Template:Did you know nominations/French submarine Perle (1935)

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The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

French submarine Perle (1935)[edit]

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sister ship Diamant, date unknown

... that the French submarine Perle (sister ship pictured) was sunk by Allied aircraft after being mistaken for a Nazi u-boat? Source: http://www.navypedia.org/ships/france/fr_ss_saphir.htm

Reviewed: William C. F. Robinson

Created by L293D (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 25 October 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @L293D: There are a couple sentences that look copy-pasted from [1]. Several source inconsistencies (navypedia mentioned Jan 1931 laid down, uboat.net mentioned Jul 1931). I'm also concerned that the article looks generic for Saphir-class submarines instead of Perle, and a "Service history" section would probably help much. There are also statements I can't quite find in the sources cited inline:
* The Sulzer manufacturer
* Source mentions a beam of 7.2, not 7.1
* Not sure where pretty much the entire second paragraph of the Design section is from, can you elaborate?
Juxlos (talk) 12:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Juxlos: Thanks for the review. I've fixed the copy-paste problem, removed the Sulzer manufacturer, fixed the beam size, and changed the laid down date to 1931. The second paragraph is a generic para from Saphir-class submarine as is the first para. I agree that a "Service history" section would be nice, but unfortunately I can't find much in the sources I have access to. I could try and stretch the information I have and create a Service history section, but it would mostly amount to moving the info from the lead down. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:56, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@L293D: Maybe get some details about its last trip? I think one of the sources mentioned several trips it took and the one where it sank. Juxlos (talk) 12:58, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Juxlos: done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:09, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Nice! The article looks significantly better now. Juxlos (talk) 14:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@L293D: You will need to address the maintenance tags in the article before it can be promoted. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: I've added one reference and removed the other badly-sourced paragraph. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Restoring tick now that the issues have been fixed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)