Template:Did you know nominations/Bibi Bourelly
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The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 12:54, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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Bibi Bourelly[edit]
- ... that Bibi Bourelly, the writer for Rihanna's Bitch Better Have My Money, is the daughter of guitarist Jean-Paul Bourelly?
Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 00:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC).
I have concerns about using a Forbes article as a main source for a BLP. The Forbes article is written by a "contributor", not a staff, and may not be sufficiently reliable. As a side note, I would recommend linking this article from the Bitch Better Have My Money article. sstflyer 16:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- I regard all interviews as inherently reliable; information from interviews can be sourced not to the paper, but to the artist.--Launchballer 18:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- That is an unusual view Lbr. Many people exaggerate or underplay their contribution. Wikipedia is meant to be an objective view and interviews are usually a subjective view. Victuallers (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I have to agree with the concerns expressed by SSTflyer and Victuallers, Launchballer. The disclaimer on the Forbes article reading "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own." seems to indicate that neither editorial control nor fact-checking — which are what evaluation of whether sources are reliable should be based on — were applied to this interview. Additionally, per WP:N, sources used to establish notability should be both secondary sources and independent of the subject of the article... which an interview, by your own admission, Launchballer, is not. Certainly my experience assisting new editors with AfC submissions has been that interviews do not contribute towards notability. As for using an interview as a source for facts in a Wikipedia article, my view is that whether such sources are acceptable depends on the fact being cited. Whether the interview subject is married, and if so their spouse's name, are usually all right to cite solely to an interview with the subject. (An exception would be if, for example, other sources indicate the named 'spouse' contests the claim.) Most other facts about a person should be cited to a secondary source whenever possible, however, as people do commonly claim incorrect birth years (though they can usually be relied upon to supply the correct month and year), and either inflate or downplay their own achievements, as Victuallers pointed out above. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 14:37, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- That is an unusual view Lbr. Many people exaggerate or underplay their contribution. Wikipedia is meant to be an objective view and interviews are usually a subjective view. Victuallers (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I regard all interviews as inherently reliable; information from interviews can be sourced not to the paper, but to the artist.--Launchballer 18:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Full review needed, with an eye to the sourcing. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:23, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts have inline citations and are sourced as reliably as this type of article usually is, as far as I can see. I added two extra references to the article, one for her father being a guitarist, and one for the uncited final paragraph. The article is neutral and seems to be free of copyvios. Interestingly, the source I found for the final paragraph made an error itself, assuming incorrectly that it was Bourelly's father who was head of the art department at the "House of World Culture" when in fact it was her mother. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
