Template talk:Cite Schaff-Herzog

Discussion on the page move and revert in August 2012‎[edit]

Discussion on the page move and revert in August 2012‎

Now archived in User talk:Michael_Hardy/Archive7#Move of Template:Cite Schaff-Herzog to Template:Cite Schaff–Herzog

You edited and then moved moved Template:Cite Schaff-Herzog to Template:Cite Schaff–Herzog at 02:19, 10 August 2012,. Before you made the move you made edits to Template:Cite Schaff-Herzog/doc (at 02:18, 10 August 2012‎) When you checked the results of you move did you not wonder where the documentation and the sandboxes had gone?

It's a gotcher trap into which I have fallen in the past. As you did not move all the sub-pages (its requires you to tick a box on parent move page) those sub-pages were not moved and because the template {{Documentation}} -- which is embedded in Template:Cite Schaff–Herzog -- looks from sub-pages below the named template it did not find them.

Also because you changed the name of the categories, but did no move their contents, the template currently places article names into red categories within the articles and not into hidden categories that the contents of the categories create (see Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the Schaff-Herzog and its sub categories.

I have not "fixed" the move simply to allow you to see what has happened. If you wish I will fix the problem by reverting the move and making it again with the appropriate tick; and a cut and past move of the content of the categories (with the deletion of the old ones). Either way please let me know whether you wish me to fix the move and the category contents or if you will do so. -- PBS (talk) 11:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pondering on it further I am not as all sure that the move is wise. The template name does not appear in article space and in practice it is inconvenient for an editor without the an ndash key on his or her keyboard to enter the character, so while I have no problems with the content of that is displayed on the article page having an ndash in it, I do not see why the {{Cite Schaff-Herzog}} its sub-pages or the hidden categories should as they are not in article space and are not covered by the WP:MOS and its inclusion is inconvenient for the editor. -- PBS (talk) 12:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I missed the problem of subpages. I could see having a hyphen in the name of the template, but certainly things that appear in articles should have an en-dash. If the name of the template has a hyphen, then the name with the en-dash should redirect to it. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK I have reverted the move (that leaves an en-dash redirect). I have altered the document page to show that the categories use a hyphen rather than an en-dash and I am going to change that in the template I have left all that displays in article space as en-dash. -- PBS (talk) 21:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

-- PBS (talk) 12:14, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]