User:Pdebee/Project page/Andy Irvine

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Current Project - Improve the article on Andy Irvine (musician)[edit]

Pdebee is currently working on the WP article about Andy Irvine.


On 22 July 2013, I started updating the article on Andy Irvine (musician) and intended to complete the task within a few weeks. However, I soon identified the need also to create WP articles for many of his recordings. When it's all done, I'd like to aim for GA status and, if granted, then add a final 'end of job' update in the present section at my user page.

Project log[edit]

  • Structure the article: add sections on Woody Guthrie influences and Commitment to social justice, and organize the Music Career section by decade, with sub-sections for each major project. ( Done)
  • Expand all sections: provide factual details corroborated by reference citations from reliable, third party sources. To this end, I have used mainly Leagues O'Toole's The Humours of Planxty, Colin Irwin's In Search of the Craíc and my collection of Frets and Folk Roots magazines with articles on Irvine's various projects over the decades. ( Done)
    I have also relied on Irvine's official website for 18 (14.63%) of the current 123 citations (116 of which I added since 22 July 2013), when no other source was available. [20 November, 2014 (UTC).] ( Done)
  • Reduce, to the strictest minimum, the number of quotations I initially added and apply, throughout the article, the WP standard of boxing all quotations > 40 words. ( Done)
  • Also provide additional reference citations from reliable, third party sources in the form of links to online newspaper articles and reviews, when they provide useful content. ( Done)
  • Add, retrospectively, the Retrieved on (date) tag to all notes and references containing external links. ( Done)
  • Include, where possible, references to Irvine's sources for his choice of songs and tunes, such as his songbook (Aiming for the Heart), Sam Henry's Songs of the People, the Planxty songbook and the sources he mentioned in the sleeve notes of all his recordings. ( Done)
  • Provide details on personnel and tracks for all Irvine's major recordings, except those (such as the Planxty albums) for which such details are already provided in their respective WP articles. ( Done)
  • Add wikilinks to other, relevant WP articles. ( Done)
  • Left a message in a new section of the article's Talk page, here, about the pronunciation of 'Irvine' and inviting responses to the idea of adding (or not) the same ref tag as currently found in the WP article about the town of Irvine, North Ayrshire:
"Irvine (pronounced /ˈɜːrv[invalid input: 'i-']n/ IR-vin; Scots: Irvin, Scottish Gaelic: Irbhinn)". ( In progress)
  • Add a collapsible Table 1 - Chronology of Andy Irvine's album recordings ( Done)
  • Add a collapsible Table 2 - The songs and tunes of Andy Irvine ( Done)
  • Add a new section, Summary of recordings, and nest the previous two tables under it. ( Done)
  • Ask Chris Gualtieri for an independent assessment of the quality of the article. Chris upgraded it from 'Start class' to 'C'.
    [26 December, 2013 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Ask Alison for assistance in providing photos for the article; no reply. [27 December, 2013 (UTC).] ( Done)
  • Add many reference citations, particularly those difficult ones about Irvine's membership of the IWW and evidence of the claim that he donated part of his fee to the Shell-to-Sea campaign. Since 22 July 2013, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 110. [01:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • De-italicize all track names and set them between double quotations marks (e.g. "Track Name"), as per MOS:QUOTETITLE.
    [29-30 December 2013 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Update the LAPD sub-section, by modifying the set list of their inaugural gig into a more compact list, like the text I contributed to the Planxty article today. [2 January 2014 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Add a few more reference citations. Since 22 July 2013, I have raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 115. [3 January, 2014 (UTC).] ( Done)
  • Ask Chris Gualtieri for another independent assessment of the quality of the article, given the updates I applied since his last review. Chris upgraded it from 'C-class' to 'B' on 3 January, 2014 (UTC). ( Done)
  • Expand Planxty ("The Third Coming") section. [13-21 February, 2014 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Add a Filmography section. [25 February, 2014 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Add a Bibliography section, using the standard Wikipedia templates for book citations.
    [26 February, 2014 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Change all occurrences of quotation boxes to use the quotation symbol: from {{quotation|...}} to {{cquote|...}}.
    [23 May, 2014 (UTC)]. ( Done)
  • Add a few more reference citations since 3 January 2014. In total, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 123 since 22 July 2013. [20 November, 2014 (UTC).] ( Done)
  • Create new articles for the following albums:
  • Create a new article for Mozaik, to support new articles for their albums:
    [04:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)] ( Done)
  • Move text from the present article into the respective article for each album. ( Done)
  • Remove (for copyright reasons) all previously inserted poem-style quote boxes for the lyrics of the following songs:
    • "Rainy Sundays" [14:56, 14 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Băneasă's Green Glade" [15:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "O'Donoghue's" [16:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "General Monroe" [17:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Thousands Are Sailing" [12:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Carrowclare" [16:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Autumn Gold" [17:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "West Coast of Clare" [19:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Bonny Woodhall" [20:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "The Blacksmith" [11:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "A Prince Among Men" [12:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "You Rambling Boys of Pleasure"‎ [16:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Raoul Wallenberg" [17:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "The Wind Blows Over The Danube" [10:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Douglas Mawson" [12:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "The Spirit of Mother Jones" [12:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Never Tire of the Road" [14:26, 22 March 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "My Heart's Tonight in Ireland" [16:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Down By Greer's Grove" [16:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Braes of Moneymore" [18:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
    • "Her Mantle So Green" [19:44, 29 April 2015 (UTC)] (eraser Undone)
  • Add a few more reference citations since 20 November 2014. In total, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 132 since 22 July 2013. [20 April 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    I have also relied on Irvine's official website for 14 (10.61%) of the current 132 citations, when no other source was available. [22 April 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Expand, into three sections, the previous section about the first incarnation of Planxty, to add a summary overview of all the tracks Irvine contributed to the first three albums: [3 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Planxty – Planxty ("the black album") ( Done)
    • Planxty – The Well Below the Valley ( Done)
    • Planxty – Cold Blow and the Rainy Night ( Done)
  • Remove (for copyright reasons) all previously inserted poem-style quote boxes for the lyrics of the following songs:
    • "West Coast of Clare" (eraser Undone)
    • "As I Roved Out" (eraser Undone)
    • "The Green Fields of Canada" [22:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC+1)] (eraser Undone)
  • Add a few more reference citations since 20 April 2015. In total, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 137 since 22 July 2013. [3 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    I have also relied on Irvine's official website for 14 (10.22%) of the current 137 citations, when no other source was available. [3 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Add three new sections about the second incarnation of Planxty, to add a summary overview of all the tracks Irvine contributed to the last three albums: [5 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Planxty – After The Break ( Done)
    • Planxty – The Woman I Loved So Well ( Done)
    • Planxty – Words & Music ( Done)
  • Remove (for copyright reasons) all previously inserted poem-style quote boxes for the lyrics of the following songs:
    • "You Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (eraser Undone)
    • "Kellswater" (eraser Undone)
    • "Aragon Mill" [21:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC+1)] (eraser Undone)
  • Expand the three sections on: 1. Sweeney's Men (with details on their recordings & a summary overview of the tracks Irvine contributed to their first album); 2. Irvine's Move to Dublin and transition from acting to folk music; and 3. Woody Guthrie influences (with details on Irvine's correspondence with Guthrie via Sid Gleason). Also add an 'External link' to his Andrew Irvine filmography page at the BFI's website. Also re-locate the section on Playing style (down to '1989', the year 'The Irish Bouzouki' tutor was published). Also rename several section headers, to make them more meaningful. [6 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Remove (for copyright reasons) the previously inserted poem-style quote box in the 'Sweeney's Men' section, for the lyrics of the following song:
    • "Willy of Winsbury" [19:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC+1)] (eraser Undone)
  • Add a new level-4 section entitled Classical guitar under the new level-3 section Musical influences, and re-located there the paragraph about Irvine learning classical guitar with Bream, ahead of the existing, renamed section on Woody Guthrie, under which is nested the renamed Tribute song: "Never Tire of the Road". [8 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Add a new level-4 section for the album The Gathering, with ref tags. [11 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Add a few more reference citations since 3 May 2015. In total, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 150 since 22 July 2013. [11 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    I have also relied on Irvine's official website for 14 (9.33%) of the current 150 citations, when no other source was available. [11 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Expand the Infobox as follows: [12 May 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Add 'English' and 'Scottish' to the existing list of Irvine's folk music styles in the Genre = tag.
    • Apply the {{Flatlist}} template to the Genre = and Instrument = tags.
  • Apply detailed textual updates (all with ref tags to meaningful reference citations) on the following topics: [13 May-21 June 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Irvine's acting career in England and Ireland ( Done)
    • Woody Guthrie ( Done)
    • Sweeney's Men ( Done)
    • Discovering Eastern Europe and Bulgarian folk music ( Done)
    • Christy Moore & Prosperous ( Done)
    • Planxty ( Done)
    • Bibliography ( Done)
  • Add new sections: [13 May-21 June 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Musical comedy songs ( Done)
    • Selected early acting performances ( Done)
  • Develop the lead section [13 May-21 June 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
  • Improve formatting: [13 May-21 June 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    • Streamlined the Infobox ( Done)
    • Replaced all cquote templates by quote box templates with ref tags ( Done)
    • Updated all ref tags for magazines with: 1) the title of articles and 2) the names of their authors ( Done)
    • Added the TOClimit|3 template, to reduce the size of the TOC ( Done)
    • Renamed all the lvl3 section headings in Music Career, to indicate the major projects in each decade ( Done)
  • Add a few more reference citations since 12 May, 2015. In total, I have now raised the number of reference citations from 7 to 164 since 22 July 2013. [21 June, 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)
    I have also relied on Irvine's official website for 18 (10.98%) of the current 164 citations, when no other source was available. [21 June 2015 (UTC+1)] ( Done)

To Do List[edit]

  • Add a summary overview of the songs Irvine contributed to Patrick Street albums (as I have already done in the sections entitled Patrick Street – All in Good Time and Patrick Street – Cornberboys), into the following sections:
    • Patrick Street  Done
    • No. 2 Patrick Street  Done
    • Irish Times  Done
    • Made in Cork  Done
    • Live from Patrick Street  Done
    • Street Life  Done
    • On the Fly  Done
  • Remove (for copyright reasons) the previously inserted poem-style quote boxes for one song in each section about the following albums:
    • Patrick Street: "Patrick Street" ( Cancelled)
    • No. 2 Patrick Street: "Tom Joad" ( Cancelled)
    • Irish Times: "Brackagh Hill" ( Cancelled)
    • Cornerboys: "Down By Greer's Grove" (eraser Undone)
    • Made in Cork: "Her Mantle so Green" (eraser Undone)
    • Live from Patrick Street: "Braes of Moneymore" (eraser Undone)
    • Street Life: "Green Grows the Laurel" ( Cancelled)
    • On the Fly: "Sergeant Small" ( Cancelled)
  • Create an article about Declan Masterson, as discussed with Rhododendrites. The purpose of this article is to enable me to wikilink to it from the articles: 1. on Irvine and 2. on some of Irvine's albums, where Masterson is mentioned. And also, of course, from any other articles, such as Riverdance, etc.  Done
  • Complete the summary description of each track in the Overview section of the article on Abocurragh.
  • Ask someone to upload photos into Commons.
  • Submit the article for GA Review.