User:TenPoundHammer/Archive 7

User:TheListUpdater/The Shops at Ithaca Mall

What do you want done here, exactly? A history merge to The Shops at Ithaca Mall, I assume, but it's a bit unclear from the tag you used. --W.marsh 02:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and did a history merge, but at any rate the redirect is gone now. --W.marsh 02:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Jason Handman

Yes please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Famartin (talk • contribs) 22:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism / Good Time (album)

Hi. Thanks for reverting that user page vandalism, evidently he didn't enjoy the fact that I warned him for offensive comments/trolling on Talk:Muhammad! Also, as per your message regarding the AfD, I have struck out my vote so that you can close the discussion now; I agree that the article in its improved state isn't really deletion-worthy. Lankiveil ^{(complaints | disco)} 11:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC).

IP listings

Don't you know that listing your IP Adresses on the web (in this case Wikipedia) is bad. Because what if someone trys to hack your computer, and send infectious viruses, trojans, and many other stuff. Do you really wan't that to happen?. Mythdon (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Question

Sorry for asking, but may I ask what a snowball delete is? Thanks! Gammonwave (talk) 02:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 24 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Baker & Myers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 06:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

AFDs

I've seen you around a lot on AFD, just wanted to comment that I like your straightforward, sensible reasoning on AFDs, Good work (overall) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 23:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Songs pages

Hey. I just got your message on songs pages, and I'm awfully sorry. I have been using Google to find references to these songs, but in news, I have to be a subscriber, and I don't have that kind of money. I do not even own a credit card. I don't create pages for songs until they have reached the Top 40, and I will try to provide plenty of links and references to the song from now on. --Martin4647 (talk) 01:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

AFD

I need help on putting an AFD nomination up for a second time. It's B.A.D (thas the band name) It was listed a year ago and was not deleted, but it has not been improved so it needs to be deleted.Metal Head (talk) 02:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You could list for AFD, but I can't see it being deleted. B.A.D are notable per WP:MUSIC, and voters will have easy access to the last discussion. You would only get struck down for AFD'ing an article that needs improvement... my $00.02 -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• I plan on attacking the sources it's affiliated with too. I'll put it on AFD, but I honestly think that it's a waste of space if no one will update it.Metal Head (talk) 02:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

hmmm, I suppose if you could discredit the sources it could be done... If they were of a "trivial" nature, or otherwise unadmissible? -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• • • Well, I think I just gave enough discrediting information. (If I just spelled discrediting wrong, I do that a lot) Take a look at the AfD article.Metal Head (talk) 03:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I just wanted to stop by to refer you to the AfD. Pandacomics (talk) 05:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle

I don't know if you use Twinkle, but I don't think that it is working. What do you suggest?Metal Head (talk) 02:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Nevermind, I got it. I forgot to refresh my browser. (I had to take twinkle off and re-install it)Metal Head (talk) 02:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Templates

If you want templates made for bands, tell me about them on my talk page. I am opening up requests for this. I need stuff to do during the day. Metal Head (talk) 03:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Also, I have been nominated for adminship. I was wondering if you could put a good word in for me. :) Undeath (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Well that was sort of a kick in the nuts. lol. Undeath (talk) 14:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks for putting up the albums in the AfD for I Voted For Kodos. Much obliged! :) Jmlk17 22:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible AfDs

If you are looking for some good candidates to list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs then you might want to look through the list at User:Alai/orphanalbum. Many of the articles have orphan tags because the artist has been deleted (not notable) or was never created in the first place.--Fisherjs (talk) 10:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Michelle Leonard

Hi. You recently argued for the deletion of Michelle Leonard, initially on the grounds of being a hoax and then on the grounds that she is not notable. Since then, the page has been considerably re-written. She is demonstrably not a hoax and, I believe, there is now ample evidence of notability, so I thought you might want to re-consider your position in the deletion discussion. Bondegezou (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Jypsi

Nice Jypsi page indeed.

Mistake on page. Jypsi has never lived in Moline Illinois. Woodbine Illinois (NW corner of state) is their hometown.

Thanks much, Family —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crr54 (talk • contribs)

Ahmed El Esseily

Ah dude! Sorry to bother you, but i'm having problems nominating this second time round, could you fixitup? i'll have a look at how you did it then do it myself next time, sorry =( article is Ahmed El Esseily, let me know if you can't do it and ill try to find someone else to help. thanks dude -- 22:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks dude, I might just do that =) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 22:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edgar's fall (2nd nomination)

Thanks for cleaning up after me, I was in a tizzy trying to get that nomination right, and I still don't think I've got it right. Corvus cornix_talk 22:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Charted from unsolicited airplay

Can you look up some singles for LeAnn Rimes? I think some of singles are in very low positions like "Can't Fight the Moonlight". The song only charted on country chart at #61, but it did really good at Hot 100. By the way, how can you tell that a charted song is a single or not?--Langdon (talk) 05:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)i7114080

A Social Path

I thought I could speedy-tag even when an article was in AfD but I wasn't totally sure, so I just took the easy way out (for once). :-). Thanks for the confirmation. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Invisible tire valves

I hadn't noticed that it was the creator's only contribution, whoops. The reason I didn't tag it for speedy is a) the length of time it had been around and b) that someone had apparently looked at it in April 07 and thought the issue was unclear notability, not hoax so I wasn't sure what to do. I think it's shockingly clear what letter of the alphabet I'm working on since I'm dominating Afd tonight. Eek! Travellingcari (talk) 04:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Redfleckspic.jpg

Hello, Sorry about that G1 on the image. I was using twinkle and it gave the option to G1 the image. I was quite surprised myself. UzEE!! 02:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

My mistake. Twinkle does that from time to time, and I should learn to double check it. RogueNinja_talk 01:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Toon-Ryu

For some reason, Twinkle exploded on me again, yielding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/T%25u014Don-ry%25u016B —Preceding unsigned comment added by RogueNinja (talk • contribs) 02:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Transwiking Neopets plots?

I saw your comment that you were a Neopets user - I suggested to "transwiki" Neopets plots at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neopets plots (2nd nomination) (if "transwiki" is the right term for non-Wikimedia wikis). But since I haven't been following Neopets wikis or such very much, would you know of a good place to transwiki to? I just suggested the Neopets Wikia on a quick Google search, but there's probably some place better. Thanks! —AySz88\^-^ 05:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

In response above, probably propose it to Pinkpt's Neodex? I'm sure the long, detailed articles that have been proposed for deletion here (Neopian Times, Faeries, Neopia, etc.) would be great over there.

http://www.pinkpt.com/neodex/index.php/Main_Page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle192837 (talk • contribs) 05:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Albert Hammond, Jr.'s second album

Hey I saw your comment for deletion. You say it has no "verifiable info" but all the tracks listed are songs confirmed by Albert himself in magazines and articles. I don't see how that's not verifiable. Even though the album is titleless, there are many articles like this all along wikipedia. I'm not saying this is right, but since there is nothing saying articles about upcoming albums without titles are banned, this should be a problem. Plus, ALbert has finished the album, and the title is sure to come soon. Then, the album page'll just be redirected and everyone will be happy again. So I implore you to keep the page. 23:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Serio

Since you voted in the AFD, and I figured you could use a good laugh, you might take a peek at the Talk:Serio page. You might be named in the lawsuit for voting delete, after all :) PHARMBOY (TALK) 23:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

"Crediting source"

Hi TenPoundHammer! Thanks for "clarifying" that I was the one transcluding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glomp (fifth nomination)... but I was deliberately leaving my name off it. I'm the poor chump who clears this backlog, nudging new editors in the right direction, solving coding snarl-ups and generally putting things right where I can. Wikipedia being a place where no good deed goes unpunished, when I do that and clearly mark I'm doing it, I still get credited with the deletion rationale and I still get all of the flack and none of the glory. So now I plan to not say anything. With a little shake of WP:AGF over my actions, this may make sense. And this is why I'm reverting you. ➔ REDVEЯS has changed his plea to guilty 08:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Song Redirects

Hit songs should be standalone articles, because they have sometimes been recorded by multiple artists. Redirects to one particular artist is not appropriate. Wiki lookups for song information/details are not informative if redirect effectively removes the song details and sends lookups to an artist.Wikibones (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Song Redirects (the bigger picture)

Why redirect a song to an artist or an album when songs have a life of their own often recorded by multiple artists? By example, look at the article on Burt Bacharach and several of his songs. Specifically you might look at "Baby It's You". The song is an article itself. By redirecting the song, you basically delete ALL other information about the song. The life of a song certainly has more dimensions than one recording. They are placed in films, used in TV shows, recorded by multiple artists, and win awards in their own right. A song like "If I Was A Drinkin' Man" has all the information related to the song in it's own article includine information on the songwriters, when it charted, the Awards it has won, etc. Once you redirect it to ONE particular album, or artist like Neal McCoy, it diminishes the song as an article,a nd wipes out all the researchable details. You asked me "What do you want me to do...", and I think the best answer is "nothing", because the song article already links to Neal McCoy without a redirect that wipes the song out. A researcher looking for information on the song "If I Was a Drinkin' Man" doesn't necessarily want to be redirected to Neal McCoy.Wikibones (talk) 12:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Song Redirects (more thought)

I think what has come to light here is that we have "If I Was a Drinkin' Man" (the song) and "If I Was a Drinkin' Man" (the Neal McCoy recording). The song should not be redirected to Neal McCoy, but the recording should be. In the interest of preserving for researchers the songwriter and award information on the song, the song should be a standalone article.Wikibones (talk) 12:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Carrie Underwood discography

It is required with dashes to indicate that the song was released to that particular music chart but did not chart. Please don't revert it again. σмgнgσмg^(talk) 23:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD

I tacked it to an existing debate? Whoops. Sorry about that; I'll remember to preview it in the future. Thanks for letting me know. RedZion^X 01:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Afd barnstar

I guess I otter thank you for the award. (Ummm...it's too late to take it back, right?) Clarityfiend (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Pyong

Why did you mark Pyong for speedy deletion? It was an article about a very famous emoticon, one of which many people know about and it would be good to have a source to explain it's origin and creation. It was still in the process of being written and you delete it.

I was still in the process of adding reliable sources when you deleted it, I tried to update them and the page was already gone, I created the page like 5 minutes ago and then it was gone, you should have given me time...

thanks for completing afd

i must have been caught out by the conflict thing when trying to list Intellectual dishonesty. Thanks for fixing it. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 21:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Pyong

Yes, but if you keep requesting it be deleted, how can other people add their sources to the site and information they know that can make it notable. I may not know everything, but other people do, like I said. How will they be able to add it to a non-existent page? The Blogs come from respected people, and the single source that linked a forum was to prove the point that it was common. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomoya-kun (talk • contribs) 22:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Five pillars state: "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written for the benefit of its readers." This does not look like you are trying to benefit the readers. That is all I wanted to do, I did not want a big fight over something this simple.

"perfection is not required." It is not perfect now, but if you give it time. That would be why I labeled the article with an under construction sign which also states that you should give the article a few days before it is requested for deletion. Not 5 minutes.

Tomoya-kun (talk) 22:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The reason I added it to this site is because it took me over 3 months to find the source of Pyong. Plenty of people used it. But not one could tell me where they found it because the creator is barley ever citied. This is why I created the page, so people do not need to search for months something can I can bring to their attention with a simple search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomoya-kun (talk • contribs) 22:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed my error- thanks!

I was pretty sure I'd screwed something up, but I wasn't sure where. Thanks for cleaning it up. BowChickaNeowNeow (talk) 19:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

An admirer of your work on AfD

Hi TenPoundHammer, I just wanted to write a note to introduce myself and say hello, I've seen your tag quite a bit on AfD and your comments always seem sane and thoughtful. Also I like your name. At any rate, I've been perusing AfD lately because I recently created a wiki, Wikipopuli, as a place to host biographical articles that do not impose a notability requirement. I'd noticed that quite a few people put up bios on Wikipedia only to have them taken down, so obviously it seemed that there might be a need for this sort of thing. (I understand why Wikipedia cannot allow WP:BIO-violating articles, and whether Wikipopuli will be able to survive in the face of potential problems remains to be seen). What I'm doing right now is putting notes on user talk pages of people who have created articles that are under deletion review for WP:BIO, letting them know that there's an alternative home for their material in case it gets booted. I've written to some of the other editors who are active in AfD, telling them about the site and inviting their input -- I want to be sure I'm seen as offering people something useful, and not spamming them. I'd certainly welcome your input as well. Thanks, TheYellowCabin (talk) 02:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Geneva Red Wings

Hi there! I noticed you voted delete on this article but a Google news search shows that they are fairly notable [1] unless I'm missing something this search is referring to the same team. Just thought I'd let you know anyways cheerio, Polly (Parrot) 19:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Response to recent AfD

Hey there, TPH. I see you closed this AfD. Just as a notification, it was closed before I even got around to adding it. I used Twinkle, just bad timing, I guess. Soxred93 | talk count bot 02:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. By the way, I think you know me, if you don't remember (Think GarageGames forums).

Mexican Hot 100

Thanks for that! I was planning a comprehensive search once the AfD was closed, but I think it's pretty obviously fake, so much gratitude to you for cleaning some up already! --Stormie (talk) 04:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Brian Sterner

Dude. Go away and leave the Brian Sterner entry alone. You seem to be determined to destroy this entry as quickly as possible.

Go outside. Go for a walk. Go read a book. Go do something else, and leave the entry alone. Let other people visit and expand the entry.

God, you wannabe administrators are so goddamn annoying.--Douglasfgrego (talk) 21:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for helping protect the Deal or No Deal article.

I noticed in the past twelve hours, a user by the name of Grounded into a double play has tried to upload a questionable image on this article. Not only that, but I found out that this image has also been uploaded on the Akbank article as well. This image does not contribute positively to the Deal or No Deal article, perhaps does the opposite. And after repeated attempts to undo this particular revision from this particlar user, it's nice to know that there is somebody on my side to make sure this article remains unbias and protected from this obnoxious user, who I see has other violations to his record on here. Again, thanks you for your help, and keep up to the great work. S3884h (talk) 22:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Detroit Institute of Technology

Are you going to change your vote since it was found to be true?

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Detroit Institute of Technology —Preceding unsigned comment added by SportsMasterESPN (talk • contribs) 00:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Midlands Bus Route 302

I thought it was non-notable, so AfD'd it, but later saw it is notable. So you can tag it. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

What's My Line?

I noted that you removed a large block of material under the heading Trivia with the edit summary stating kill unsourced trivia per WP:TRIVIA. While I'm fundamentally opposed to trivia sections, and discourage it's addition, WP:TRIVIA does not advocate simply removing such a section wholesale and in fact says "Trivia sections should not be categorically removed." The guideline advocates working such material into the article as much as possible, which is also what WP:HTRIV#Practical steps outlines, with further suggestions including tagging the section in question. I am the one who added the citations needed tags to the article, mostly because many of the points in that section are notable to the history of the program, including Emmy Award wins. I have returned the material to the article with a tag for trivia. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Jypsi

Thanks for the response. Sory for the late reply.

Yes, I saw that issue that mentioned Moline. Here is a third party source that is not really any better then the one you listed but is more accurate. http://bebo.com/jypsi It lists Galena as hometown for the group. Galena is a larger more identifiable town nearer Woodbine. Woodbine is an extremely small one horse town that can be driven through in 30 seconds. Odds are if you ran into a family member on the street, they would say Galena as people may be be to identify with it. They would never say Moline.

I will look for a source that lists Woodbine.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crr54 (talk • contribs)

Nomination fixed

*Comment Nomination fixed per comment on nom's talk page.

Thank you for your help. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 23:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Jypsi

Here, from the same as your original source only on their web site...not magazine. Gone Country has an interview. In red, read the questions. You will see that even Gone Country acknowledges "Galena"

http://www.gonecountrymagazine.com/jypsi

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crr54 (talk • contribs)

Trap Starz Clik

Thanks for finding the references. Vote changed accordingly. // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 22:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

While we're at it, I posted two large AFD's: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rydah J. Klyde and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AP.9. Would you mind having a look please? They're related to last week's Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Ca$h. Thanks! // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 22:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you very much :-). I've participated in many AfD discussions but I have'nt started new ones. That's the reason. -Ravichandar 03:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Out of Control Raging Fire=

Apology accepted ...

I have an even better solution...

Just put everything back the way it was before you stirred this all up and just drop it...

Regards...

Bwmoll3 (talk) 15:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Whatever.. since you are intent on doing something, when really doing nothing and leaving things alone is something you insist on not doing.......

Bwmoll3 (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Just a tip for future reference. People don't contribute here just to get pissed off.. and you have a tendency to do that to people that I've noticed by reading these comments to do so.. Just as you've pissed me off by turning a favor I did for a friend into a hassle.... If you notice I don't write a lot about music.. I wrote those pages for my friend to make her smile.. and now I just have to wonder if it was worth all the shit you have made me go through....

I also read that you are very young, and immature, as I was when I was 20.. I've learned a lesson you might also want to consider. Don't upset people unless there is a VERY good reaon to do so..

Regards and have a nice day...

Bwmoll3 (talk) 16:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Does "backlink" = Deletion?

Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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What you are doing is essentially deleting the pages

Just leave the pages alone.....

Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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You asked to "compromise".... sonny ,learn the meaning of that word.

LEAVE THEM ALONE...

Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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So apparantly your words mean nothing.

You are an arrogant little snit....... Since I wrote the pages, I'm just going to delete them all...

~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwmoll3 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Song page blankings.

Okay, I will advise him against such a course of action. SGGH ^speak! 17:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate how you feel you are in the right, but I don't want to wade in strongly without concensus, there are only 3 "votes" (for lack of a better word) on that AfD. Have you tried third party, Admins noticeboard etc? You would get more opinions. I know it sounds like I'm passing the buck, but that's not my intention! SGGH ^speak! 17:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Related to above two posts

Hey there TPH. I've closed the debates (as you're likely aware already) as redirects. I did not protect the titles, but gave User:Bwmoll3 fair warning about undoing what I did as potentially disruptive now that the debate is closed. He replied here that he considers the matter resolved and has apologied for his incivility on Seicer's talkpage. He asks that you try to do the same, specifically he has a problem with "pseudo-profanity" like Freakin' I would ask that you try to refrain from allcapping and adding freaking, et al to your posts where it is obvious that another editor is acting in a protective manner like the AfD. In other words, get your freaking otters of the keyboard. (I can use pseudo-profanity because I know my audience:) My recommendation? Find a new area of the playground to play in, stay away from Bwmoll3. Cheers. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:27, 22 February 2008 (UTC

Song Redirects/Article Deletion Issue

Your continual attempts to redirect songs to specific artists or specific albums is creating an article deletion issue. I (and others) have noticed that your RfA application rejections are riddled with such "deletion issues" and though I hope it doesn't come to this, I will vigorously challenge your actions as they relate to song articles, and will bring in the support of professional songwriter associations and performing rights groups to have your song article deletions reversed. You need to understand that redirects on songs are the same as deleting the article. The obsession you have with this is wiping out song articles that often have a one-to-many relationship with artists, labels, songwriters, awards, and other valuable information to researchers, information that is lost with redirects.Wikibones (talk) 20:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Song Redirects

Refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs. Wikibones (talk) 20:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)