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Additional citations needed to create an article about the last US ground commander to depart the Vietnam War[edit]

Can anyone please help me find info about an obituary in a local newspaper at Cape Cod? Regarding the following obituary of James Hamilton Kean, I would like to know:

  • Name of the newspaper and date of publishing
  • If possible, also the name of the person that wrote the obituary.

(The obituary says about James Hamilton Kean (a.k.a. Jim Kean and James H. Kean) that he "in command of the last Marines to leave the rooftop during the evacuation of the embassy on April 30, 1975. He personally supervised the evacuation of approximate 1000 Americans and several thousand Vietnamese in advance of approaching North Vietnamese force".)

Other sources say,[1][2][3] (?—2008[4]) the last US ground commander during the Vietnam War; he was the commander of the the last group of (ten other) US soldiers evacuated from the Vietnam War.[Note 1]

  1. ^ "He had requested to come in to see if he could help us with anything", according to Juan Valdez (senior non-com stationed at the US embassy in Saigon in April 1975, and the last US soldier to leave Vietnam during the Vietnam War). Kean's request was approved and he arrived in Vietnam (from his duties in Hong Kong) on 17 April 1975, after the evacuation of the American Embassy in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. "The following obituary appeared in a local Cape Cod paper: James Hamilton Kean, 66, died suddenly on May 5, 2008. Mr. Kean was a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the Marine Corps, who participated in the evacuation of Saigon at the end of the Vietnam War", according to "president's newsletter" (by Dave Mellon) on website "38th OCC/BC 3-66 USMC Alumni, Inc. Furthermore, "He joined the Marine Corps in 1961 and served two tours of duty in Vietnam. His awards include two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts. - He was the Commanding Officer of Charlie Company, Marine Security Guard Battalion and Ground Support Force Commander, United States Embassy Compound in Saigon. He was in command of the last Marines to leave the rooftop during the evacuation of the embassy on April 30, 1975. He personally supervised the evacuation of approximate 1000 Americans and several thousand Vietnamese in advance of approaching North Vietnamese force".
  1. ^ Article that was in Leatherneck Magazine, September 1975
  2. ^ Putting Out the Fire: Jim Kean's Vietnam
  3. ^ Inside People, July 11, 1994 Vol. 42 No. 2
  4. ^ Mellon, Dave. "President's newsletter November 2008". 38th OCC/BC 3-66 USMC Alumni, Inc. 38th OCC/BC 3-66 USMC Alumni, Inc. Retrieved 2015-04-12.

--20yardsaway (talk) 14:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

embassy[edit]

Not sure why you are asking me, but as long as you have reliable third party sources you should be ok. Same with a Kean article, provided you can find enough verifiable info on him, you should be good to go.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 21:34, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kean[edit]

Technically, by the constraints of the encyclopedia, they are right. You may want to see if Kean meets notability guidelines and start an article on him, first. I don't edit here as often as usual (I'm busy with paid writing jobs) but I can help you a little bit.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 19:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That "they are right" is not a certainty. I am happy to hear that you have paid writing gigs, and that you nevertheless might be willing to offer your two cents regarding Kean—arguably the most notable Marine Security Guard, and possible the only one who became notable for reasons other than the circumstances of death OTJ. --20yardsaway (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Miscellaneous posts
Please stop adding names that do not have corresponding article. Feel free to create an article about Kean, but bear in mind that it's notability will likely be challenged and you will have to defend it at AfD. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. --20yardsaway (talk) 17:03, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Adding the "Notable events involving MSGs on duty" was a good idea too.  :) I hope that is a reasonable compromise for you. It works for me. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:22, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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