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July 6, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed
February 15, 2011	Featured article candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 2, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in Serbian tradition, a zmajevit was a man whose spirit could leave his body while he was asleep, and fly skywards to fight against the demon ala that led hail clouds over fields to destroy crops?

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GA[edit]

I strongly recommend that this be nominated for GA. Given the subject I find it quite excellent. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 20:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Zduhać/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, reading through now. I will jot some notes as I go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They were believed to have been brought by supernatural forces, which had been represented in various ways - I don't get "which had been represented in various ways" here.

eastern Herzegovina, part of Bosnia, and Sandžak - do you mean eastern Herzegovina is in part of Bosnia, or are they two different localities? thanks for clearing it up.

Thanks for reviewing the article.

In folk beliefs, adverse weather could be brought by various supernatural forces, such as God, angels, saints, the Devil, an ala, mentioned in the sentences that immediately follow. Actually, that part "which had been represented in various ways" can be removed without any damage.
They are two different localities. Herzegovina and Bosnia are two separate regions. Zduhać is recorded in the folklore of Serbs of only a part of Bosnia, while it is absent from the folklore in other areas of the region. My sources don't specify which part is that, though it could be generally concluded that it is eastern Bosnia. Vladimir (talk) 16:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about delay - just make sure all foreign words not used in English are in italics. Otherwise looking good. Are there any folklore drawings or illustrations?

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Thank you, Casliber! As for the folklore illustrations, I'm not aware of any related to this subject. I've added several images, though, which may have some relevance. Is it any better? Vladimir (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, they help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-FAC workup[edit]

Okay, I forgot I reviewed this for GA, so I might not pick up as many copyediting issues as a new person. One thing is that words that are not used in English are generally italicized, so gradobranitelj, for example, should be italicised. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I thought one of the storm/cyclone people might be interested to read over it - I'll ping them. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Casliber, for your interest :) As for italicising, I didn't use it for the terms that denote the very subject of the article, those with bold face in the introduction. It seems to me that if I did it, there would be too many italicised words. Could that be an acceptable reason?

I must say, I did think that applying the rule strictly means there is quite alot of italics in htis article. I'll ask Tony1 for an opinion on this one. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, what do you think about the way I added the N.B. in the "Bringers of bad weather" section? Vladimir (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, unusual. We'd sometimes put things like those in footnotes, but I am not sure where it'd be a footnote of. Why not have it simply as a line in the text? Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because the n.b. is about the general perception of the aždaja, in which it is not strictly a bringer of bad weather. Putting that in the main text might be a distraction from the subject (bringers of bad weather). I'll put it in the new section "Notes". Since aždaja is a prominent mythological character in Serbian tradition, I thought it might be a good idea to say some more about it, apart from that local notion of aždaja from Syrmia. Though it's not quite essential for the subject... Vladimir (talk) 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let me think about it. Not sure yet. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures not related[edit]

I think the pictures are not really related to Zduhać and therefore should be replaced (Zduhac picture?).--Rochelimit (talk) 16:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Each picture in the article is in a way related to the subject - see the captions. One of them is a photo of a man regarded as a zduhać. I'm not aware of any free picture having "zduhać" in its title. Vladimir (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Bore"?[edit]

One of the animal forms mentioned is a "bore". This animal isn't on English Wikipedia or Wiktionary, and I've never heard of it. Is it a typo for boar? 2601:441:467F:9E00:BDAE:99E0:5706:1CC (talk) 21:29, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]