Template talk:Infobox micronation

Use this template?

I've made use of this template in Lovely (micronation) to demo it out. The template has been copied about to many micronation articles, so this is an attempt to unify them to one place. Comments? --Billpg 22:49, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

It didn't work as expected with legacy browsers. This caused some troubles on Sealand with the similar Template:Sealand table(edit talk links history), where I was finally able to fix it by adding width="300" align="right". Also added here: Omniplex  05:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Micronation statement

In common with the real-country template, I've added a space for footnotes. For Lovely, I've moved the statement that it doesn't claim land into the footnotes. The note that this entity is a micronation may as well go there. I think the fullName looks a lot better in big letters, in common with all the other micronation and real-nation infoboxes. --Billpg 00:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Here's a showcase of different designs...

• Fixed footnote. [1]
• Fixed data value. [2]
• Table heading. [3]

I'm thinking that the "Fixed data value" is best, but make that value unfixed. Possible values could include "Current micronation" or "Historic micronation" (eg Republic of Rose Island which no longer exists). What does everyone think? --Billpg 01:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

which infobox guideline exactly? main article mention is not enough, a box must not mislead the reader if he doesn't read the article. -- User:Kolokol 20:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC) copied from edit summary.

See Wikipedia:Infobox templates under "Design and usage".

"3. The top line should be reasonably bold, and contain the full (official) name of the item. This does not need to match the article's Wikipedia title. It should not contain a link. Avoid {{{PAGENAME}}} as pages may be moved for disambiguation."

I'm quite happy to mention "Micronation" in the infobox, but only if the information is in its place. Sticking it right up top like that's the only thing that matters is not that place. --Billpg 22:56, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Documentation

The fields in the documentation list don't match the actual fields. For example, the documentation has "Headofstate" and "HeadofGovenment", while the template itself has "Leadership".   Will Beback  talk  06:06, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Problems

I added this template to the Republic of Wallace article. That article may or may not last more than a few days, but I thought I would mention a couple of problems I had with the template.

1. The template had a stray char in it, which I removed. This was causing a display problem when neither flagImage nor secondImage was supplied.
2. The doc for the location' parameter says, "Location. Use {{coor dms}} if applicable". {{coor}} says, "To add coordinates to articles, use {{coord}}." The template as it stands is apparently not compatible with {{coord}}.

Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Foundation and disband

We should have date of disbandment of nations, as most of them are non existent now, and we don't have option to add that in infobox. Can someone do that? --WhiteWriter ^speaks 21:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Needs update

As best I can tell, the deprecated template "location" is to blame for the problems with Location. It should be replaced with its successor, "coord", as well as replacing "Image:" with "File:".--Auric (talk) 13:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposals

Discussion moved here from Template talk:Infobox micronation/sandbox --Ahecht (TALK
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Thank you Ahecht for the draft version. I think flag and coat of arms parameters are needed. They are quite essential to the topic, as a rule pose no WP:NFC problems, and I don't think having them legitimizes the topics of these articles beyond what's due. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Finnusertop The result of the RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 191#RfC: micronation infoboxes was that Consensus is against generally including the flag, coat of arms, and other purported symbols of the micronation. Having a dedicated parameter invites general usage. For those cases where there is consensus to add them to a specific article and there are enough reliable sources backing it up, they can be put into the generic "image" parameters. --Ahecht (TALK
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@Finnusertop I modified the template slightly so that |image= and |image2= are separate from |image_map= and |image_map2= copied over from {{infobox country}}, so you can do something like |image={{infobox country/imagetable |image1a = [[File:Flag of foo1|125px]]| image1b = [[File:Flag of foo2|125px]]| caption1 = Flag| image2 = [[File:Seal of foo|85px]] | caption2 = Coat of arms}} in those special cases. For example:

Principality of Sealand Unrecognized micronation Flag Coat of arms Area claimed Offshore platform off the coast of England Type [type determined by page consensus] Claimed by Paddy Roy Bates, Michael Bates Dates claimed 1967 to present

However, I don't think making it any less manual is in the spirit of the RfC. --Ahecht (TALK
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