Template:Did you know nominations/A719 road

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

A719 road[edit]

5x expanded by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC).

  • Ritchie, there's no point at all in doing this unless the hook is something like
ALT2 ... that a Trump resort is directly linked to Moscow?
(I've come to believe that hooks should generally link only the primary article unless there's a really good reason to link other stuff as well, given that the other links can be found in the primary article.) We need to be careful about sourcing, though. I don't think it's SYNTH to cite two sources, one saying that the road passes the Trump Turnberry, and another saying it passes through Moscow, but it would be better if a single source recites both. Since you're British figuring that out can be your job. EEng 19:08, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I was impressed I could make a reasonable start on this article; I'm pretty ambivalent about what hook goes on the main page as long as there's a Trump - Moscow link in there somewhere that'll drag readers in. (As far as a source goes, while you have to zoom in and out, Google Maps marks the Trump Turnberry Hotel and the village of Moscow as being on the A719; and all the source needs to do is verify the places exist) However, for those who get uneasy about cheap political gags, may I offer you:
ALT3:... that on part of the A719 road, cars seem to roll uphill? (Source: "Turn off the engine on the Electric Brae in Ayrshire and your car will magically roll uphill. That’s the effect of the mysterious attraction on the A719 between Drumshrang and Knoweside." The Scotsman) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I agree strongly with EEng about the right approach to this, and I believe that there will be no justification for crying BLP so long as we make proper use of blue links. Consequently, I propose:
ALT4: ... that a Trump resort is directly linked to Moscow?
ALT4 is identical to ALT2 but with two blue links added. By the way, I am only proposing a hook, because I have done nothing to review the page for DYK criteria, but I have all the best hooks. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I wouldn't think a fish would have much truck with hooks. But I agree with your reasoning and have struck A2. EEng 20:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Drive-by comment—I think ALT4 is the most "hooky" option, and the linking makes it clear which Moscow is being referred to. Catrìona (talk) 23:48, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I've added explicit cites supporting the hook. EEng 03:13, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Although the review leaves the door open to ALT0, I think there is a very clear consensus for ALT4. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
The nominator himself has stricken (?) ALT0. EEng 19:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I recommend the original hook or ALT4. Catrìona (talk) 00:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

  • I suppose if I suggested running this on Election Day in the US that wouldn't go over so well. Pointing out again that A0 was stricken by the nominator. EEng 03:52, 2 November 2018 (UTC)