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Ok I see. So if I add the book and the subsequent page numbers/chapter in the book will it be enough to keep my edit? These pages in the book show vast differences when comparing to the claims which I contended.

Kind regard

That is not just up to me. I would suggest though first presenting your view on the Talk:The Silmarillion talk page and trying to reach a Consensus for the changes you are trying to make. P.S. Please sign your comments and reply below comments from other users --Count Count (talk) 10:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Grettings Count Count,

Thank you for the notification I understand why it may seem like original research, but let me show you where the original statements are either partially or wholly inaccurate and you can decide whether my edit stays or not;

1. In 'Influences' chapter the claim that he was influenced by medieval Christian cosmology is made, i.e. the reference to the harmony of the spheres. What is overlooked here is the Harmony of spheres is a concept considerably older than its medieval Christian adaptation, as it is a concept dating back to Greco-roman societies (Classical age) originating in the 6th century before Christ.

2. An incorrect connection is made through this statement; 'The Silmarillion tells of the creation and fall of the Elves, as Genesis tells of the creation and fall of Man.' Why this is inaccurate is because of major differences in the fall of Men and the fall of elves.

Similarly, the fall of the Noldor is caused by Fëanor being tricked by Melkor. What is often overlooked is that the elves were not of one kingdom at the time of the fall of the Noldor and Fëanor can therefore not be compared to Adam and Eve in the fall of men. Furthermore the punishment of the Noldor only affects the Noldor and is neither universal nor permanent as is understood when many of the Noldor, under the banner of Fingolfin and Finarfin, abandon Fëanor and are allowed back into Valinor. This can even further be distanced from Abrahamic influence as the Noldor are not even punished at leaving Valnior but they are leaving under free will and that the reason for their "punishment" is because of the kinslaying of the Teleri Elves. Compared to the fall of man which subsequently affects the whole of mankind and the punishment is universal and permanent.

Therefore I am sure that my addition of text was not original research but factual disambiguation of barely contented ideas; This is not wholly concluded as being influenced by Abrahamic dogma and should be reviewed. The following statements are under scrutiny neither an obvious nor plausible source of influence

You don't need to argue your case to me. I reverted your edit, because no source was supplied. Everything added to Wikipedia must be sourced. So you just need to find reliable sources supporting your claim and cite those sources in your addition. Your own ideas, research, arguments, etc. are not a valid source however relevant or correct they may be, please read WP:NOR. --Count Count (talk) 09:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

June 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to The Silmarillion, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Count Count (talk) 09:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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