189 (talk) 06:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes and someone is mad (if you check my talk page history). Your contributions are excellent and I urge you to make an account, thanks for helping! Bluefist talk 06:52, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
If you're making them mad then they're doing something wrong and you're doing something right. 50.76.39.189 (talk) 06:57, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Still looking for the magic words to have vandals become featured article contributors :o( Jim1138 (talk) 07:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

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Ms Colby contacted me and I edited the article to where she was comfortable with the personal details in it. Bwmoll3 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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Liberal Parties of the United States

Hi. I changed from Liberal parties in the United States to Modern American liberal parties, that's why, Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adn1990 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi @Adn1990: Here at Wikipedia we don't blank pages to delete them. If you feel them unnecessary please list them for deletion at WP:CFD. Thanks. Bluefist talk 20:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Stephen Bleecker Luce entry

Hmmmm. My overarching criterion for encyclopedia entries is accuracy rather than "constructiveness" (whatever that might actually mean). The fact of the matter is that the US Naval Academy is in Annapolis, MD, NOT Newport, RI, and that Luce retired from the Navy almost 10 years prior to the Spanish American War. He may have received the campaign medal issued for that conflict, but if so your readers deserve to know on what grounds he did so. I don't expect you to restore my text, but you owe it to readers to correct the error in the existing entry re: his Civil War service, and clarify WHY he received the Spanish War medal, if indeed he did. Yours cordially, John Beeler — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.173.137.137 (talk) 03:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

@99.173.137.137: Hi John, I removed your content because you added comments that should have been addressed on the talk page, not in the middle of the article where everyone looking at the article can see it. I do not know anything about this subject, I just watch current edits and see if they're vandalism or unhelpful. You are free to add correct information with citations and reliable sources. Or continue with what you put in the article at the talk page, which is where content should be discussed. Bluefist talk 02:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

For the page about Banished, you added a cover art picture, for which you wrote to have gotten permission from Hodorowicz through an e-mail. Do you have any idea if this permission also applies for other languages? I noticed that the other languages do not have this picture, so it would be useful to add it there as well and I would also like to use it for the Dutch page I am writing right now. FeyBart (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

@FeyBart: All he said was "Looks good, feel free to upload it". I think he's ok with it on any language as long as it's still on Wikipedia. Bluefist talk 18:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for notifying me! FeyBart (talk) 18:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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In response to your question and an explanation

Hey! Thanks for your contributions and questions. It's nice to see someone new! Anyway, the reason that I have "annexation" listed first is because from all the sources I've seen, both pro-Russian and pro-Other, it is stated as "annexation", with a vast minority of the world calling it "accession". My thoughts for the article were to reflect the global opinion (for if every side is covered, we can call it "neutral"). From what I can tell, about 80% of the world calls the process an "annexation" (in one of my sources for the title [5], Russia even tells the United States to "...accept the annexation...") with the other 20% calling it "accession". I've also posted this information on User:Moscow Connection's page (he is the strongest resistance) to inform him of this. The title of the article is actually supposed to say annexation, but due to a very tough non-consensus (and I personally think biased) fight from certain people (including M.C.), this was prevented from happening [yet]. Does this clarify things? :D მაLiphradicusEpicusთე

@LiphradicusEpicus: He could claim the same thing if he was in your position. Regardless, I think we need some sort of high level decision about this. Bluefist talk 21:39, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Well now the page is titled "Incorporation of" (this is a title both he and I agreed we would be content with); this seems reasonable, right? :) მაLiphradicusEpicusთე
@LiphradicusEpicus: I changed the opening paragraph to reflect this. Hopefully @Moscow Connection: and other opponents will find this acceptable. Bluefist talk 21:45, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Wow, we're seeing eye-to-eye. I edited the text to be a bit more informative of who calls the process what, check it out! Anyway, thanks so much for your contributions to the page and helping me! I'm off to work now. haha. მაLiphradicusEpicusთე

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86-DOS

Hello Bluefist. Wikipedia is reality detached and its rules are beyond retarded. This is not personal in any way. I have provided the facts on 86-DOS talk page to support my argument, which can't be countered by anything rational - although I invite to do it. If you consider it not worth of wikipedia, ignore it, I don't care in slightest about this project in its current state. Best. 89.1.182.19 (talk) 17:41, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

You should give a reliable source and your information will gladly be included in Wikipedia. Bluefist talk 17:43, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
You've been beating me to some reverts today! ;-) I just wanted to thank you for your time and dedication toward patrolling recent changes and the removal of vandalism. It's a thankless job that's not fit for everybody, but looking at your contributions, it looks like you're handing it well. Keep up the great work, and please know that your time spent here is greatly appreciated. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey, thanks :) Bluefist talk 16:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Regarding a brigading

Regarding the revert you posted here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity&action=history

I believe this is where the brigading is happening from. https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xm41to/hasans_community_changing_definitions_for_optics/

Feel free to remove this afterwards Mrdigan (talk) 18:31, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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