User talk:Basilcat1

Hi Jim

Thanks for that - will re look at the whole thing and resubmit- I have the members of the research team now looking into sources for confirmations of where it came from for verification Basilcat1 (talk) 12:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of St Michaels Church Elmwood Road Chiswick London[edit]

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A tag has been placed on St Michaels Church Elmwood Road Chiswick London, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Deletion[edit]

Hi, thanks for message. The article actually has a number of issues.

it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that this church meets the notability guidelines. The article looks like unsourced original research, which we cannot accept.
it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: St Michael’s is a broad friendly church with a lively vicar and a modern outlook, driven by traditional Christian values. We seek to be a spiritual haven from the everyday pressures of life in a beautiful church building... He was a well-known stained glass designer and there are outstanding examples of his work... the original hall served us for 90 years... It has become a great asset and an integral part of parish life... St Michael’s is still the friendly local church it has always been... We have lots of activities for children and young people... We also host a night shelter for homeless men during the coldest months of the year... The Vicar of Chiswick in 1906 was right to recommend the establishment of a new parish to serve the Grove Park community!
You appear to have an obvious conflict of interest when it comes to editing articles about this subject.If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that your church is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.
Some of the text is copied from here. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
Although it's not a reason for deletion, you seem to have written the article with complete disregard for Wikipedia's (or any other) style or formatting, e.g. writing the whole article in bold, not punctuating the title etc. If you rewrite, I suggest that you look at St Nicholas, Blakeney. You won't need that level of detail (it's a featured article), but it should give you an idea of style, how to do headings, and similar.

I hope this helps Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:55, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The fact that the text was written by someone else only moves the referencing/original research issue back one step. Sources must have been used by the member of your congregation, and it's those we need, not the identity of the person concerned
If the text has been published elsewhere, in print or on line, under anything other than an explicitly public domain licence, it will be treated as a copyright violation (there are bots that check the web sites). I repeat, there are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
You don't need to use the reference templates that occur in the St Nicholas article, just <ref>[url description]</ref> with a {{reflist}} at the end to generate the list will do.
I will shortly restore the article here for you to work on out of the line of fire

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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